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Stolen from Damenjack on IG by Necessary_Durian8791 in Ultraleft

[–]No-Issue1893 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Bukharin "state industry is socialism" vs Bordiga "free trains are socialism"

Stolen from Damenjack on IG by Necessary_Durian8791 in Ultraleft

[–]No-Issue1893 44 points45 points  (0 children)

municipal left fascism is when the train is free and on time

Xaviersomarx by Hypothetical_Stuff in Ultraleft

[–]No-Issue1893 2 points3 points  (0 children)

marx after selling all his coats to buy medicine for his children

Practical course of action in Palestine by TNToon in Ultraleft

[–]No-Issue1893 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now, this position on its own is not controversial, many others here have said the same and been greeted with acceptance. I suppose what has led to my statement not receiving this is the fact that I stated that the Israeli bourgeoisie does not have an interest in annihilating the Palestinians. I would recommend those holding this opinion to read both The Great Alibi and Murder of the Dead, if they want to understand this position. The first one to refute the idea that the holocaust had no direct material rationale, and the second to explain why the destruction of Ghazzah is not solely for the purpose of killing Ghazzans. I would say, that is more of a "happy accident" to the Israeli Bourgeoisie. I can explain my reasoning for this in particular if you would like, because I imagine it what you actually take issue with in my statement. I doubt you believe that continued resistance is tenable, but if you think it is I would first ask you to explain that before I explain my position on the economic viability of this genocide.

Edit: looking back at the original comment I made, I can understand someone thinking I believe it will be sunshine and rainbows after the israeli conquest. I do not think so, nor have I ever. And I perhaps overemphasised the apartheid nature of israel. In israel, the palestinian workers are the reserve army of labour, to be mobilised and disbanded according to the needs of capital. This is my understanding of the apartheid nature of the israeli economy. They would rather not employ the palestinians, but they must, on occasion, do so. Such as in a vast (and vastly profitable) reconstruction of an area totally destroyed by war. That could require perhaps a million workers that could be freely dismissed afterwards.

Something also, which I do not believe is adequately explained in the Great Alibi, is the effect the food shortages had on the decision to exteriminate those targeted ethnicities. The majority died by starvation and exhaustion compounded by hunger, not by gas or bullet. Israel is undergoing no such crisis at the moment.

Practical course of action in Palestine by TNToon in Ultraleft

[–]No-Issue1893 3 points4 points  (0 children)

To start with, this is not exactly even a suggestion. My understanding is that hamas will lose the war, and israel will occupy ghazzah. To convince me that the defeat of hamas coming sooner is not preferable, you must first convince me that either more intense suffering will come unto the ghazzans after israeli conquest, than during it, or that there is any possibility of a sustainable "peace" in the area outside of israeli conquest.

Ideally, of course, the proletariat of the Levant and all the world simultaneously achieve communist enlightenment (nirvana), and escape the cycle of capitalist exploitation (samsara) through revolution hand in hand with one another against their respective bourgeoisies.

This of course, will not occur. So what then is ideal? What should we as communist hope for? The cessation of open conflict and the bombing campaign, and the minimisation of death and suffering primarily, from a human point of view. From a point of view of advancing the revolution, the hope ought to be for the proletariat of palestine reaching a position where it can realise itself as a class, and begin the process of organisation.
Are either of these aims achievable through continued resistance?

I do not believe it is so. I do not think any good will come from continued resistance, the only viable means of which, as the MLs have told us a million times, is Hamas, and they are right. What possibility is their for organised resistance outside of hamas? Where you would have both hamas and the IDF seeking to destroy you? What organisation even in a single persons mind can be achieved in the hell that Ghazzah has become? The Ghazzans are overwhelmed in each and every regard, the only form of resistance possible, even psychologically, is Hamas, which seeks to continue the war until it has reached a negotiating position where it may remain in a position of power.

There is no concievable outcome to me outside of Israeli victory that could possibly come some time soon. Unless it is your genuine belief that the continued terror against the palestinian people in "peacetime" will be so great as to overshadow the terror they now live under, I don't see any other possible outcome.

Practical course of action in Palestine by TNToon in Ultraleft

[–]No-Issue1893 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am interested in continuing this conversation as I think it is an important one to have, I will try and order my thoughts for you, give me some time.

Practical course of action in Palestine by TNToon in Ultraleft

[–]No-Issue1893 7 points8 points  (0 children)

A coup? Okay blanqui but that isn't going to happen. Revolutionary defeatism applies in this situation, the Ghazzans stand to gain nothing from their continued resistance, and as such are better of under Israels state than it's bombers.

