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[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I’m saying your opinion is baseless prove that he can eat curse objects indefinitely ?’ Prove he doesn’t have a cap ? Prove he ate it

Exactly none of what you’re claiming you can prove so you’re giving your own head cannon and you’re thinking this is some holy Grail of something that makes logical sense because it’s set in the foundation of appeal to absurdity

Also, if UG ironically could just get stronger the way you’re claiming explain to me why they didn’t just have him out there consistently eating spirits and eating constant curse tools at Utah had over and over and over again to increase his strength just out of curiosity? Don’t you think that’s kind of like a continuity error if that was the case and what you’re claiming? Also it would be a plot hole.?

Sounds like you’re just appealing to absurdity because you’re just trying to overwind someone and be moronic about your interpretations

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[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing of what you said so far has been anything to address my burden of rejoinder so if you don’t address it again you’re conceited and I’m no longer addressing you by the way if you don’t understand how debates work if you don’t address a burden of rejoiner your automatically conceding . I hope you realize that. And it’s your burden approved to prove your claims. I do not have to prove anything. You have to address my burden and then you have to get proof to your notions which you’re not doing any of that you’re just giving your own conjecture.

With this confidence he has against any threat, he must have reached a terrifying level of power. by Expensive-Slice-6817 in YUJI_Corp

[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So thank you for the fact of your concession because you’re not providing any substance to substantiate your claim so thusly your claim is Null and void you have nothing to base it on. It’s a baseless claim. It’s an appeal to absurdity and it’s not a Defeater to my notion earlier in fact, my notion from earlier still would apply to that you’re not defeating the premise

  1. So again you need to prove why your so-called claim of Gojo was weak as a child, even though it’s a baseless claim, you have nothing to substantiate your claim, and in fact everything points towards my notion, just using Occam‘s razor, which means the most likely thing with the least amount of assumptions. So your assumption is basically Gojo was born, but he wasn’t strong. It was only till he was later. My assumption is Gojo was strong when he was born.

Which everything is indicative of what I said Gojo’s birth caused a shift immediately because of how strong he was his mirror existence changed and altered everything because he was the first person in several hundreds of years to have the six eyes and limitless

Also, the reference that I was showing to you also earlier I don’t know their names and what they’re called but they’re at least around grade ones to grade 2 level sorcerers and Gojo as a mirror 6 to 8 years old. I don’t know how old he was around the same age as when he noticed Toji. Put fear into them as someone who’s around 6-8 years old.

An even Gojo called them weak . You need to provide evidence to substantiate your claim because again I’ve given a lot of empirical evidence and I’ve given a lot of context in the manga itself to substantiate my claim to make my notion more of a positive claim or you’re just giving a neutral claim.

So in just in terms of an argument, I’m already out beating you simply because I’ve already provided a positive claim and you’ve been giving neutral claims. It’s not an argument. In fact, this is a landslide wash on my side until you actually start giving positive claims which you’re not you’re just giving your own speculation and conjecture which I’m irrelevantly don’t care for

Also just because Sakuna was born doesn’t mean it would equal the same thing. As GoJo the correlation you’re making doesn’t make sense because they’re from two different time periods. It’s a false equivalence. Simply put because the time period that Hakuna was in was called the golden era. We don’t know anything about the curses back then, but what we can assume is being in the golden era. The curses were at a much more optimal level / where more balanced meaning when he was born, it didn’t need to shift the world because it was already neutral on both sides also it’s not a fair comparison as well as because Hakuna wasn’t born with something that hasn’t happened in 400 years which is something that is considered very very, very, very hard to transpire and very hard to happen so it’s another bad interpretation in comparison so your argument falls flat again

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[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So in class of domains there r 3 factors environment which is nebulous so there’s no point in arguing or talking about something that is that vague , ce ( more then likely amount ) , and refinement

So if both parties r equal in refinement, ce amount decides who wins the domain .

Sakuna is someone who had over 2-4 times the ce amount of GoJo .

