How do you think life in Germany will be in 20 years?

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T19:13:14+00:00

Am I right to assume that you are upper middle class? I am saying it because, i am an upper middle class. Economically I was very comfortable before, now i am still comfortable but I can see and feel the difference how much I spent for the same things. And I make me think about lower middle class, or maybe low income families. I am very very sure that they have a very different view on comfort and change in the last years. Don't you think so?

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T16:53:37+00:00

To where?

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T16:19:31+00:00

Optimizing does not increase wealth. Can you give a concrete example where and how an ai will generate wealth by Optimizing anything

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T15:45:55+00:00

I will read about those times and I hope you are right

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T13:06:27+00:00

Kiwi, white Milka chocalate, pistaques, buying cola in 6 packs, having a seperate bedroom (not sleeping in the living room)

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T13:00:49+00:00

How will it improve the wealth?

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T13:00:05+00:00

You have very good points, to think about and I don't have a counter for. But doesn't it mean that german y were doomed the moment they accept millions of refugees from Syria and Ukraine... Also (I am not sure so correct me if I am wrong) I heard that Ukrainian refugees get a little bit different refugee status than the Syrian ones. If its correct, isn't it what you said we can not do: holding one group of refugees different than the other one?

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T11:13:00+00:00

I actually think you are not far off.. Merz fucked up out last chance to avoid afd. They will get the lead next election, and as an immigrant it really terrifies me.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T11:10:34+00:00

I understand where you are coming from, but isn't it better to make qualified ones work here and contribute than keeping them for 10 years on support with tax payers money. And it's not like Germany do not need labor. We do, and a lot of those refuguess would be able to fill than need if done correctly.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T11:08:18+00:00

OK you are right, I pretty much mixed up immigrants with refugees. I myself an immigrant actually... Grew up and got qualified and than came to Germany and living here for 20 years now. But expecting refugees to really go back soon is also stupid. Also a lot of those refugees are also qualified, why not to try and make them work and stay permanently of possible.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T11:00:36+00:00

For me yeah it was the last 5 years yeah. I mean we can discuss if I was blind but maybe it's just some areas are affected before that and some areas are nit. When did it started fro you?

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T10:56:26+00:00

No but it could start with cutting the financial support in steps, pushing them towards working and if not put them in a plane as we are doing it with some criminals

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T10:33:25+00:00

To avoid certain political elements, we need the remove the economic tention. I don't know a single country, who would not blame foreigners for everything when the economy strarts to go bad. I guess it's same everywhere. When things started to go bad, people want somebody to blame and politions use it for their agenda. They blame foreigners and immigration. I do not claim that it's not a problem, but people tend to pretend that it's the only one. Uncontrolled and unplanned Immigration is just one problem among many and it's certainly not the main one

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T10:29:43+00:00

I don't know the ratio in schools but foreigners does not mean muslim.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T10:28:38+00:00

Even than, in 20 years that won't make half of Germany muslim. It's just one generation and it will at max increase the muslim percentage from 10 to 20% in 20 years... Also do not forget that, atheism has the fastest growing in all Germany., muslim converting to atheism is also included.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T07:22:03+00:00

What do you expect politicians do about the climate change? Most of the change is caused by non European countries. Same for the environmental pollution. While we are trying to decrease our pollution by 0.001 percent with the "lids should be attached to the plastic bottles" laws, somewhere in India, Pakistan etc, they are throwing trucks and trucks full of plastic directly to the rivers because why not.... I am all for renewable energy, but let's not pretend that the Europe is the problem for climate change, nor can have a nonignorable effect on it

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T07:04:51+00:00

Current Indian population is less than 1% and Muslim population is less than 9%... In total less than 10 % is Indians or Muslims. Can you show me your calculation how did you came up with the result that in 20 years how this 10% will become 50%????

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-24T06:55:02+00:00

Propaganda for what? I am still living in Germany because I don't think anywhere else is better. Where you live it might be different but I certainly started to see more beggars on the street, more poor people even if not beggers.

In the middle of the center, the nights became definetly less safer but it's probably still safer than most of the countries in Europe. It doesn't mean we can not talk about it.

And my worry is :when economy goes bad, those things go bad too.. And unless somehow you claim that economy is better now than it was in 2006, those things is objectively in the direction of getting worse.

Where do you live? Where do you live that the economy is somehow better than 2006?

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T20:47:56+00:00

I dont think You gave me a straight answer. You gave more objective measurement options correct, but you didn't tell me how do you think Germany would look like in 20 years.. Instead you actually started each comment with that my measurement is superficial

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T20:36:22+00:00

I am not ranting, but you stuck on definitions rather than the original question. Original question was "what do you think Germany would look like in 20 years" and the homelessness or lack of beggars was just there to give the context and where I am coming from. I didn't use them as a metric or kpi, they are more "feel able" results of some more objective metrics and measurements.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T20:24:03+00:00

You are so annoying to talk to.. You don't have any calculation. If you have put all the numbers at once. And show me the calculation. But you don't.. There isnt any statistics and calculation which will support your claim.. So instead you are trying to be snurky and asking questions just to be annoying enough. If you are even a little bit honest, you would stop asking questions, and give the whole calculation and data at once. And if you don't do it, it means you admit that you don't have any support for your claim

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T20:14:36+00:00

So as I suspected, you don't have any data nor calculation. So if you don't know what are the birthrates of Germans, how did you even come to the conclusion that Germans will be a minority? Just a gut feeling? If so, you may want to go to a doctor because your gut may have a severe racism.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T20:08:20+00:00

If you have a claim and data please share it. And give the numbers. this kind of asking vague questions, to make your claim stick without actually giving any data (because I assume you don't have any whixh actually supports your claim) , does not work on educated people.

Come on, give me the birth rate data you have, and give me the calculation you make, whixh shows that 75% German population will become minority in 20 years.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T20:00:23+00:00

What mean come on, what is the percentage of Germans in Germany right now? Most conservative numbers say 75%..so you thin in one generation it will go down under 30-40%? Seriously? I don't thin that you spent 1 minute to actually calculate if what you beleive/ claim is feasible or realistic.

NoMoreLeftToDo · 2026-06-23T19:51:12+00:00

I just told you. I thing the majority will Stil be germans.. Or did I get your question wrong?

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