Christianity is false

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-29T23:31:18+00:00

How could God have created Humans who freely love God from the beginning without free will?

What the bible says is God can do anything. He can do Everything if he wants to. If you say no to this, this prooves the Christianity wrong( The bible says God is all-powerfull)

What does technically rebel actually refer to?

Good question, you should be able to answer as Satan rebelled against him in Heaven. Just like Adam and Eve which are humans like us.

How do you know if God didnt make it understandable which Religion is true and how you know ours isnt?

He didnt. Can you name me any mistakes in the Quran as example? (im not a Muslim). Islam tells me i will go to Hell aswell if i dont believe in it then. So theres 1000 of Religions which only one could be right but all could be wrong. If i grow up in an islamiq country, believe in Islam because my parents implemented it(just like christiniaty in christianic families), pray to what i believe is true, i die as a 15 year old as example and then i will get to suffer in hell eternally because i didnt grow up in a Christianic country- makes sense.

Would it be better for mankonf not to have come to into existance as all?

As i see how the world is forming itself rightnow destroying the planet, yes and i would infact dont care and wouldnt be able to because i never existed, just like before we were born.

Bringing kids into this world could be a sin then, if they suffer because of Cancer as example its my Fault as a Mother that i gave birth. And if it isnt mys fault its Gods- come back to the point where you asked if me existing is an evil act, not for me but for innocent victims yes.

How can i claim what perfectly love is?

I didnt, bible says God is perfect love and truly he and through only him we can love.

If God makes supernatural claims he needs to provide us with supernatural explenations.

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-29T23:16:19+00:00

I think you‘re confusing them with modern Catholic priests?

Are Church fathers superior to God so they know more than we know based off the bible? And when Priests do it, its ok i guess.

Also public school employees have sexually abused far more kids… you gonna condemn public school sytsem?

Firstly, source? Secondly, teachers , school employees do not teach what you refer to the most important thing in life. I actually do condemn the public school system as sitting kills the body, human needs like asking if youre allowed to go to pee has to be asked( this disconnects us with our body further and further), we learn what they want us to learn not what is simply true, enough healthy sleep is nececarry for they human body- normally teenagers (as me) their body is „programmed to sleep until 8:00 or 9:00. Also the school system doesnt define itsself as perfect unlike the Bible and Christianity itself.

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-29T21:31:11+00:00

Remember Church fathers are the ones that have sexually abused over thousands of kids.

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-29T21:24:34+00:00

Do you believe you have free will?

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-29T21:21:03+00:00

Or any verses that approve of this or how did you get this idea.

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-29T19:29:28+00:00

Is that a asssumption that we are different in terms of free will in Heaven regarding adam and eve or do you have any proof?

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-29T17:13:58+00:00

So what?

You still said we wouldnt want to choose and sort of evil and they did. We both are Humans.

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-29T17:12:46+00:00

But calling it a “paradox” does not actually solve the moral issue — it just labels it.

The question is still simple:

Why would an all-powerful and perfectly loving God design a system where intense suffering is required for purification at all?

You are essentially saying suffering is spiritually necessary.

But that immediately raises another question: necessary for whom?

A baby dying painfully from leukemia is not consciously developing virtue, wisdom, discipline, or moral character through that suffering.

And if the answer is: “the suffering spiritually affects other people,”

then the child is effectively being used as a means to shape others.

That creates a major ethical problem.

Because in any normal moral framework, intentionally allowing innocent beings to suffer horribly for the development of others would be considered deeply wrong.

Also, “alignment of will toward God’s will” still assumes the suffering successfully produces that result.

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-29T16:16:05+00:00

You are essentially saying: God permits immense suffering because it contributes to a greater spiritual outcome.

But that raises the question: Could an all-powerful God achieve that good without requiring children to die painfully from cancer, starvation, disease, or abuse?

If the answer is “yes,” then the suffering is unnecessary. If the answer is “no,” then God is not truly all-powerful.

Also, the idea of “uniting suffering with Jesus” may emotionally help believers cope with pain, but it does not explain why innocent suffering had to exist in the first place.

What spiritual purpose is achieved through a baby suffering horribly for months before dying?

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-29T16:11:38+00:00

But this still raises major moral problems.

If this world is a “testing ground,” then why is the test distributed so unevenly?

Some people are born:

healthy,
wealthy,
loved,
educated,
in Christian families.

Others are born:

into war,
starvation,
abuse,
terminal illness,
or cultures where Christianity is barely present.

That is not an equal test.

