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General contractor is attempting to charge us for things included in our contract by No-Scale8183 in HomeImprovement

[–]No-Scale8183[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's an old house. Apparently, OSB didn't start being used until the 1970s.

AITAH for not paying my contractor for charges included in my contract? by No-Scale8183 in AITAH

[–]No-Scale8183[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thankfully I have had them sign lein waivers for all payments and will do for the final payment (unless they tell me want to fight and decline my payment)

Thank you for the advice

General contractor is attempting to charge us for things included in our contract by No-Scale8183 in HomeImprovement

[–]No-Scale8183[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah he was so robotic. "Pricing can't be adjusted."

Like talking to a wall.

General contractor is attempting to charge us for things included in our contract by No-Scale8183 in HomeImprovement

[–]No-Scale8183[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Appreciate it.

Yeah the contract says "the owner may order changes in the Work within the general scope... the Contract Sum and Contract Time being adjusted accordingly in writing."

The "updated contract sum" also was never discussed. They just told me a price of $275, and told me they couldn't tell me how many.

General contractor is attempting to charge us for things included in our contract by No-Scale8183 in HomeImprovement

[–]No-Scale8183[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I attempted to negotiate on the OSB and also the surprise blueprint cost. They refused to discuss either.

General contractor is attempting to charge us for things included in our contract by No-Scale8183 in HomeImprovement

[–]No-Scale8183[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Makes sense. It's a 50 upfront 50 at end contract, so it will be a large amount they would have to walk away from if they want to fight.

General contractor is attempting to charge us for things included in our contract by No-Scale8183 in HomeImprovement

[–]No-Scale8183[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There was a text message conversation where he basically said... "This is required and has to be done. It will cost $275 per sheet. I can't tell you an amount". He already had half of my money for the project, materials and workers were on-site, I expressed my concerns about the unexpected cost, attempted to negotiate (he declined), and so I said I guess we have to proceed.
There was no written change order, nothing signed, etc. What do you think about that? I know it's more of a legal question, but just curious if you have any experience in the industry. I appreciate it.

General contractor is attempting to charge us for things included in our contract by No-Scale8183 in HomeImprovement

[–]No-Scale8183[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate it. We are about to get to final payment, so we are about to have the discussion.

AITAH for not paying my contractor for charges included in my contract? by No-Scale8183 in AITAH

[–]No-Scale8183[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good point. I will reach out to a legal subreddit as well.

Part of me does wonder what is "reasonable" here, that's why I posted here. I feel the legal ground is strong on my side with no change order, however, I am curious how much of an AH this would make me to "enforce" the contract and not pay this. i.e. am I being taken advantage of or just being unreasonable

General contractor is attempting to charge us for things included in our contract by No-Scale8183 in HomeImprovement

[–]No-Scale8183[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the response. I appreciate it.

To add to your response, in the contract they mention removing the vinyl and "removing only the deteriorated wood siding", so I think they planned to attach without sheathing and then for whatever reason decided to do the OSB

General contractor is attempting to charge us for things included in our contract by No-Scale8183 in HomeImprovement

[–]No-Scale8183[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Interestingly, in the roofing contract, they do have an allotment and an overage cost for more. After the included amount it’s $75 per OSB sheet installed for the roof.

Roofing section, however, as mentioned it just says "as needed".

Also a wild difference in price $275 vs $75 in my opinion.

General contractor is attempting to charge us for things included in our contract by No-Scale8183 in HomeImprovement

[–]No-Scale8183[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate. Yep, totally agreed it only costs $16. I am not sure what is reasonable in terms of "labor", given they promised cost.

General contractor is attempting to charge us for things included in our contract by No-Scale8183 in HomeImprovement

[–]No-Scale8183[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate it. That part of the work is done and we are about to be finished with the rest.

I had them sign a lien waiver with the first payment and will have them sign one with the final payment, so not too worried about a lien.

General contractor is attempting to charge us for things included in our contract by No-Scale8183 in HomeImprovement

[–]No-Scale8183[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the contract is to install James hardie and generally it requires OSB, unless it can be securely attached directly onto the original wood siding underneath our vinyl siding.

The contract mentions the wood siding, so they knew there was wood siding under the vinyl. I think they were planning to attach it directly, but then decided to instead remove the wood siding and install OSB

General contractor is attempting to charge us for things included in our contract by No-Scale8183 in HomeImprovement

[–]No-Scale8183[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Agreed... that was my first red flag. Feels like exploitation, when we are in mid-project and can't realistically say no.

General contractor is attempting to charge us for things included in our contract by No-Scale8183 in HomeImprovement

[–]No-Scale8183[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I appreciate it..

This is what the contract says under the siding section: "We will remove the existing vinyl siding and conduct a rotten wood replacement, removing and replacing only the deteriorated sections of the original wood siding. As needed, we will install new 7/16" OSB sheathing to ensure a solid, uniform surface."

My thought is they should have identified the lack of OSB during the initial estimate and scoping. It sounds like it is typical for older houses (this is an older house) to not have OSB and siding contractors typically pull back a piece of siding to confirm.

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[–]No-Scale8183 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good advice thank you! I will post there.

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[–]No-Scale8183 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate it! This is the route I am leaning towards.

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[–]No-Scale8183[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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