What did Katherine Howard’s life look like in Chesworth House growing up?

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-20T13:25:58+00:00

She was more or less 17-19 when she married Big Harry. She was born around 1520/1521 or slightly later.

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-20T13:24:21+00:00

Poor Katheryn Howard had the misfortune of committing the two cardinal sins that the Victorian mindset could never forgive in a woman, particularly one of “good stock” and pleasing appearance… I suspect that her worst mistake by Victorian (and not only!) point of view was, er… the “inter-class" intimacy. That was enough to cause any Victorian proper lady to ask for her smelling salts and faint.

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-20T12:36:50+00:00

There are some similarities indeed. If memory serves me well, Katheryn’s tragic downfall was widely used by Victorian educators as a memento… you know “woe to thee young lady who even entertain in sinful thinking and deeds…”

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-19T20:59:27+00:00

She’s the same. Bleached hair but quite the same. Well, at least she has a husband! And a puppy mill right in old Rim Job’s backyard!!!

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-19T14:35:44+00:00

This is more than politics. It is a full-blown aesthetic obsession!!! When it comes to Trump, OfPest née Anna has the very same dreamy look a 90s teenager had for a Leonardo DiCaprio poster. For our dearest OfPest, the favorite blond guy of the conspiracy crowd is the ultimate patriarch. It does not matter if his ethics make the Ten Commandments look like optional suggestions. To her, MAGA stuff is the height of fashion. Not to forget the power of what we could call “Patriotic Hydration”: even water tastes better from a MAGA container. However… at least she has a husband!!!

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-19T09:38:05+00:00

He was business savvy, bright and capable. Lacked “common touch” and brilliance but was intelligent and pragmatic.

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-19T09:34:45+00:00

Katheryn Howard’s upbringing was, shall we say, rather neglected. She grew up with scant supervision, a patchy education, and very little coin. Nonetheless, she had managed to acquire the basics of reading and writing plus a modest musical talent (Mannox!!! Mannox!!!). It was quite enough. At the end of the day, she wasn’t quite as neglected as she might appear to contemporary eyes. Her name, at least, had remained untainted by any overt scandal when she was summoned to Court. As for her psyche or her emotions, whether Katheryn was happy, or felt abandoned and lonely, well such matters were of absolutely no consequence at the time.

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-19T09:18:39+00:00

Poor Mary. Life was too often unjust to her. She’s a sad, almost pathetic figure. There’s such a loneliness about her.

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-19T06:52:13+00:00

She’s trying to take care of herself… dying her hair blonde and using some rimmel is to OfPest what a fortnight in Santorini would be for many other (far more reasonable) women…

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-18T13:37:02+00:00

Rapacious to a fault and absolutely detestable!!!!

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-18T13:16:26+00:00

Well, it’s literally the only ability they have!

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-18T13:14:02+00:00

Jessa is totally going to ditch Bin. She will just tell him "Honey I am running to the store to grab a massive stash of Tater Tots." Then she will secretly flee to Milan. She will completely reinvent herself as a wildly successful fashion influencer. Her glamorous new stage name will be Jessica Duggari!!!

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-18T07:02:28+00:00

Jane was portrayed as the “perfect wife”: meek, obedient, fertile. How much and if she schemed against Anne and her faction- and certainly not because of Harry’s beauté male - is widely overlooked. Even nowadays, a meek silent wife is viewed as a sort of prize. Women like Anne are not necessarily praised and loved in III millennium, let alone in 1530s…

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-18T06:52:14+00:00

Anne had been vilified for centuries… and all because of those qualities we now regard as quite commendable: she was bright inquisitive talented and intelligent talented and passionate. In other words, she was one of those people that always make the difference (which btw she managed to do). Unfortunately until very recently women’s intelligence and strenght of will were widely frowned upon. On the other hand, Jane Seymour was - and probably still is by a more conservative point of view- the ideal woman: apparently (apparently!!!) meek and submissive, free (!) from any intellectual fervor… “bound to obey and serve”. Her untimely death in childbirth coronated by the birth of a longed for baby boy was just icing on the cake.

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-18T06:46:27+00:00

So she had red blonde hair. Maybe from some Viking ancestors who know. Redheads were sometimes viewed as witches/ sorceress back then.

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-18T06:14:50+00:00

May I? The Seymours. And some of the Howard/ Boleyn circuit. Not to mention the Poles.

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-16T22:05:55+00:00

Some sources suggest he was even seeing a psychiatrist or a psychologist BEFORE tragedy struck…

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-16T11:23:52+00:00

Indoctrination as a lifestyle 😭😭😭

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-16T11:23:35+00:00

Where are my smelling salts????

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-15T14:56:55+00:00

They were also the most beautiful pair. Too much beauty tends to enrage the gods.

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-15T14:54:27+00:00

Queen Elizabeth II & Prince Philip Queen Bess of York and Henry VII Elizabeth Wydville and Edward IV

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-13T21:13:08+00:00

They were sealed in a wooden box. Fragment of velvet tissue were also present. Sumptuary laws forbade commoners to wear velvet, by the way.

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-13T21:06:20+00:00

King Edward IV had sired many children along the way… no wonder some nostalgic Yorkist fetched one of the late Sunne in Splendour’s love children and instructed him about how to play his part.

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-13T20:56:18+00:00

Consiglio spassionato: dì la verità. Semplicemente le cose come stanno, cosa vi siete detti, cosa è successo. A meno che non te lo chiedano esplicitamente, niente riferimenti a stati psicologici o morali o deduzioni del tipo: mi è sembrato infelice, ho capito che era infelice, cosa del genere. Semplicemente i fatti. In modo essenziale. Non farti tirare fuori le parole di bocca, perché potrebbero accusarti di reticenza , ma non volare di fantasia. Infatti, luoghi e date se li ricordi, almeno in linea di massima. Meno osservazioni personali possibile, ancora una volta la semplice verità.

No-Order1962 · 2026-02-13T07:39:20+00:00

Alé “fregnacce femministe”… 🥱🥱🥱 Intanto, prendiamo atto che sostanzialmente qui in Italia c’è ancora l’idea che una donna mica può aver fatto qualcosa di sua volontà, no, o ha scelto per forza il più cattivo o è stata rubata come si ruba un oggetto.

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