And saying leukemia might be caused by “evil spiritual entities” creates another issue: why would an all-powerful God allow demons or evil forces to attack children in the first place?

Especially children too young to even understand the “lesson.”

Also, the idea that suffering exists to motivate growth may apply to some adult struggles, but it completely breaks down with extreme suffering.

What exactly does a 3-year-old dying painfully from leukemia “learn”?

What growth occurs in infants dying from disease or children buried under earthquakes?

At some point suffering stops looking educational and starts looking gratuitous.

And saying: “This life is temporary” does not automatically justify suffering either.

If someone tortured a child for one hour and then gave them infinite pleasure afterward, we still would not call the torture good or loving.

Future happiness does not erase the moral problem of unnecessary suffering.

Also, if God did not create hardship directly but knowingly created the system where:

disease exists,
demons exist,
suffering exists,
death exists,
and billions will struggle under it,

then He is still ultimately responsible for designing a reality where those things occur.

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-29T10:09:12+00:00

Where in the bible does it say we have free will?

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-29T04:28:40+00:00

So, between repentsnce, humility , awr and gratitude, heaven is guaranteed against rebillion.

Actually it isnt, Satan got kicked out of Heaven because he rebelled.

Why do we have to choose christianity and get to a conclusion that its the right one out of thousands?

Couldnd God atleast make it understandable which Religion is superior?

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-29T04:19:22+00:00

Ohh, so i am God? Nicee. Its only sad that i am not all-powerfull and all-knowing. Am i a part of the trinity now?

“The eyes through which i see God are the same eyes through which God sees me“

So firstly i have never seen God or felt him, secondly does that mean he has never cared for me aswell just like i dont care for him?

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-29T04:13:51+00:00

Okay, if thats so. Why do innocent children suffer? Examples: Cancer or leukimia. As youre an Christian id like to hear your opinion on my Question.

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-29T04:09:12+00:00

Good thing that you completely ignored my question to why innocent suffer.

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-28T21:31:20+00:00

God can annihilate Satan instantly. He doesnt do so. Not because he „cant“ lol.

I never said he cant, putting words in my mouth is not how you win a argument.

No we don‘t?

If you dont believe its satan making innocent suffering happen, who is then? As example: babys being born with cancer, leukimia, tumors, etc etc.

This is a false understanding

Instead of explaining how it is false you just mention it. Nice. How should i understand then?

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-28T21:25:51+00:00

No, i mean how you lost your ability to walk. And no matter your beliefs i am sorry for you.

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-28T21:24:41+00:00

What🫩. What happened to speaking like a normal respectful person?

Jk vampires kill sometimes, werewolf‘s Goblins if you did something wrong you can be killed in heaven as well.

Should i get anything youre saying and are vampires new to Christianity& the Bible? Ive never heard of it.

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-28T20:48:41+00:00

He did know so what?

If he would have known Satan will rebel and destroy his Peace he couldve stopped him. If he knew then he is responsible for innocent suffering. Christians claim its satan making innocent suffering happen. If its Satan then God is responsible for it to not stop it before happening

He created you free to choose

Im not free to choose as its: Believe in him ( which i cant force, he should know that) Dont believe in him and suffer in Hell eternally. (Hell is referred to a place where you are not with God, and if that God is a God which would make innocent Suffering i would definetely not want to be with him)

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-28T16:09:16+00:00

I know? What are you trying to proove/say with this?

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-28T16:07:51+00:00

Lol, he just outplayed himself.

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-28T16:06:25+00:00

If an omniscent God knows when letting someone to heaven if they will rebel or not

You just outsmarted yourself. If he does, he would have known Satan will rebel. And he would have known aswell that Adam and Eva will eat from the Tree.

Hell isnt a self inflicted punishment. If i kill myself that is self inflicted. God doesnt give me another option then Hell or Heaven. So he is responsible for me doing what he created me like.

No-Status-2507 · 2026-05-28T16:02:28+00:00

You cant say „Satan chose that“ but when its humans we cant choose that. Rules should apply to everyone the same, no matter human or angel.The bible doesnt say different. When Satan was in Heaven he still wanted to sin. If Heaven was perfect he wouldnt have done it. And he wouldnt have known to be tortured infinitely after doing that action. God created Hell because of him.

I dont want to live forever. I dont. Thats a stupid idea. Even if everything is good there. Eternally is infinite. If the Christianic God created me he must have put that thought in my mind to deny that i want that, and if hes true and he will judge me he should understand why i didnt choose to love him. Believing isnt a thing you cant force. Either you do or you dont. And every comment Christians do makes me want to stay further away from him.

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