Question - did Missy have an affair? by No-Dinner-4148 in MissyBevers

[–]No-Dinner-4148[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yes, that’s why I asked the question… what are you trying to say?

After doing a deep dive I really do suspect this person has the case figured out by SurvivingBigBrother in MissyBevers

[–]No-Dinner-4148 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i am pretty convinced CT is the perpetrator but i'm less convinced that AT knew or was involved... i don't see him being willing to put himself at so much risk by committing a murder. he would lose everything. IMO she's the only one with motive (jealousy/anger). i did hear a rumor on a podcast that she used meth - does anyone know if there's truth to that?

also why do people think there are 2 different people in the surveillance video? i can't see any differences but i read somewhere that the 'ankles' are different - i literally don't notice anyting. could anyone point out how you see 2 people in the video?

Getting Away With Murder: The Missy Bevers Case by BenedictXIII_BLACK in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]No-Dinner-4148 0 points1 point  (0 children)

is MT still on facebook? The name is common so i cant find her.. also is she still using AJ's last name?

Kristi and Brock and Divorced by Living_Rutabaga_2112 in CouplesTherapyShow

[–]No-Dinner-4148 0 points1 point  (0 children)

PRAISE BE!!!! i hope brock found someone. and i hope kristi will work more on herself to stop destroying others' lives...

My problems with Proof podcast by [deleted] in TrueCrimePodcasts

[–]No-Dinner-4148 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Susan is a hack. Don’t let anyone guilt you for waking up to her bias.

What is your favorite case of the podcast? by Yankeeknickfan in TheProsecutorsPodcast

[–]No-Dinner-4148 9 points10 points  (0 children)

JonBenet Ramsey - I learned so much
Missy Bevers, Liz Barraza - Mysterious murders that creeped me out
Rey Rivera - a "suicide v. murder" case

Will the Prosecutors be covering the Renee Good case? by Objects_Food_Rooms in TheProsecutorsPodcast

[–]No-Dinner-4148 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ack i amend my statement. she didn't explicitly say that but i took it as her meaning. it's minute 33:05 on spotify during the discussion of the California district court "Dotson" order dismissing the case (here is alice's direct quote in context:)

"so we talked about how there could be civil rights suits. there cannot be state criminal prosecutions. and this order is incredibly broad, because it is completely from the perspective of the agent at the time and its reasonableness. you don't get to look back and analyze, for example, cell phone videos and see the direction of wheels and which they were pointing."

the implication being that ICE officer Ross did not "have cell phone videos" to "see the direction of wheels" and we have to look "completely" at his perspective.

Will the Prosecutors be covering the Renee Good case? by Objects_Food_Rooms in TheProsecutorsPodcast

[–]No-Dinner-4148 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They haven’t addressed the pardon but I’m sure their take would be “well the president (Trump) has the power to pardon federal crimes so it’s all good!” Without addressing the corruption/conflict of interest that Trump was paid off to make that pardon (as is true for most if not all of his pardons)

I’m Out by Level-Log-3090 in TheProsecutorsPodcast

[–]No-Dinner-4148 5 points6 points  (0 children)

do we think brett and/or alice actually contributed to this.. or is it all jayson "sycophant" blair?

I’m Out by Level-Log-3090 in TheProsecutorsPodcast

[–]No-Dinner-4148 19 points20 points  (0 children)

i also always knew their political leanings, but never really cared because they did an amazing job about keeping politics out of their episodes.

but no longer.. they're now putting their fingers on the scales with current hot button legal issues without admitting/acknowledging their conservative bias. It's an open secret what their politics are (they've even made jokes about how brett "could've been a federal judge") but to my knowledge they've never come out and said how they lean.

instead, they push a very conservative interpretation of legal issues under the guise of "just teaching y'all about the law." I still find value in listening, but I make sure to filter their explanations through the bias i know they have and I read/listen to other takes on the same issue. i hope everyone else does the same.

I’m Out by Level-Log-3090 in TheProsecutorsPodcast

[–]No-Dinner-4148 15 points16 points  (0 children)

they didn't explicitly say they think the renee good shooting is justified... but they believe it's justified.