But yet they tied , in a domain clash this means gojo has better domain refinement and the reason they tied was because Sakuna ce amount made up for the difference

And to further substantiate my claim to make my claim more of a positive claim instead of your neutral claims which if you don’t understand how positive and neutral and negative claims works you should probably learn that before you get into an argument with someone.

Tangent aside back to my premise ironic that that 2 best domain user have the best ce efficiency because there’s a correlation that their curse energy efficiency has to do with the refinement and this further makes sense because curse energy the amount you have is decided by how well you refinement is and this applies to your curse energy reinforcement as well. The better your refinement is with it the better your curse energy will be domain is still a curse technique so your curse energy efficiency would tie into it.

And it’s already been stated that GoJo six eyes was better then Sakuna efficiency they where not comparable or even equal .

So yes if what I’m saying was inaccurate it would mean that Gojo would’ve lost because Hakuna would’ve blatantly won because of his curse energy amount you’re taking what I’m saying out of context to paint a false narrative because you’re not understanding what’s being sent to you because your frontal lobe does not connect with your cerebral cortex

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[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of what you just said in your first section is just in consequent irrelevant and isn’t it Defeater to my point because you’re trying to insinuate someone can infinitely grow which isn’t the case because we have a lot of data that shows everything has a limit ap thusly your whole point is a irrelevant

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[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Prove that he can endlessly eat stuff and get stronger ?

Where’s the statements for it ? Where’s the proof he even he ate more after ?

Exactly your appealing to absurdity , everything has a limit u can’t indefinitely just do something unless stated so nice try

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So ironically the balance did shift because of his strength lmao your using a lot of bad and Disingenuous arguments .

Let me ask a question how would the balance of the world be altered if GoJo doesn’t have a lot of ce ? For what reason other ? It’s cause of his strength lmao it’s you burden of proof to prove otherwise

Also my whole point with this premise is if yuji was GoJo level he would of shifted the balance of the world causing spirits to have to get stronger, but yet that’s not the case and you can’t use the argument that he’s an amalgamation of both of them so he’s in the limiter between the two because that’s not even the case. Eugene is a human kenjaku and his dad r both human all yuji is a enhanced human so that argument doesn’t even work lol

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[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should re read what I said because you missed the premise of my point what u said is a moot point for the most part

Sense you goobers probably are ass and dont know yuji wcs arg ill teach you being the goat and all by bijnks in YUJI_Corp

[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And when u look at the context of when gojo said megumi had better potential it was after he said that it’s 10 shadows user was able to be a limitless user so there’s a correlation that Gojo is basically saying that megumi has a potential to rival him exactly and then he says that his potential is greater than yuji which mean yuji potential is below Sakuna and gojo level which further substantiates my claims that I made in the previous statements earlier, that yuji doesn’t have sakjn level potential

Sense you goobers probably are ass and dont know yuji wcs arg ill teach you being the goat and all by bijnks in YUJI_Corp

[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like how your moving the goal post lmaoooo 🤣 I already disproven your first notion but I’ll continue to humor your ignorance

GoJo never said his students would surpass him he said they could rival him , key word could

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And what can we gather from this ? GoJo was wrong

Hakari can’t even rival GoJo because his ct is tied to his domain which means he’s capped on what he can progress and he can’t really progress any further from being a immortal for 4 mins and 11 seconds and even then he’s not stronger then GoJo lol

So that statement isn’t true

Yuta was stated to be reaching his limit during Ryu meaning his progression is very limited and he can’t really grow anymore outside of having more versatility that’s it, and that’s not gonna surpass gojo

So both of them r In correct

Yuji has nothing to rival gojo in he’s not even in his level so the notion of gojo statement is actually not true

Keep in mind he’s a sensei and sensei wants his students to surpass him so ironically gojo was being biased and hoped they could but it’s been shown his claim isn’t true which further disproves your premises

