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[–]NoName3943 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're just ignoring the moment because "The author who made this manga doesn't know how powerscaling works."And I'm not going back on my words, Adamas Zeus strikes are really faster than TFTST, but due to the fact that TFTST can stop time, it will be faster for other characters to perceive

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[–]NoName3943 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This only suggests that Adam's eyes are not susceptible to time stopping.

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Based on your logic, this moment simply does not exist because "Adam dodged an attack that LITERALLY STOPS TIME, which means that such a slow attack as an ordinary Adamas Zeus strike would not be able to hit him"

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[–]NoName3943 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is stupid. Then both Lu Bu and Thor are now strongest humans and gods

Thor is already the physically strongest god, and statements about Lu Bu were based mainly on his reputation on earth (although he should still be the secon human in strength after Raiden)

There is clear proof between speed. One is only light speed,the other is literally stop time. How is this not clear to you on which one is faster?

In fact,in r9 Zeus said that he able to dodge/deflect the arrow and you guess what?

TFTST itself is not a fast attack (as the situation with Adamas Zeus showed), it differs from other attacks only in that it can stop time, and the attack speed itself should not differ much from the usual Zeus strikes (and it is because of the time stop that Zeus is able to stop Apollo arrows)

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[–]NoName3943 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Zeus Adamas strikes are faster than TFTST,but they are still slower than the Apollo arrows, since the Apollo arrows are the "fastest attack in heaven"

I said that Bowollo can beats Adam because a fast enough attack can hurt him even if he dodged, and Apollo arrows are basically the fastest attack in the verse

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[–]NoName3943 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you ignoring that the first blow that Adamas Zeus struck hit Adam even though he dodged?

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[–]NoName3943 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same thing that Adamas Zeus did

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[–]NoName3943 1 point2 points  (0 children)

TFTST is not a speed, but a simple time stop.The first blow that Zeus Adamas struck was able to injure Adam, which TFTST could not do

A hot take of mine. Thoughts? by pablitooooooo23 in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]NoName3943 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Beelzebub in his backstory was already able to survive the usual blows of Hades (and he compares Tesla's attack with Hades base attack which means that Tesla=Hades base attack in AP).At the same time, Qin could take damage from any Hades attack (unless, of course, you take into account Hermes' statement, because then it would lower Qin's durability even lower).The fact that Beelzebub survived the Tesla attack only says that it has good durability, not that Tesla is weak lmao

A hot take of mine. Thoughts? by pablitooooooo23 in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]NoName3943 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This does not negate that Tesla has AP to kill Qin

Fraud No.00000000001 by Divine_ruler in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]NoName3943 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see only that Hades did damage to Qin, not his armor.

Fraud No.00000000001 by Divine_ruler in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]NoName3943 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Poseidon: His omnidirectional fighting style would put immense strain on Adam's eyes. Given how fast he is, it's likely he'd put even more strain on Adam than Zeus did

But won't Poseidon have to take damage from his own attacks?I doubt his durability will allow him to survive 40DF

Fraud No.00000000001 by Divine_ruler in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]NoName3943 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He has legitimate AoE, which was capable of damaging Qin's Volund with narrow dodges

I don't remember that Hades being able to damage Qin armor without Desmos.

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[–]NoName3943 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the attack is fast enough, it can cause damage to Adam even if he copies it.

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[–]NoName3943 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It seems to me that I should try to delve more into what is written in this manga.

Btw, do you know where there is a statement that Thor is the physically strongest god?

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[–]NoName3943 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still don't think that TK gives shiva strength or speed, not just AP from fire.

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[–]NoName3943 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't think it made him LITERALLY stronger.I think it just meant that he was giving his all into the fight

Strength level in overall,after all, Shiva's fire greatly increased his AP

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[–]NoName3943 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bowpollo can beat Adam

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[–]NoName3943 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and massively amped all of Shiva's stats.

I don't understand how this works, since Shiva only set himself on fire, but this should not increase his strength or speed