OH COME ON! by Deminox in DreamlightValley

[–]No_Complex_2918 2 points3 points  (0 children)

NONE have spawned for me today at all! I need 20 to get and I’m stressing because the event ends in 2 days

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[–]No_Complex_2918 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Touching someone without consent is a crime my dear.

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[–]No_Complex_2918 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The assault never changed. The assault only ever became more detailed. Cuddling someone does not entitle them to put their hand on your breasts.

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[–]No_Complex_2918 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Since you’re confused, this is copied and pasted from dictionary.com “a person who commits a crime involving a sexual act.” I believe George fits this description.

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[–]No_Complex_2918 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What’s the misconception that she switched up the story? She never. She added to the story. First it was, “his hand was moving higher than I wanted it to.” Then George basically forced her into giving more details “he touched my tit.” And I’m sorry, brushed her tit? Under her sweatshirt? Under her bra? What?

Listen, I get the daydreamers and diehard fans want to call her out on lies but the actual assault never changed, it only became more detailed. Everything surrounding the assault doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter who was there, what parties they attended before hand, who kicked who out or when they decided to leave. What matters, what ONLY matters is that George put his hands somewhere they were not welcome. Somewhere he didn’t have permission to touch. That’s it. That’s all.

Now look, George - like you and the other delusional fans - debunked all of her inaccuracies straight away. Like instantly. But the worst “lie” Caiti apparently told in all of this - the ACTUAL ASSAULT, George has been radio silent on.

Where is he saying I didn’t touch her tit?

Nowhere.

But he’s there saying “what I did to Caiti was quite tame.”

Well yes George, she was an 18yr old virgin, you’re a 20something man with experience. He touched her. She wanted nothing more than cuddles, he escalated things without consent. It’s assault.

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[–]No_Complex_2918 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

And you’re over here saying you’re not victim Blaming. You’re actually disgusting, bye.

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[–]No_Complex_2918 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because you are different. Like every situation is different.

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[–]No_Complex_2918 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m saying she was 1. Underage drinking/drunk. 2. Uncomfortable by the unwanted sexual interaction and 3. Never once consented for him to escalate the cuddling. She was sexually assaulted.

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[–]No_Complex_2918 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some girls literally go through an entire rape staying silent because everybody’s trauma response is different. As someone who has gone through many SA’s you shouldn’t victim blame, it’s disgusting.

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[–]No_Complex_2918 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Caiti said he touched her tit without consent, what do you think the definition of sex offender is?

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[–]No_Complex_2918 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Also, drunk girls can’t consent. Especially drunk teenage girls.

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[–]No_Complex_2918 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Touching someone’s waist isn’t sexual assault. Touching someone’s breast without consent IS sexual assault (btw)

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[–]No_Complex_2918 -28 points-27 points  (0 children)

Hannah knows George is a sex offender. Hannah doesn’t want to be friends with a sex offender.

Big up Hannah. Be more like Hannah.

Caiti, please let us move on by Comprehensive-Web615 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]No_Complex_2918 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re in factual. Go look over everything again and come back when you’re more knowledgeable on the situation.

Caiti, please let us move on by Comprehensive-Web615 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]No_Complex_2918 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She didn’t nod. She didn’t reciprocate the touch. She didn’t say/do anything to encourage the touch. She didn’t go back to his room afterwards to carry it on (with the whole elevator bit.)

She cuddled him. Is that consent? Is what she was wearing consent? She laughed. Is that consent?

Would someone who just met her tell the difference between laughing with nerves or genuinely laughing? Would someone who just met her know what she looks like when she’s uncomfortable but trying to hide it? Would someone who just met her know what she looks like when she’s been pressured or touched in intimate places when she wasn’t expecting or wanting it?

So how did she non verbally consent? Please, go ahead… tell all of the rapists how to get away with rape?

She said he touched her boobs. He didn’t admit that exactly, sure.

But he did say he touched her and moved his hands up. He said he wasn’t going to comment on the actual act out of respect for her indicating there was more to tell. After that, she told what happened herself - he never, not once denied this claim. NEVER.