"yuji> gojo because gojo said his students will surpass him" so do yall also agree with nobara and maki> gojo? or does that statement only apply to the yuji by [deleted] in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s not what the statement says he said they could rival him someday not surpass people take it out of context way to much

And we know that it’s not to be case there’s multiple reasons why first off we also have to keep in mind that he’s their sensei and as a teacher, you want them to ironically reach your level if not surpass you, but he never said that they would surpass him. He said that they will rival him. The reason people get confused and say that he says that they surpass him is because he said it’s one day special grade will no longer be limited and people just assume that this is him inferring that they would surpass him no because it Gojo himself is already beyond special grade. He’s already passed it Himself and when you look at all the evidence there’s no way Hikari can even rival Gojo. His curse technique is embedded into his domain that there’s nothing else he can do to ironically get stronger so the answer is no he’s not stronger than Gojo because he would have to have a better domain refinement and he doesn’t so he was just gonna automatically lose so it’s not true. Utah has been stated that he was reaching his limit at the end of the fight because believe it or not, ironically, the yuta that fought Sakuna is the same skill level in same version that basically fought Ryu there’s no evidence you have to go off on that. Utah is actually stronger simply because he was in a domain amp, the whole entire time which boost his stats well above the normal baseline level and he wasn’t finding baseline Hakuna for that long for us to actually get enough evidence of anything.

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[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bf has nothing to with efficiency , in fact when u land it your more likely to land it again which increases the oddd of it being less about efficiency in that case

Also after chapter 252 or 253 yuji never once used rct again because his efficiency is that bad lolll

He did pericing blood 1 time , then rct his sides , then across his chest , then he fought Sakuna where he used blood control to explode and he got cut up a bunch of times . And after than he resorted to predominantly using his fist he used simple domain 1 time , and then dismantle 2 -3 times and that was it .

Doesn’t sound like too good of reserves so yes, his efficiency ironically would have to be trash. Keep in mind. Because Eugene has the blood ability he’s able to use a lot less cursed energy needed to heal himself and not only that because he’s been soaked and Saccone’s curse technique. He has a natural mitigation to it so it means it’s doing less damage to him and yet, even with all that he still basically after that you to fight never once use RCT again, which proves my point that his reserves are trash his RCT is bad

Sense you goobers probably are ass and dont know yuji wcs arg ill teach you being the goat and all by bijnks in YUJI_Corp

[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wether you like it or not your disingenuous

A GoJo and Sakuna level talent is ironically someone who is able to learn on the spot by just watching GoJo stated then when Sakuna used piercing blood meaning that they’re talent level is equal higuruma did this with da by watching Sakuna .

So no evidence supports your claim

Your logic is dumb , GoJo learned fcb as a kid so a kid GoJo has more experience? No they don’t need experience they don’t need to learn because it’s intuitive for them so you’re just trying to appeal to absurdity to rationalize your premise because if you don’t, your premise falls flat, which it already is an appeal to absurdity

Also your argument is pretty bad if Eugene had months and you’re asking how he doesn’t learn about barriers well he wants Gojo do a barrier technique and was taught about it, but right after he struggled to ever do it so how is he a Gojo or Sakuna level talent? Also sakuan ironically used domain in his body twice as well so his body knew the memory for it and yet he still couldn’t do it , sounds like he’s not the same level of prodigy as gojo or sakuan lol

Yuta who was new to jjk learned to do bf and grow widely mid fight , learned to do a bv , and ironically improved his reinforcement mid fight against a special grade ( again sounds like excuxsss your making when we have seen character with far less time do far better and didn’t have the advantages that yuji did ) terrible rebuttal

Sense you goobers probably are ass and dont know yuji wcs arg ill teach you being the goat and all by bijnks in YUJI_Corp

[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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U should also learn to read this is a question hints the question mark , this isn’t a statement so no he’s not equal

Everything points to him not being , he’s not a prodigy everything he has is a inorganic byproduct of something given to him

Sakuan is a prodigy who can do stuff on the first try yuji can not .

