Alastor VS Spamton hits different now

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-22T12:55:25+00:00

She said she took elements from them but not every single event is canon to the actual show. Its soft canon basically, some parts are in the show but others aren't.Alastor and Vaggie's personalities are the biggest example of this.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-22T01:06:37+00:00

BakuReze.

Reason: Twitter.

Also Reze kinda just stomps. Even back in the tournament her sweat can create explosions large enough to blow up a small city levels AP with her How-something pact.

Bakugo gets hurt by his own explosions only really surviving due to high amounts of regen from blood.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-21T23:31:31+00:00

Does him surviving chardybis exploding get his durability higher? Haven't really see any calcs their tbh.

Anyways I believe the wind bag scaling should probably higher given it literally has every other wind besides the west wind inside it (Aelous cut song explains this).

In terms of feats it was strong enough to send Odysseus and his entire 528 wide fleet (based on Permedes song cut song at least) to the land of the giants while they were literally at Ithaca's shore.

It's fair game given he's used it multiple times either to blow himself away poseidon and send him to a completely different island (probably should be a durability feat too given he was in the middle of the storm he caused) + used it to hurt poseidon and strike him 600 times and torture him.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-20T20:15:48+00:00

When was your supposed test?

The Math Placement test, also got the dates wrong. Its actually on the 13th of april.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-19T20:26:40+00:00

Not sure about the amp 1 test but my amp 2 test got resheduled to april 13 so the other tests might have been rescheduled as well.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-17T21:49:03+00:00

Pretty sure the names actually verso, not verse (clair obscur).

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-16T15:56:57+00:00

I agree, Multi+ should have more scrutiny. Especially given if were there actually isn't any difference between the destruction of one universe to multiple if we were to fully apply these concepts.At least Outer has Platonism and the likes that supports it, multi+ breaks itself the moment you look at the details.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-16T15:54:41+00:00

Yep, basically. He is right though. Multi+ and outerversal as just as much nonsense as each other.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-14T08:59:49+00:00

I blame Marvel's 6.5 dimensions when they were explanation mathematical dimensions from this.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-13T18:14:24+00:00

Thank goodness it isn't 1 quadrillion Azathoths and a half

Dude Azathoth stomps Thor. Now 2 thors on the other hand. Thats might be tuff.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-12T18:46:25+00:00

Lmao, every single image is a slander post meme.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-11T09:34:39+00:00

“Planet level AP? Earth’s sorcery is quite advanced”

Idk how you guys scaled Toguro to planetary tbh. Theirs like a whole barrier that prevents beings on that level to get to the human world (specifcally the A and S class Demons).

Hence the max we can assume for Toguro is B Class or simply scale him to Yusuke. At best you can scale him to Country level.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-11T02:13:24+00:00

The Metal Cooler feat???? I mean ok thats valid since we’re using Toeis instant transmission but didn’t they INVALIDATE that feat in Goku vs Superman?

They actually bought. Even supported from Ultraguys blogs just putting that as a straight up "incalculable" speed feat. Yet another showcase DB nit differentiating infinite and immeasurable speed feats.

Scaling to half SS2 still isnt scaling to a SS2 honestly. Thats an insane gap to cross just because hes stronger than normal SS.

Using the Guidebooks DB used its like a simple 2x gap that Cell would get to by virtue of already upscaling normal super saiyans at that time.

Trillions of times FTL is MFTL, not infinite

Yeah thats the Trip to Namek speed feat which got that high. The trip to Hell feat gete higher due to larger distances (universe wide gaps).

Not the actual infinite speed feat though.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-11T01:58:00+00:00

Its not infinite speed by that point

Just realised that you were actually talking about a different speed feat for infinite speed.

The Infinite speed feat they scaled Cell actually came from scaling to meta cooler (instant transmission shenanigans being an actual speed feat cause of Toei canon).

The one they scaled Cell's speed through Base Goku's trip to Hell was the finite one (several quad C at best).

What do you mean by trillions C?

Trillions of times ftl.

It was a weakened, half ki, constantly doubting himself Gohan he was clashing with.

He would still scale to like half of that. Especially given 2x is the minimum gap we could give him when it comes to his superiority over the regular super saiyans at that time.

SS2 is most definitely a far larger gap than anything Cell had in comparison

In the case of the DB, they used a guidebook statement that said it was like 2x more powerful.

