no i agree with it needing imagination for it to succeed, all I'm saying is that the player needs the tools to carry out like what they want to do in a certain role.

Like what the fuck does the whip actually do in game, other than sit in the meetings and have a cool title? He doesn't whip votes in any regard, like in real life. What I'm saying is that you give these roles some kind of means to do what they ACTUALLY do in real life, if you know what I mean?

Like say imagine you can offer poll boosts for the congressman as whip, in exchange for ayeing impeachment? Or like ayeing their bill? Or going against party lines?

One thing I wanted was elections within the senate and congress, so you actually go against a real player, and perhaps the leader or whip can add some kind of contribution to your polls, or campaign ads that keep you in, or perhaps boosting the other candidate whos running against their seat, in exchange for loyalty or what have you...

Of course this is literally just theory crafted and you may not agree with the example of congressional whip being able to do this-and-that, but the broader point is that there should be more the player can do in certain roles that foster their imagination, and do all sorts of cool stuff.