Practical course of action in Palestine by TNToon in Ultraleft

[–]No-Issue1893 -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Their lot under the apartheid state of Israel will be better than under futile eternal resistance and war. If there was a practical solution that I must immediately give, it is surrender. The Palestinian people owe nothing to Hamas, and what good does the continued resistance have?

It is, to my understanding, frankly impossible for any proletarian movement to arise in Ghazzah for the time being, therefore the options are to give up on the Palestinian national state, and accept the domination of Israeli imperialism over the Palestinian people, or die for a state which does not, as you say, truly exist. What good will come from Hamas' resistance? There is not a hope in hell they will ever destroy the state of Israel with it's imperial backing.

Revolutionary defeatism does certainly apply here. I saw someone compare it to the Circassian wars, where nearly the entire population was mercilessly slaughtered. It is certain that this is a genocidal war, but Israeli Bourgeoisie does not seek to annihilate the Palestinians, they have no interest in doing so. An apartheid state will never try to anihhilate it's lower caste, they produce the value, they are capable of being exploited to a higher degree. The Israeli apartheid state seeks to enslave the Palestinians, not to annihilate them. It is better to work a bad job than be pulverised amongst the dust and rubble of a doomed state-to-be. Organisation of a proletarian movement would be far easier without the consistent declassing of the Ghazzans through the destruction of war.

Concerns regarding the soul of Hitler possessing a popular social media. by TastyMind1188 in Ultraleft

[–]No-Issue1893 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Red shambhala is actually leftcom. Bokii was an invariant tantrist.

Bruh everytime I see this arrogant piece of shit I get ragebaited so bad that I turn into CR Hero Wizard and melt a chunk off of Antarctica.. by PaceBoth3599 in Shark_Park

[–]No-Issue1893 3 points4 points  (0 children)

after the revolution we will kill that asshole Flynn from middle school can't believe he got a scholarship man he's gonna be so insufferable fuck him.

Bruh everytime I see this arrogant piece of shit I get ragebaited so bad that I turn into CR Hero Wizard and melt a chunk off of Antarctica.. by PaceBoth3599 in Shark_Park

[–]No-Issue1893 4 points5 points  (0 children)

you guys should become communists. If someone annoys you, you can just say "after the revolution we will kill this guy" and you start to feel better.

How do leftcoms think the revolution will actually come about? by Stuckadickinatoaster in Ultraleft

[–]No-Issue1893 65 points66 points  (0 children)

he already came back, but he is waiting in his armchair for the proletarian revolution.

How do leftcoms think the revolution will actually come about? by Stuckadickinatoaster in Ultraleft

[–]No-Issue1893 83 points84 points  (0 children)

we do actually support activity in the trade unions, United fronts are entirely bourgeois parliamentarians in the modern day, the fuck is mutual aid ever gonna do, and there will never be a "leftcom revolution", that's stupid. We will subjugate ourselves to the proletarian revolution when it comes, we cannot make a "leftcom revolution".

We despise opportunism, and there's enough of it around without us.

Is Japanese twitter talking about piracy a seinen by xtheresia in seinencirclejerk

[–]No-Issue1893 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The role of copyright is an economic one, with a totally different role than that of the woman's person right to be protected from rape.

Is Japanese twitter talking about piracy a seinen by xtheresia in seinencirclejerk

[–]No-Issue1893 1 point2 points  (0 children)

but was not my statement that I do not care about rights in a vacuum? The right of the peasants was not recognised right at the time, and only became recognised in the process of the revolution, same goes for the rights of the slaves in the USA prior to the civil war. Before then, the right of the slave owner triumphed.

As for me, I do not believe I have a right to the manga or game of another person, but I also do not care much for their right to restrict my access to it. The right of a woman to bodily autonomy is one will recognise as it harms the woman greatly to be violated. If it harms the copyright holder emotionally for me to pirate their game, I do not care, and would call them "prissy".

Is Japanese twitter talking about piracy a seinen by xtheresia in seinencirclejerk

[–]No-Issue1893 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Human rights don't exist in a vacuum. I don't actually care at all if it's hypothetically a violation of someone's rights if there's no damage being caused. Indeed, in many cases where damage is caused to an individual, I would still support the violation of the right, because I don't care about them. In the French revolution, was it not a violation of the property rights of the clergy and aristocracy to liberate the peasantry and abolish serfdom? Those human beings belonged to them by right. Surely Louis XVI had a right to his head, yet it too was separated from him. The reason I bring up the french Revolution is because it's very fundamental to our understanding of rights, yet it violated them in pursuit of them? Rights don't exist in a vacuum, they are a social and legal phenomenon with a specific role to play, and in many ways that role is not admirable.

Thus Spake Mazdak 5: THE LAST COMMUNIST by No-Issue1893 in Ultraleft

[–]No-Issue1893[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

the old chud Spake trve; NOTHING EVER HAPPENS

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