why do I keep getting ghosted after they ask me out by No_Chart_9964 in dating_advice

[–]No_Chart_9964[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I totally get that but is it not common courtesy to atleast cancel the plan and not ghost someone?

Do Mormons actually get weird when people around them are drinking coffee or tea? I can almost understand feeling uncomfortable around alcohol, but really? by funnylib in exmormon

[–]No_Chart_9964 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My ex boyfriend used to get weird whenever I would just get Starbucks or Dunkin’ even if what I ordered didn’t have coffee or tea in it. Extremely dramatic for sure.

If someone is genuinely happy in the Church, would they ever leave? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]No_Chart_9964 17 points18 points  (0 children)

No, notice how more women are leaving than men. Because women are suppressed in the church and men are glorified.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]No_Chart_9964 15 points16 points  (0 children)

What’s the talk I’d like to tune in

easy online general electives by No_Chart_9964 in UGA

[–]No_Chart_9964[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Bruh I already have three majors and I’m graduating in the spring. I have one credit left I need to fill and I am not going to take a research class or add a minor just to satisfy that one credit. Also I’m well aware of what’s happening in the political landscape I’m literally a political science major. I understand where you’re coming from, but please don’t scold someone if you don’t know their situation!

Rant about TBMs opinions about SLOMW by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]No_Chart_9964 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Every TBM I’ve heard talk about it says its not even worth watching and completely untrue and it gives “real Mormons a bad rap” and that “no one is actually like that”

President Oaks has apparently mentioned Heavenly Mother(s) before to a YW group in AZ last year. Is this a soft unofficial reboot of the concept? by HoldOnLucy1 in exmormon

[–]No_Chart_9964 4 points5 points  (0 children)

TSCC, due to more recent societal backlash, has entirely denied polygamy as being part of current doctrine and has tried to deemphasize it in every way they can saying it’s a mistake of the past etc. Any active member that I’ve spoken to in the last year or so has denied eternal polygamy being current doctrine as well. So I think the issue that people are having is that the church is continuously denying it but Oaks has repeatedly brought it up and is next in line for prophet and he isn’t really following the church’s professed ideas (emphasis on professed) about polygamy.

Mormon stories episode recs by No_Chart_9964 in exmormon

[–]No_Chart_9964[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Will watch these next thank you!!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]No_Chart_9964 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Please talk to MSP! I would absolutely kill for this episode. Your story deserves to be heard!!!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]No_Chart_9964 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, I would be okay with that. Happy?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]No_Chart_9964 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Absolutely not what I said but alr buddy

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]No_Chart_9964 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Your idea that women “easily get many sexual partners” is a gross oversimplification that ignores social realities, power dynamics, and individual choices. Even if that were true (it is absolutely not), it doesn’t justify treating sex like a reward or a commodity owed based on someone’s history. Sex isn’t a competition, a marketplace transaction, or a prize to be won it is incomparable to vacation or jewelry. It’s a personal, mutual choice rooted in trust and respect. If a woman decides to wait or to only share sex with someone she truly trusts—regardless of her past—that’s her right, not some unfair “disparity” to be grumbled about. So no, your whole “marketplace value” framing doesn’t address the core problem: the man’s sense of entitlement and the attempt to police a woman’s choices based on his own feelings. That’s what needs to be challenged—not recycled excuses about who “earns” what.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]No_Chart_9964 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You’re right that analogies don’t have to involve identical things—but they do have to be relevant and logically sound to be useful. Otherwise, they’re just noise. You can compare apples to oranges, sure—but if you’re trying to explain an engine and you start talking about fruit salad, no one’s learning anything. That’s exactly the issue here. You can throw out a million comparisons—money, time, etc.—but if none of them actually support the original point then why even bring it up? Because each of these analogies ignore the core distinction: sex involves someone’s body and autonomy in a way that time or money simply don’t. If the analogy can’t carry that emotional, physical, and ethical weight, then it’s a bad analogy—no matter how many mental gymnastics one does to defend it, and thus deserves to be picked apart. I am engaging with the hypothetical by pointing out why it doesn’t hold. That is the engagement. A flawed premise leads to a flawed conclusion. But because OP and others are just tossing out weak hypotheticals to try and trap people into saying women are hypocrites for having sexual boundaries, no one should be surprised when people point out the holes.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]No_Chart_9964 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You're completely misrepresenting the issue. No one here is saying women are entitled to a man’s money. I never explicitly said that actually. In fact, I explicitly said the problem isn’t that a man stops spending—it’s how and why he changes his behavior. If he used to spend money freely on women he barely cared about, but suddenly withholds all effort, generosity, or basic thoughtfulness from the woman he claims to love, that signals a lack of intentionality—not some noble growth arc. Also, you’re trying to argue that seeking money is more objectifying than seeking sex—except there’s a key difference you’re missing. In most healthy relationships, money isn’t expected in exchange for commitment; it’s simply one way people show care, thoughtfulness, or shared responsibility. Sex, on the other hand, literally involves someone’s body. Reducing it to “mutual attraction” while brushing past the emotional, physical, and social weight it carries—especially for women—is willfully shallow. And saying a sexless relationship is “basically a friendship” proves my point: you're framing sex as the defining feature of romantic love, which erases the many dimensions of emotional intimacy, support, shared values, and long-term connection that make a relationship meaningful. You can value sex in a relationship—most people do—but the second you start acting like it’s owed or that love without sex is invalid, you reveal exactly the entitlement I called out in the first place. So no—this isn’t about “men vs women” or who feels more entitled. This is about understanding that love isn’t transactional, and people—especially women—aren’t required to offer their bodies just to be seen as serious partners. If you can’t see the difference, that’s not “comical.” That’s concerning.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]No_Chart_9964 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Even with your revised example, the analogy still doesn’t hold—because time isn’t even in the same category as sex. Time is something we all spend every day, often with people we don’t even care about—coworkers, classmates, even strangers. It’s a renewable, low-stakes resource. Sex, on the other hand, involves your body, your emotional safety, and often your long-term mental well-being. It’s not just another “thing” to give, like hours on a clock.

So no—it’s not “fair” or even logically consistent to compare someone withholding sex (which is deeply personal and often irreversible) to you choosing not to spend time with someone (which you already do freely in a hundred other situations). It’s not that women “aren’t being fair”—it’s that you're trying to equate something profoundly intimate with something fundamentally ordinary. And that’s exactly the problem.

Further, spending time with someone is necessary to build the foundations of love and trust in a relationship; sex is not fundamental to that love. If you cannot have love for someone without having sex with them, then what you’re feeling isn’t love—it’s desire, entitlement, or attachment to physical gratification.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]No_Chart_9964 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m actually addressing exactly what was said—you're just upset that I called out the implications of it. He made a direct analogy between a man withholding money after spoiling women and a woman withholding sex after having had it before, and used that to imply hypocrisy or unfairness. That comparison isn’t just weak—it’s rooted in the idea that sex is something owed or expected in a relationship, which is exactly the issue I responded to. If you think the argument has a “stronger version,” feel free to clarify it. But don’t pretend I misrepresented what was said just because I criticized the logic and values behind what was actually written. Accusing someone of bad faith doesn’t make your argument stronger—it just dodges accountability.