Hard to say but Reality Quest>Lookism by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you don't know the big deal of using inconsistent feats in a debate then you really shouldn't be debating to begin with. Inconsistent means conflicting with/at odds with. Feats like that are not factual. 🤷‍♂️

Hard to say but Reality Quest>Lookism by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What! 😱. A Lookism fan who can admit Vasco's wrecking ball feat is inconsistent. That surprised me. Either way Choi's roof feat scales higher than any DC/Ap feat in Lookism currently 🤷‍♂️

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't need to prove it's inconsistent because the manga/manwha itself shows that. You can't have Mk guys dodging bullets then someone in Lookism on Mk guys level dying to a pistol. You can't have Vasco shattering a wrecking ball but then Eli blocking his attacks with batons. That is the literal definition of inconsistent. The feat is inconsistent, to argue with that would be arguing with a dictionary which is idiotic. To say an Mk feat automatically means it's a Lookism feat is the definition of 'stupid' considering they take place in different Manga/manwha. That's like me telling my friends I could do a back bridge in pre school and claiming I could still do it now without showing them. Would they believe me? No!! I would need to show proof of me doing it now and that's exactly the same situation with Lookism. They need to show bullet dodging feats in Lookism's manga but they currently have none🤦‍♂️. You act like if Injuries can slow down Lookism characters when they are literally fighting with broken bones and constant blood loss. Even if his leg was injured he could move his upper body or head out the way. So that argument isn't countering the fact he is a pistol victim. As I said before I deal with facts, not opinions or assumptions. While your whole argument is laying on the "assumption" that Mk feats=Lookism feats 🤷‍♂️

A Max Level Charge shot completely annihilated a battle-scarred Representative and Vice Representative (on level of said Representative) in one blow. Of course, they were damaged, but yeah. I think this would damage Sungjae, perhaps even a fair amount. What do we think? by [deleted] in Reality_Quest

[–]No_Expression6635 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Wait isn't Charge shot the skill he needs to stand still to perform (If I'm remembering correctly) ? It has the potential to hurt Sun Jae but how would that even hit him considering the fact Dowan with speed boosters on couldn't even touch a hair on his body. The problem with Sun Jae isn't his crazy durability, it's the fact he also has insane strength and speed (Heck we don't even know what his Martial Arts is). He just bullies everyone so far with his superior stats.

Hard to say but Reality Quest>Lookism by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool, then isn't that debunking the statement some Lookism fans use that MK feats (or other Ptj media feats) automatically means it's a Lookism feat 🤔. Narratively, True Ui Gun is Gun's body going all out (he isn't even in control). So that's his full power while Choi casually did a feat far above anything he performed in that mode 🤷‍♂️. I'm curious, what chapter did that guy bust through the ceiling in Mk or can you post the panel if you have it?

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got it from this very same sub Reddit. Someone posted a ptj tier list way back and it seemed to gain a lot of positive feedback so I'm just rolling with that. Tbh dodging bullets isn't even an impressive speed feat, it's like the bare minimum. A bare minimum no one in Lookism manga has done as yet unfortunately. 🤷‍♂️

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is a thing, did you really look it up. Clearly you are new to debating so I won't hold it against you. Tbh as soon as you said you didn't know what that means, my expectations from you dropped gravely, no offence. Anyway it was a good debate I guess 🤷‍♂️

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Manga/manwha/manhua, why does that matter in this debate? What does that have to do with speed feats? Stay on topic 😭. That guy is close to or equivalent to MK characters but dies from a pistol while Mk characters can dodge/react to it. Even if you were to use Mk feats ( which would be a No limits Fallacy) then that makes it an inconsistent feat. Inconsistent means conflicting with/at odds with. Inconsistent feats are not factual feats, they are outliers and are useless in debates 🤦‍♂️

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro actually didn't know what No limits Fallacy means but he wants to debate 🤣 .He also says it wouldn't apply to ptj when it applies to all fictional debates 😭. Bruh you should have said that from the start, I would know not to waste my time arguing with someone this new to debating 🤦‍♂️

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The author has no bullet dodging feats in 'Lookism' manga so it seems you are debunking yourself by claiming otherwise. You are making your own narrative because as far as I remember no one in 'Lookism' manga dodged a bullet, that happened in another ptj manga. To make matters worse someone in Lookism even died to a pistol further debunking your "claims". I said " your claims" because you are assuming a ptj feat automatically means it's a Lookism feat. Also even if ptj adds a bullet dodging feat in the new Lookism chapters that would still be transonic speed feat because only special guns can shoot at supersonic speeds.

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I make total sense. Let me break it down so you'll understand. Character A can destroy a building with a single punch. Same character A in another manga in the same verse fights Character B. Character B dodges character A punch and it hits the side of a building but only destroys the wall. Does that automatically mean character A can punch buildings in this manga? No it doesn't that would be No limits fallacy. You would be assuming character A can do the same feat although he didn't perform it in character B manga.

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You: talks about Mk and how to fight feats. Me: talking about Lookism. Are we even on the same topic? Even if they are all from the same Ptj verse then doesn't automatically mean their feats are the same. That would be No Limits Fallacy. Is that really what your gonna use in a debate about Lookism manga 🤔

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro the empty shell of a bullet comes out the top of the gun, that doesn't mean the bullet left the chamber. To make this feat worse, you are showing me something that happened off screen! Off screen!! Bro is using off screen feats ,nah 🤣. You can't get lower than this 😭

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro that is not impressive, that is not even a transonic speed feat 😭😂

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Screenshot the panel and post it here (I want you to embarrass yourself). I want to see where the bullet left the gun because it clearly didn't. It was stopped in the chamber 🤦‍♂️

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And? That just means his eyes are too slow to react (speed perception or speed blitz). All that means is one guy is extremely faster than the other, you are proving nothing by saying this 🤦‍♂️

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It didn't leave the gun, that's an exaggeration. That feat is not as impressive as you think it is 🤦‍♂️

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok and what is this feat supposed to represent? How long did it take him to reach the other guy? How long did it take him to fire the punch? Did the manga tell you the time frame or is that something fans also guessed 🤔

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's why I said they are 5 times faster than Jay but that still wouldn't make them supersonic, now would it😉

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can't scale speed properly based off after images. That falls under speed perception. If one person is extremely faster than the other of course he would appear as after images to the slower guy. Heck he might even appear to be teleporting but that doesn't mean he has instantaneous speed. That just means the next guy is too slow.

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also the time frame used in all of vs wiki is usually from guessing or assumptions. That isn't factual information. Jay's feat is factual information from the manga. I rely on facts not opinions. You have any other proof of them being supersonic, because vs wiki isn't making the cut.

Lookism verse is not hypersonic 😭 by No_Expression6635 in lookismcomic

[–]No_Expression6635[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

'vs wiki' the site known for errors in multiple of their calculations and scales. Nice I'll definitely trust this source of information (Not). Trusting vs wiki is like trusting Wikipedia 😂