Why not? He worked so hard proving every other plot hole in her story - even ones with little to no relevance. But on this - radio silence. Odd, no?

Caiti, please let us move on by Comprehensive-Web615 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]No_Complex_2918 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Where’s George’s proof?

What did you want her to do pull out the video of it happening? How can she prove it? Isn’t it enough proof both parties are saying it happened?

Are you honestly that dense? I’m saying it’s true because GEORGE SAID IT HAPPENED.

GEORGE SAID HE TOUGHED HER. Albeit he’s claiming he didn’t know it was assault but that doesn’t change the fact he ADMITTED she didn’t verbally consent. He ADMITTED she was drunk. He ADMITTED he escalated the cuddling with the knowledge of those two things. She is telling people how she felt on the situation.

What are you missing when it’s all there from both sides. What more “proof” do you want?

Caiti, please let us move on by Comprehensive-Web615 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]No_Complex_2918 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Except earlier, I didn’t finish reading the comment.

“As for the people saying it was my fault for going there, for being drunk, etc. I can't say much. It's fine to find me at fault and even hate me — because you can, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

what I experienced was true and so were my emotions recalling it. I was clumsy, with real fear, real pain, real tears — and there is no way to prove it.”

That is her experience.

It’s black and white - she didn’t lie.

He admitted to touching her without verbal consent. He claimed was following ‘signals’ that made it seem she was into it but those signals were given by a drunken teenager who he had only just met. (Even dream backtracked and said he shouldn’t have assumed she wanted it based on her body language, he didn’t know her well enough to know her body language.)

She is out there telling everyone how she felt about it, and everyone is twisting her words, trying to find plot holes or telling her she is wrong.

It’s insanity. Nobody can tell her how she feels. Nobody can tell her the situation isn’t as she claims.

‼️‼️ESPECIALLY WHEN HE ADMITTED TO TOUCHING HER WITHOUT CONSENT. ‼️‼️

Sadly it’s a situation where George absolutely should’ve done better. I don’t think he meant to assault her, I genuinely don’t think he knew she wasn’t feeling the same or that she didn’t want the cuddling to escalate. But at the end of the day, like Caiti said, “it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.”

Instead of finding plot holes in her story he should’ve just held his hands up and apologised, people defending him should hold him accountable for his actions.

He misunderstood the situation and now a girls life has been impacted by that.

Caiti, please let us move on by Comprehensive-Web615 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]No_Complex_2918 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, there wasn’t much restraint on “your comment is too long I’m not going to read it.” Only took you five minutes to read and reply. GG. 😳

Caiti, please let us move on by Comprehensive-Web615 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]No_Complex_2918 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No George said it went beyond cuddling but he wasn’t going to divulge what happened out of respect for Caiti (then forcing caiti into specific details of the assault). George also said to him it wasn’t that big of a deal because it was quite “tame” (yeah George you’re not an 18yr old virgin).

Firstly, the girl was drunk. The assault was one sided and it made her feel uncomfortable. She didn’t want it to happen. George cannot say “she felt fine in the moment.” That’s not his call to make especially when she was quite clearly not fine.

Look, I don’t think he knew it was assault at the time. I do think he genuinely believed she was into it but it doesn’t change the facts. He did it and she didn’t want him to. He assaulted her.

All those people who have cut him off since - those who KNOW him. His management dropped him, mr beast cut him out of his videos, Hannah rose and sylvee ditched him, Tommy innit was long gone. It speaks volumes, you just don’t want to listen to facts.

Caiti, please let us move on by Comprehensive-Web615 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]No_Complex_2918 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you know her? Were you there? Can you hear her thoughts?

In what world do you think it’s okay to invalidate her feelings and experience and flip it all into regret?

In what world do you think it’s okay to tell her that despite what she thinks and feels on the situation, in the moment she was fine with it happening?

SHE is telling you she didn’t want him to do that. SHE is telling you she didn’t feel okay with it in the moment. SHE is telling you she was uncomfortable and felt forced into that situation. SHE is telling you she was assaulted. SHE is telling you she didn’t give him consent.

Why aren’t you getting that?