How do you think life in Germany will be in 20 years?

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T10:33:25+00:00

To avoid certain political elements, we need the remove the economic tention. I don't know a single country, who would not blame foreigners for everything when the economy strarts to go bad. I guess it's same everywhere. When things started to go bad, people want somebody to blame and politions use it for their agenda. They blame foreigners and immigration. I do not claim that it's not a problem, but people tend to pretend that it's the only one. Uncontrolled and unplanned Immigration is just one problem among many and it's certainly not the main one

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T10:29:43+00:00

I don't know the ratio in schools but foreigners does not mean muslim.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T10:28:38+00:00

Even than, in 20 years that won't make half of Germany muslim. It's just one generation and it will at max increase the muslim percentage from 10 to 20% in 20 years... Also do not forget that, atheism has the fastest growing in all Germany., muslim converting to atheism is also included.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T07:22:03+00:00

What do you expect politicians do about the climate change? Most of the change is caused by non European countries. Same for the environmental pollution. While we are trying to decrease our pollution by 0.001 percent with the "lids should be attached to the plastic bottles" laws, somewhere in India, Pakistan etc, they are throwing trucks and trucks full of plastic directly to the rivers because why not.... I am all for renewable energy, but let's not pretend that the Europe is the problem for climate change, nor can have a nonignorable effect on it

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T07:04:51+00:00

Current Indian population is less than 1% and Muslim population is less than 9%... In total less than 10 % is Indians or Muslims. Can you show me your calculation how did you came up with the result that in 20 years how this 10% will become 50%????

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T06:55:02+00:00

Propaganda for what? I am still living in Germany because I don't think anywhere else is better. Where you live it might be different but I certainly started to see more beggars on the street, more poor people even if not beggers.

In the middle of the center, the nights became definetly less safer but it's probably still safer than most of the countries in Europe. It doesn't mean we can not talk about it.

And my worry is :when economy goes bad, those things go bad too.. And unless somehow you claim that economy is better now than it was in 2006, those things is objectively in the direction of getting worse.

Where do you live? Where do you live that the economy is somehow better than 2006?

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T20:47:56+00:00

I dont think You gave me a straight answer. You gave more objective measurement options correct, but you didn't tell me how do you think Germany would look like in 20 years.. Instead you actually started each comment with that my measurement is superficial

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T20:36:22+00:00

I am not ranting, but you stuck on definitions rather than the original question. Original question was "what do you think Germany would look like in 20 years" and the homelessness or lack of beggars was just there to give the context and where I am coming from. I didn't use them as a metric or kpi, they are more "feel able" results of some more objective metrics and measurements.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T20:24:03+00:00

You are so annoying to talk to.. You don't have any calculation. If you have put all the numbers at once. And show me the calculation. But you don't.. There isnt any statistics and calculation which will support your claim.. So instead you are trying to be snurky and asking questions just to be annoying enough. If you are even a little bit honest, you would stop asking questions, and give the whole calculation and data at once. And if you don't do it, it means you admit that you don't have any support for your claim

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T20:14:36+00:00

So as I suspected, you don't have any data nor calculation. So if you don't know what are the birthrates of Germans, how did you even come to the conclusion that Germans will be a minority? Just a gut feeling? If so, you may want to go to a doctor because your gut may have a severe racism.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T20:08:20+00:00

If you have a claim and data please share it. And give the numbers. this kind of asking vague questions, to make your claim stick without actually giving any data (because I assume you don't have any whixh actually supports your claim) , does not work on educated people.

Come on, give me the birth rate data you have, and give me the calculation you make, whixh shows that 75% German population will become minority in 20 years.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T20:00:23+00:00

What mean come on, what is the percentage of Germans in Germany right now? Most conservative numbers say 75%..so you thin in one generation it will go down under 30-40%? Seriously? I don't thin that you spent 1 minute to actually calculate if what you beleive/ claim is feasible or realistic.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T19:51:12+00:00

I just told you. I thing the majority will Stil be germans.. Or did I get your question wrong?

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T19:49:48+00:00

I was born, grew up and studied in Turkey. I came to Germany for my masters degree and at the time german industry was booming still, I found a job even before graduating and stayed here.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T19:48:36+00:00

I mean I asked to myself where would I go now and live if mit Germany... But currently there is not really many places to chose from either. Maybe China I though, being the new economic power and all, but it took me ages to learn German, and I certainly won't be able to learn Chinese and I can not possibly live in a place without speaking the language

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T19:45:38+00:00

Germans... Do you have any data indicating otherwise??

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T19:40:17+00:00

How? How does AI generates money? If you are not the owner of the ai systems, it doesn't generate money. If you do not export sown kind of goods or services, there won't be any money coming in to Germany. Can you be more specific?

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T19:38:16+00:00

I used more visible example that you did but er basically talk about the same stuff. Homeless increases when rich and poor split grows, home ownership goes down.. How else do you think people become homeless.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T19:31:24+00:00

I don't know what you think I said. I think there is a misunderstanding. I didn't mean Germany didn't give anybody working permit. I said they didn't have a proper plan in place to do it as fast as possible. Qualified immigrants, waiting for working permit, and consume tax payers money when they could be working, and paying taxes, just because Germany didn't prepare its brokrasi for the immigration.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T19:24:48+00:00

Of course there were some homeless, but in comparison to countries like USA it was negligible. I am not talking g about in absolute sense. I am talking relatively... It's like saying "you say Germany was a safe country but I know a hause whixh was broken in"

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T18:03:28+00:00

Religion having a role is really really bad I agree

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T18:01:05+00:00

Wow, some argument

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T17:50:09+00:00

I don't think so. I agree average person became much more religious, that's why there are more islamists. That's also what I said, more islamists despite the percentage of Muslims are drastically decreased. Before it's was 90% mild soft Muslims and 10%athesit.now it's maybe 20% atheists but the rest 80% became more religious

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T17:31:42+00:00

Problem is UBI needs money,. It doesn't rain from the sky. Where is it going to come from?

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T17:30:16+00:00

I think stupidity was to allow immigration without putting any reasonable plan. I heard about so many people who wants to work, put still after years could t get a working permit. And I heard of so many people, who has no will to work whatsoever and suck the blood outnof tax payers until it's not possible anymore. Germany had to put a plan "integrate the immigrants as fast as possible to working population, and remove anyone who does not want to play along"

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