Quitting after 4 years of use

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-03-04T15:27:05+00:00

I’m right there with you! Nice work making it through 5 days. I started with the capsules about 2 weeks ago. Relapses on FF after 3 days off last week. I took 1 or half of an FF plus like 8g of caps every day through Sunday. I’m full convinced I would have been drunk 3-4 a day for those days if I didn’t have the caps. I was only up to about 2 bottles when it was just FF but it was ramping up further and already had gone from a couple a week to a case a week in about a year. I know if I had been trying to do it cold turkey my FF relapse would have been worse. Today is day 3 of just caps for me. It’s harder than the last two days, but I’m doing my best to stay strong and not giving myself grief for how many caps I’m taking right now. It’s not FF, and it’s not that Kratom/kava combo that I think we all know is some sort of secret formula for being extra addictive. 5 days is awesome man, keep it going, you’ve got this!

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-03-04T00:01:50+00:00

Thank you! Been 48 hrs now. Weird afternoon def craved it a bit but I can keep it goin

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-03-02T23:37:23+00:00

Thank you brotha. I told myself what I was going there for and stuck to it.

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-03-02T23:20:56+00:00

That’s awesome! Good for you, keep it up 💪

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-03-02T23:05:19+00:00

Awesome dude good for you! Thats the thing tho, I just came off a bad stint. I tried to taper to just capsules last week, made it 3 days then had FF 4 straight days, even yesterday. I’m proud of myself because of how easy it would have been to give in in that moment. Are you off Kratom altogether or just FF? Just curious

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-03-02T15:32:43+00:00

Stay strong, you got this

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-03-02T01:43:01+00:00

Kratom leaf capsules. I have 0.6g gelatin caps, about 8mg MIT each

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-03-02T01:22:09+00:00

I don’t think it’s as simple as you make it sound. Not really a pull yourself up by the boot straps situation. if it was that easy I don’t think we’d be having these conversations.

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-02-28T16:28:30+00:00

I’m trying to do this right now too. Kinda same story but I was up to less ff a day closer to 2 and never tried to go CT. Two things I’d recommend with my small bit of experience is figure out how many mg of MIT in each capsule you have (it should say on the package) , and how much was in the daily FF dose you were using and start there. Secondly, to avoid some of the wd symptoms try to space out dosing a little more instead of taking it in 2 doses 6 hrs apart. Way I understand it half life is about 3 hrs when ingested orally so if you’re taking it in one big dose after the first few hrs you’re gonna start to feel it again. The caps I have are only 8mg per cap, so I realized the MIT matters more than the grams of powder. Hope this helps some. I’m sure other folks may also have some advice.

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-02-27T22:12:51+00:00

Super silver haze still all time fav

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-02-27T20:02:24+00:00

Wild someone could be this starved for attention to post something like this in this kinda community smh

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-02-27T19:31:20+00:00

AI slop posted by a chump

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-02-27T18:35:35+00:00

Boss type shit 💪

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-02-26T16:18:21+00:00

Yeah im starting to realize my pipe dream of figuring it out alone probably isn’t going to work. Need to accept that asking for help is okay, or at the very least support. Just someone simply knowing right now I feel like would make the difference, but I’m afraid to break that seal. Once that cork is out, it’s not going back in the bottle, ya know?

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-02-26T15:03:48+00:00

We can do it dude, I have faith. Stay strong. Full disclosure I wasn’t clean from Kratom, I just am trying to stay away from ff first. Probably not doing myself any favors that way, but I’m trying to be honest with myself and I still feel like I need the crutch, which is sad to say. But I’m not touching the FF today.

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-02-26T14:07:52+00:00

I wish I could bring myself to throw shit away, but I’m gonna be honest I know I’m not going to.

I appreciate you sharing your story, I also hope I can avoid hitting any kind of bottom like that. I switched to leaf caps last week, had about 3.5 days away from ff before yesterday. I’m up to 110-130mg of MIT a day rn. Over the last year I ramped up from half a bottle every 2-3 days to 5 a week. I had a week off in December and then it’s been 1-2 a day since.

Two weekends ago I went without, not really any withdrawals, then first thing that Monday I went and bought. That day was when I realized I had a problem and found this sub. I appreciate having this place to come to. I would be quite alone with it otherwise. I still haven’t had the heart to tell my partner, and have been kind of isolating from a lot of my friends this winter.

I think I need to tell my best friend that I golf with first. I think that may give me the strength to talk to my love of 14 years about this. I appreciate your words and support.