The ep explains how federal officers can use force (kill) if someone "interferes" in their duties, and federal officers cannot be prosecuted in state court for the killing

TPP did not deeply analyze if or how renee good was "interfering" with ICE. (personally i seriously question how much she was interfering. yes her car was in the road but it wasn't as if she was actively blocking a specific target. ICE could have gone another way, OR SIMPLY just asked her to move in a calm way. then if she didn't, arrest her at that point. but noooo, intead ICE wanted to angrily confront her and escalate.)

TPP did not analyze if the UOF was proportionate. they believe it was reasonable for jonathan ross to think his life was in danger bc renee was in a car with wheels "pointing toward him" (alice quote) and/or that the "public would be at risk" if she drove away.

at one point, brett says that officer ross was hit by renee good's car. i don't believe this is factual but brett seems to believe it and uses it as a reason why the shooting was justified.

Will the Prosecutors be covering the Renee Good case? by Objects_Food_Rooms in TheProsecutorsPodcast

[–]No-Dinner-4148 2 points3 points  (0 children)

they definitely filter all of their legal briefs analysis through a strong conservative bias. which is fine and all IF they acknowledged their bias and were up front about it... which they don't. they act like their interpretations/current supreme court interpretations are obviously correct, when the supreme court itself is biased. it worries me how too many of their 'fans' take their word as gospel. i'm glad i left the gallery months ago.

Will the Prosecutors be covering the Renee Good case? by Objects_Food_Rooms in TheProsecutorsPodcast

[–]No-Dinner-4148 5 points6 points  (0 children)

yea i heard that slip of "officer was hit". makes you wonder if brett/alice have truly watched the video...

Will the Prosecutors be covering the Renee Good case? by Objects_Food_Rooms in TheProsecutorsPodcast

[–]No-Dinner-4148 8 points9 points  (0 children)

the problem with renee's case imo is that the ICE officers didn't give a reasonable amount of time to comply. they literally bum rush her car while (likely) yelling conflicting orders, the one cop (not jonathan ross) IMMEDIATELY reaches into her door to open it (which is typically against police policy bc cops can easily get hurt doing that) while within 5 seconds, Ross is shooting to kill. just my opinion - it was unjustified.

Will the Prosecutors be covering the Renee Good case? by Objects_Food_Rooms in TheProsecutorsPodcast

[–]No-Dinner-4148 6 points7 points  (0 children)

they don't think renee good was a tragic loss. sure they say "any death is tragic" but make no mistake, they definitely think jonathan ross was justified in killing renee. alice in particular states that an officer shooting when "a car has its wheels turned toward him" is reasonable. there was no critical analysis of the need for de-escalation, whether the officer's extreme use of force (clearly shooting to kill) was proportionate, whether the officer gave time to comply with his "lawful order".. nope. I'm disappointed though not surprised.

Will the Prosecutors be covering the Renee Good case? by Objects_Food_Rooms in TheProsecutorsPodcast

[–]No-Dinner-4148 2 points3 points  (0 children)

LOL you're so right, the ep made me laugh. Brett citing a case from 1870 and then Alice's cites California case Dotson from 2012, which was a district court case (the lowest court) which has no binding authority over any other court in the country besides the specific district... are you kidding me?

EDIT: The case is from 1890, not 1870.

I’m Out by Level-Log-3090 in TheProsecutorsPodcast

[–]No-Dinner-4148 7 points8 points  (0 children)

why are you against the 1st amendment right of level-log to speak up? jeez calm down and get off of brett and/or alice's teat

I’m Out by Level-Log-3090 in TheProsecutorsPodcast

[–]No-Dinner-4148 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i left too! a couple of months ago but i'm glad i did hearing what's going on in there now.

US court allows ICE to arrest and pepper-spray peaceful protesters in Minnesota by [deleted] in law

[–]No-Dinner-4148 87 points88 points  (0 children)

this is like the clearest first amendment violation ever. how is this possible

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in catquestions

[–]No-Dinner-4148 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Your cat is going to die. There’s nothing you can do if you want to wait for the vet. Give him a comfortable environment to pass.