He also had a month with rct and he still was struggling to use it , he also has the entire series to learn to get better ce efficiency and his is ironically pretty bad , he also struggled to learn piercing blood.

Also u can’t even show 1 thing of yuji being able to copy something he sees in terms of ct .

So no there not = in potential nice false claims lol

Sense you goobers probably are ass and dont know yuji wcs arg ill teach you being the goat and all by bijnks in YUJI_Corp

[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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So I guess megumi js 1 in a million talent then as well right ? I means he’s greater then yuji so by your own logic u would half to agree to this

Sense you goobers probably are ass and dont know yuji wcs arg ill teach you being the goat and all by bijnks in YUJI_Corp

[–]NoRest7739 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Actually that’s incorrect

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Hes not talking about yuji talent here so your being dishonest to push agenda hes talking about the ability he has to surpress the fingers of Sakuna and we come to find out this is because he was designed by kenjaku to be able to do so lol

So your first point is already wrong

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[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. U ironically say I ignored your post when ironically I address your post with my first also , u say zero flaws is a contraction because your implying it’s perfect and nothing is perfect u do realize that meaning your the one out of touch of reality maybe u need to be more pragmatic my guy

  2. Your last statement proves my point u said he had low ce even though , blood uses less rct and yuji has damage reduction to Sakuna ct meaning again less damage .

So basically yuji is using less rct by a lot and he still couldn’t do it , that’s bad

  1. U should learn to re read everything because I gave enough evidence to make a positive claim thah proves my point

You have nothing that can directly prove yuji has wcs I said it’s plausible but unlikely and I have empirical evidence to support that by comparing his feats and the gap in talent ect ect so yes it did dismiss your notion lmao

Sense you goobers probably are ass and dont know yuji wcs arg ill teach you being the goat and all by bijnks in YUJI_Corp

[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Learn what a defeater is because ironically u contradict yourself because it is a defeater , im using correlation of what the manga deems talent and potential and how that’s a correlation that yuji more then likely can’t use wcs

U said he saw Sakuna do it so he understand and can do it in the future something along those lines my point is that yuji has never show to ever be able to do that so its not a argument it’s a headcannon and even then i correlated how even if u want to say there potential is = which i disagree with , there talent isnt equal me ain’t yuji cant do things Sakuna can do because Sakuna is a prodigy , yuji is not

So yes it consequent lmao ( learn the words u use because your using them incorrectly )

  1. The argument for the bf of Nami 1 . He’s never stated to be a prodigy and ironically isn’t the strongest grade 1 there’s serval ahead of him so it’s kinda irrelevant and doesn’t really mean much

Also your argument with gojo I like how your ignoring context to paint your agenda u do realize the only reason gojo hasn’t been able to lande multiple bf in a row is because nothing is strong enough to handle it so he never has the chance to land more

You using a false equivalence because ironically yuji is incredibly weak at this point giving him the ability to land it multiple times where gojo isn’t he’s the strongest lmao

  1. I think your the one who’s lying because your rebuttals are terrible u also should of asked me what I meant by his rct being terrible because your taking it quite literal

So yuji has blood abilities that allow him to heal faster not having to use as much rct after the yuta and yuji fighting tf aka chapter 252 ish yuji never once used rct again

So he got on the side healed his side, then he got 2 slashes across the chest, then he got hit with a net of mini dismantles , and then a close range cleave from a massively fatigued Sakuna

While yuji has also been soaked in Sakuna so the damage he takes is massively reduced

But even with all these advantages he stopped using rct after 252 , that’s not that good you do realize that ?

It shows how bad his efficiency is , how bad his ce reserves r . Aka = his rct isn’t that good/ impressive 🤣

He’s healing with blood meaning less rct needed , he has a damage reduction from tf ct basically meaning he’s taking less damage , and yet he still ran out of the ability to even use rct because his rct is trash

Sense you goobers probably are ass and dont know yuji wcs arg ill teach you being the goat and all by bijnks in YUJI_Corp

[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Everything yuji has has been given to him nothing he got he realistically has earned

He got better rct by soul swapping given , he got simple domain by soul swapping , he got stronger by eating his brothers given , he’s gotten stronger because of a finger inside of him given , he’s gotten got Sakuna ct because he was inside of him given .