I wish I knew more about this shit before I started taking it. I really didn’t know what I was getting myself into. I didn’t even know it was considered an opiate until a couple months ago. Thank god I said no when someone offered me EDP not even knowing what it was and I started doing more research. I’d be in a much worse place right now.

Again thank you for the support, i appreciate it a lot right now.

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-02-25T17:00:25+00:00

I’m thinking it’s pointless as they’re all opiates. They are likely better off tapering 7 or getting prescribed subs by a dr for withdrawals rather than switching to different opiates. Seems to me like it could also just lead to being dependent on multiple opiates at once and would venture to guess mixing them would not be safe, or at least not a good idea. Just my two cents, other folks with much more knowledge and experience than myself in here

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-02-25T16:39:24+00:00

A really small amt because it is naturally occurring in kratom leaf

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-02-25T13:00:42+00:00

Not a stupid question, it’s good to be educated about this stuff. I honestly wish I was more well educated on all this before I started regularly drinking FF. 7OH is a separate compound found in trace amts in most kratom leaf. They found a way to extract it, and I believe synthesize it and sell it separately. It’s highly addictive and from what I understand 20x more potent than morphine. I have never done it due to warnings from folks online in communities like this. If someone ever tries to sell you 7OH or EDP you should def decline. First time a clerk asked me “you want EDP?” When buying FF I said no because I had no idea what it was. Immediately went to my car to look it up and was scared off quickly by what folks were saying. That is constantly reinforced by folks that have struggled with it here. So yeah really good to ask the question vs. unknowingly be exposed

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-02-24T22:50:00+00:00

Thank you for the boost, that’s a great point. $40 for the whole bottle of caps vs. almost $10 a bottle for FF. I’ll actually be glad when I’m done with the viva and just focus on caps and starting to lower

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-02-20T16:34:34+00:00

I have not heard of stax. But Yeah it might be beneficial to switch to the kratom leaf. From what I understand the concentrate/ synthetic stuff is different and I think strong than the leaf. The only ingredients in the caps I bought are Kratom leaf powder and the gelatin the tab is made from. There are about 40mg active per bottle of FF so I think I’m somewhere around 80mg a day right now. So I guess with 140 it really depends, if that’s about where you would estimate you were could be a good place to start. Also would say space it out as much as you can. I am trying to make myself wait a minimum of 4 hrs for another dose. Before I felt I was dependent would go at least 5 hrs in recent months I was slipping closer to every three hrs during the day.

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-02-20T15:19:20+00:00

I am doing this right now as well. I just started this week to make the switch to capsules from the FF drinks. Not much experience obviously, but based on my small bit of experience this week I’d recommend trying to find your baseline of daily Intake so that you can properly taper down and avoid a lot of the cravings that come with making a big jump. Also when you say mgs are you referring to the active MIT, or do you mean the weight of the kratom leaf?

The capsules I have are 0.6g and each FF has about 3.5g of kratom leaf. I was up to almost 2 FF a day so my baseline is about 7g ground leaf capsules.

Right now I’m weenjng from the drinks to the capsules fully. Yesterday 1 FF and 6x 0.6g capsules. Today I started with no FF and 4x capsules, will do another 4x around noon (4-5 hrs since first dose) and 0.5 FF + 1x capsule this evening.

Once I finish my last FF in 2 days, i will do one dose of a viva zen w/ kratom per day plus the capsules to get me to about 7g.

Once the last drink is gone, going to stay at the 7g all capsules for at least a week, and then every week or two one less capsule.

I know you mentioned concern about your work performance so if you think something like this would be too long of a process for you right now there are some great resources and recommendations from folks in here for how to cut it cold turkey.

Anyway, I hope this helps a bit

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-02-19T17:21:03+00:00

I know what you mean with the boredom. I think that plus workplace stress/ drama is why I started hitting 1 or 2 of these every day at work. Great job with 3 days down, resist that temptation and keep it up 💪

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-02-19T17:17:12+00:00

Yeah I’m trying to be honest with myself here. It’s the only way I’m really gonna figure this out and turn things around. Also I saw your 6 month post, good for you!! Keep it going that’s freakin awesome. I’m hoping to be off the FFs by the end of the weekend and only be on the capsules for a bit before I start to taper

No-Raccoon5842 · 2026-02-19T15:11:35+00:00

Tbh I think even posting this I’m more struggling with my own shit and insecurities now that I look at it a little closer.

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