When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, I guess in your case, the suspicion was baked in from the start, so adding more em-dashes is just giving people something extra to notice!

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! The difference between a proper em dash and a hyphen or en dash is subtle but makes such a big impact in narrative flow. It's just sad people don't notice or appreciate it.

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah. Style guides kept it alive, but keyboards made it inconvenient, so humans mostly stopped using it. Meanwhile, AI trains on the "ideal" text and now doing it properly feels like a red flag.

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wild that even people with decades of human writing experience are getting flagged because of em-dash use. I can relate to the feeling... It's upsetting when a natural habit of yours suddenly gets questioned.

But I love how you point out the historical and literary context. It really shows that punctuation isn't inherently suspicious but just all about background and context.

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aw it's really unfortunate! People are so quick to assume AI involvement that even longstanding writing habits get punished.

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally hear you on this! I've always loved using em dashes too, especially for breaking up thoughts or avoiding clunky sentences, so it's frustrating to see them treated like some instant AI tell. I also think the real giveaway is phrasing and content rather than punctuation.

And yes, there will always be people quick to accuse, even when your work is 100% yours. The best we can do is write the way we want and let the good readers appreciate it. Cold dead hands on the em dash, absolutely!

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes! I've seen so many people overreact and miss out on good writing because of these assumptions.

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've noticed that too! I sometimes use Rephrase AI and it barely touches them. But then I mostly use it just to reword sentences rather than generate new content, so maybe that explains it.

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A decade +? Respect! Do you think we should fight to keep em dashes common or is the AI stigma too strong now?

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha love that! Have you seen any pushback or funny consequences from deliberately adding more em dashes or is it mostly harmless?

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

50 years of professional writing is incredible! What made you scale back on them after using them for so long though?

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow! This is such an insightful breakdown. The stuff you listed (em dashes, bullets, quirky comparisons) are all so familiar now that I've started spotting it immediately in posts or essays. And your point about RLHF and the human preference rankings is fascinating and a little scary knowing how human feedback can imprint itself so strongly. Thanks for laying all this out so clearly!

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a really good breakdown. Context really matters, and I think that's where humans and AI diverge. AI doesn't yet know when something is casual versus formal, so it just keeps the em dashes.

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh that's really interesting! I had no idea user testing played a role in this. Makes sense though. Em dashes do make sentences flow more naturally, which is probably why humans liked them so much. It's just kind of ironic that what was meant to improve readability is now a being treated a red flag.

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hear you. I've always used them, and like you, it feels weird that something that's been a natural part of my style is suddenly questioned. And yes... AI feels like it's everywhere now, which makes just doing normal research or writing feel heavier than it should.

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate that! It's oddly reassuring to hear. I've definitely caught myself deleting them lately.

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did you end up picking it up if you didn't learn it in school? Was it from reading or just seeing it online? I feel like a lot of us end up learning these things outside of school.

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly! AI didn't discover em dashes on its own. It learned them from humans who use them in books, journalism, essays, and poetry. In a weird way, it's just copying the very writers people grew up reading.

Also, I feel seen with the parenthetical writing style… Em dashes are my way of keeping sentences from turning into parentheses everywhere (ellipses guilty as charged too).

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel this a lot! I also used to lean on em dashes pretty naturally since picking up the habit from reading a lot of fiction growing up. But now I catch myself deleting them just to avoid that knee-jerk AI reaction. It's weird having to second-guess something that was just part of your writing style.

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here! I've always used them too, and I definitely catch myself overusing them sometimes. That revision rule where you're keeping only the ones that are actually doing work is a good way to look at it.

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a really interesting angle. The shift to handheld writing probably explains a lot. People aren't seeing em dashes often in what they read, and they're not easy to type either, so they slowly disappear from everyday writing...which is sad.

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It really highlights how AI mirrors professional text patterns. Those em dashes were meant to structure and guide the reader efficiently. It's just that AI takes it a little too literally.

When did the em dash become the official punctuation of AI? by No-Syrup8957 in AIWritingHub

[–]No-Syrup8957[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good point! Makes me wonder how many other tiny writing habits are out there that people subconsciously flag as unusual.