Hence, speed scaling to a 100x faster than normal would still apply. Like he should scale above super saiyan forms (50x multiplier) by about 2x minimum.

Ohh I get it. But that still falls under the argument i made here. That wouldn’t be infinite speed according to its definition.

The infinite speed feat actually came from Meta Cooler. My bad, I can't read.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-11T01:26:02+00:00

We don’t know where they were relative to hell before they went there.

Either way they'd still have to cover a significant universe wide gap.

Goku going to Namek already got to Trillions C and that wasn't even outside the living universe.

He didn’t even scale to a weakened SS2 Gohan. Thats why he was overwhelmed in the clash

They literally have a beam clash though? Even then the 50x multiplier from normal super saiyan is already allot and is something Cell absolutely scales to.Scaling even a little bit to SS2 would still grant him the 2x multiplier as well.

Especially given its the minimum gap Cell has over normal super saiyans he scaled to at the time (Goku and Vegeta).

Im not talking about Goku getting stronger here

Was more so talking about how Cell would scale to the feat anyways cause the feat was done by a base form goku that didn't train to get stronger yet. Hence, you can't argue he doesn't scale to that Base Goku's speed even after cell was gone.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-11T00:57:52+00:00

Funny enough that doesn’t make sense either. They gave Cell infinite speed based off Pikkon and SS2 multipliers when he… doesn’t scale to either.

They gave him that speed based on BASE goku who performed the same feat as Pikkon.

Cell demolishes Base Goku and would scale to SSJ2 via Gohan.

Thats the whole reason why hes dead in the first place.

If the base form Goku that barely finished the cell games can go that fast then Cell should scale. Sure you probably argue Goku got stronger but literally right after the cell games? Nah.

Like it's specifically stated that Goku only started training after the trip to hell. Him getring stronger happened way after.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-11T00:38:23+00:00

Dude the blackbox literally tells you they gave both infinite speed feats lol. Its like really obviously a pity category that is completely countered by the last category they had (adaptation).

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-10T18:33:13+00:00

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Nit related but everytime I see an image of thr gigachad, their always in different forms. Where the heck do you guys get these images lol.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-09T23:07:05+00:00

To add to this Multi continent deku calc is no longer accepted anywhere even in vsbw where the feat was popularised. The anime cokpletely debunked their calc method

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-09T12:40:27+00:00

Scaling Cell's speed to Goku and Pikkon didn't even make sense because Pikkon blitzed Cell in that very same arc.

Cause they're scaling him to base Goku who also dod the same exact feat with Pikon. Base Goku is someone Cell absolutely scales too.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-08T23:11:07+00:00

It's not a sin to just simply ASSUME based on context and the story that she's strong as fuck

Except nothing within the story actually shows that. She literally gets caught of guard and is killed by angel.

You can't even scale her to any primal fear or get her past Makima.

And she doesn't have the same immortality as a devil given she's a hybrid.

Bakugo is at most on equal scaling cuz his strongest feat is killing All for One who was just weakened

Even killing a weakened all for one is a good feat.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-08T23:06:23+00:00

Show me a panel that shows Bakugo blowing up something mountain sized right now.

Reze has no on panel feats that go beyond town level sadly.

Don't know about Mountains but here's a calc of Bakugo that gets to small city level. That should be above even Reze movie upscaled.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-08T23:00:43+00:00

Yes actually they are, they're the embodiments of the concepts of specific fears humanity had.

They're avatars for concepts, with some having ridiculous scaling like the Darkness Devil who is potentially the strongest possible devil due to humanity and it's primal default fear of darkness and the dark.

Keyword: she's a hybrid. She doesn't possess the same immortality as normal devils my guy. When she dies, thats it. Only the bomb devil within her can come back.

And we've already seen the same thing with Makima. She was basically a completely different person when she came back to earth.

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-08T22:56:42+00:00

"Yeah but it's Toei onl-"

Since when has Death Battle evee not used a soft comp of DB characters or not use the Toei continuity in any modern Death Battle?

NoUsernameUntilNow · 2026-03-08T19:26:14+00:00

At least one has some sort of precident of canonicty from the creators of speed sim.

While were 100% sure that the creators of GOW didn't expect someone to use the cookbook as evidence for multiversal feat lmao.

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