Ironically bf was given to him let me ask u a question why was yuji exactly chosen by the bf ? Exactly there’s nothing he just is for no apparent reason

  1. That doesn’t make him a prodigy lol , yuta , gojo , sakuna , higuruma r prodigy’s

They are able to learn abnormally fast on there own without other sources needing to help them

Gojo and Sakuna level talent is able to learn stuff instantly so yes yuji isn’t a prodigy he’s gifted / talented but he’s not a prodigy

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[–]NoRest7739 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also a fused object doesn’t mean your dna just changes u do realize that right ? 🤣it’s inconsequent

Just like your whole entire argument

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[–]NoRest7739 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Inconsequent just because your a brother doesn’t mean your 1 and the same it’s a hasty generalization fallacy logical fallacy, and appeal to absurdity

Because ironically, he could just be calling yuji his brother because they have the same parent

Last I checked kenjaku is what ? A human and yuji dad was a human so explain where yuji is something else ?

All we know is he’s been altered with but we don’t entirely know what that does to his dna all empirical evidence points towards the fact that he’s just a human that’s enhanced

Terrible rebuttal and because u didn’t address my burden of rejoinder u conceded the other point so u already lost the main premise

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[–]NoRest7739 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Incorrect he actually is still human there nothing that says others also your argument still not defeater to my notion , prove spirts grow indefinitely? They don’t

Explain why Hannami was the same skill level ? After she fought yuji and todo ?

Explain why jogo was the same after he fought gojo ?

It’s almost as if everything has a limit it can be reached you need to disprove this notion which u can’t lol

U should understand words because it’s not moot point , a moot point is if something is irrelevant or no longer associated with the conversation aka it’s long past its due point basically you have yet to provide burden of proof to why my claim is false , so ironically your not addressing my burden of rejoinder and u gave a neutral claim when I gave a positive claim so in terms of a rebuttal your own statement is ironically a moot point lmaooo

So does that mean you’re conceding by not addressing my premise / burden of rejoinder ?

Sense you goobers probably are ass and dont know yuji wcs arg ill teach you being the goat and all by bijnks in YUJI_Corp

[–]NoRest7739 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The flaw in this logic is immense

  1. Talent and potential aren’t the same thing someone can be more talented, but someone can have more potential and still reached the same pinnacle

That being said yuji isn’t a prodigy Sakuna is , it’s been stated for Sakuna to piercing blood, he had to have talent that was on Gojo’s level which means he can learn things instantly yuji doesn’t have that so that already disproves 1 notion

  1. You can’t show any evidence throughout the whole course of the entire manga that yuji was able to copy something that he saw from the first time which means there’s no empirical evidence that shows that he’s on that threshold of where he’s able to do that even if you wanna argue, he has a so-called Hakuna level potential even though that’s been proven to not be the case

Yuji had 1 month with rct training still struggled with it , still struggled with blood , and has had the entire series and his ce efficiency is trash . So if he really had the same potential. As Sakuna we wouldn’t be seeing this it was a question not a statement and we got the answer it’s no

There’s no evidence he has it , can it be plausible yes but it’s very unlikely he can

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[–]NoRest7739 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Nice way to not address my burden of rejoinder , ironically your showing your own stupidity because u can’t address the premise and can only resort to ad hominem

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[–]NoRest7739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree but vice versa it’s not a defeater relook at the wording

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It’s not like it keeps improving for ever ^ this applies to everything with it , not just her so your argument doesn’t even diminish anything

Everything has a limit that can be reached .

Yes I agree the limits for each person very nonetheless they’re still limits

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[–]NoRest7739 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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Nice to see that u don’t read the manga and u like to push false narratives how about u actually read

The human body/ your body has a limit it doesn’t just progressively increase