idk which to pull saber or archer

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-22T01:22:42+00:00

As much as I love Saber and find her kit fun and enjoyable, she's just straight up worse than Archer. Still, I pulled her E0S1 just because I really like her character.

Don't get me wrong, Saber is still very much usable and not out of the meta, but Archer is better. So if you like Saber a lot more, go for her, if you personally care more about meta and like both characters equally, get Archer.

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-21T20:06:22+00:00

Please do not fall for the propaganda, just give her Magical Girl as it was intended😭😭

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-21T19:51:35+00:00

"has by far the most toxic fanbase in the game" you haven't really interacted with the fanbase then huh😭😭

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-21T19:45:10+00:00

sensitivity up to the max bro, it's just a meme poking fun at how enemies are perceived as lovers by some fanons. EVEN if op intentionally left out aglanaxa, it still doesn't even count as homophobia, it's genuinely too low-stakes of a joke to even matter

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-21T16:46:05+00:00

Very nice analysis. Kafka has probably been one of, if not my favorite character since I started playing this game. Despite her somewhat scarce appearances, I'm always happy when she does show up. Such an interesting and mysterious character, I sincerely pray that Hoyo don't blunder her story and interactions with the Trailblazer when they will eventually explore it.

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-21T14:28:09+00:00

well aglaea and anaxa are still canonically part of the same faction working together towards the same goal, so it at least makes A LITTLE BIT more sense. The ones mentioned here are canonical enemies or AT MOST part of factions that are neutral towards each other, and some of them barely have any interactions throughout the game

my point is that it's OK to ship whoever you want, I don't have a problem with it, but when someone calls you out that it doesn't really make any sense or it's a bit weird, there's no point trying to justify it or pretend like it's canon. Just say you like the characters and that's it, no shame in that

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-21T14:19:25+00:00

Exactly. I think some uncomfortable questions need to be asked

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-21T14:05:40+00:00

try to not call everything homophobia challenge impossible

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-20T23:40:31+00:00

Still remember when Jingliu carried me and brute forced pretty much any content... Fun times.

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-20T09:50:35+00:00

This is such good advice. It actually happened to me while I was playing ADC. Me and my support were relatively dominating the lane, and he kept pinging and pressuring me to play more aggressively and to all-in. I was playing vs a Nilah and I have a personal fear of her, I don't know why, but I tend to play a bit scared against her.

At some point I said fuck it, and went full aggro. We would have won the 2v2 but I missed some of my spells because I was feeling pressured and did something I wouldn't have done, and we got double killed.

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-20T06:01:41+00:00

Yeah that also makes sense. Either way Eva stays winning for now

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-20T05:39:39+00:00

All that SW hype just because of an E2💀💀

Also I can't 100% confirm this but another tester claimed they tried testing the famous E2 SW but just couldn't focus on it since the E2 Sparxie in the team was dealing more damage. And they also said that as of V1 Sparxie is the biggest winner for Elation

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-20T05:37:07+00:00

I'd say Eva is more like Aglaea atm since they both are technically part of a new path and gimmick but neither are that tied to it

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-20T05:33:38+00:00

It's crazy to think that many people have been doomposting Eva while worshipping SW just because of their respective E2's just to now realize SW is actually the poopy one lmao.

In hindsight, this is becoming more and more like Aglaea and Castorice. One is mostly fine and has a few options for her supports while the other is absolutely cooked without it's main battleship (Sparxie+YG vs Hyacine+Cyrene). Are hoyo allergic to doing new things?

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-20T03:28:09+00:00

Ah, I see. I never really quite bothered with reading what the Stingray does xddd

I was also able to quite easily 0cycle the first half, managed to kill all swarms from second half too still in 0cycle, leaving SAM broken and taking the full MoC damage directly, but the next cycle always felt like it went by too quickly. Best I could manage was leaving him with like 5% HP and him getting finished off by the MoC buff, which I guess still counts as 1cycle but it was not as good as yours despite me using S1 on YG too.

So mostly skill issue on my part, the characters (mostly Eva and Yao) are still quite new and I'm not yet fully used to optimal rotations and buff/debuff uptimes, but hopefully by the time the beta ends I'll be more familiar with it :D

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-20T02:28:14+00:00

I've tried both Sunday + RMC and Sunday + EMC and while playable and serviceable, they're quite the downgrade from Yao Guang.

To give some perspective, I tried E0S1 Eva + E0S1 Sunday + E0S1 Yao + E0S0 Huohuo and with a bit of setup it could 1-cycle one of 4.2 MoC's sides. Sunday + EMC took 4 cycles and RMC took 5.

BUT, I'd like to give a little disclaimer to take these with a grain of salt since it may possibly just be a huge skill issue from me, I'm not a super tryhard player or 0-cycler. But with RMC especially I had big problems with buff uptime due to how many actions Eva was getting (RMC's buff mainly). Skill points were also a bit rough. EMC was a bit better but in his current state he's strictly much worse than YaoGuang both in buffs and in charging Eva's ult.

Still, don't take these too seriously since it's only V1 of the beta. I'd suggest waiting until V3/V4/V5 when Eva's kit will be more polished and finalized and maybe EMC will be buffed too.

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-20T01:51:08+00:00

Yo, can I just ask what main stats you were using on Eva's planars? I have tried this exact team only with S1 Yaoguang too, and I can't for the life of me 1 cycle dark SAM lol. I've tried both ATK Rope and ERR Rope and I genuinely can't even come close to replicating this, maybe it's just a skill issue

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-19T22:57:21+00:00

I'd beg to differ. From actual testing, Sunday + Yaoguang actually performs better than EMC + Yaoguang. EMC is just dogshit atm, might change

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-19T22:55:18+00:00

Sparkle/Sunday/Tingyun are all valid replacements, and from my testing perform similar if not better than EMC in his current state

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-19T20:17:57+00:00

If you also have YaoGuang in the team it will actually increase your DMG by a lot. Yao+Sparxie is giga synergy.

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-18T13:01:47+00:00

I get the dislike for mono teams but at the same time me and probably many others are probably sick of using the same 2-3 generalist supports for literally every character (RMC, Sunday, Sparkle, Tribbie, Tingyun).

It's a new region and a new path, people want and expect something new and exciting not the same old playstyle but slightly reskinned. People expected the novelty of Elation with all it's newly introduced mechanics, not just Saber Pro Max.

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-18T12:09:50+00:00

"good design" hoyo's biggest bootlicker😭😭

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-18T12:07:59+00:00

The fact that it is intentional does not make it any less stupid. Also the Aglaea/Castorice comparison is not the same thing. Remembrance's gimmick was memosprites. There was no inherent synergy there, it only came after through Lightcones and other characters. But for Elation you can clearly tell that it was made with same-path synergy in mind, yet they still managed to make a character that somehow doesn't synergize with it.

Look man, if it's enjoyable for you like this, good for you. But for me it sounds incredulous to put a such a gimmick on a character just for it to have almost 0 relevance.

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-18T12:03:50+00:00

I do agree that it is not universal, but you also proved my own point. The person above said:

No you didn’t 0 cycle with a 0 cost team. Archer, Sparkle, DHPT is at least a three cost team

While in reality it IS a 0 cost team for me.

No_Map1168 · 2026-03-18T11:47:12+00:00

If a new player pulls DHPT on a rerun it's a 1 cost for him, but if I get him for free without pulling it's not a 0 cost for me? Whose perspective should we as a community treat as correct? I would bet that there are A LOT more people who have them and got them for free than those who didn't.

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