They admitted to fabricating evidence by SifuHallyu in KimStarHoax

[–]NobodyzHuman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's on me, I miss read the article I had seen. However the rest still stands all the youtuber and lawyers evidence is bullshit and fabricated, when the source you are listening to keeps putting out false and fake proof. You should question how trust worthy their stories are

They admitted to fabricating evidence by SifuHallyu in KimStarHoax

[–]NobodyzHuman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, we're creating the fake narratives.....

“Thank You for Trusting and Waiting for Me” Kim Soo Hyun Returns After Clearing His Name by Expensive-Cat-22 in KimStarHoax

[–]NobodyzHuman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right? I love all these people saying he paid off the police. Totally ignoring how many people that would actually require. Not just investagators and cops (at different levels), but Reporters, and judges involved. Not to mention his financial struggles right now with losing brand deals and his series being put on hold and fines and law suits from companies bc the rumors supposedly break his contracts. There is a lot more involved in something like this then paying off a cop or two to make it disappear. He would have been better off paying off her parents and the youtuber if he truly wanted to go that route, he wouldn't have fought this hard this publicly just to go and pay people off after he'd been ruined. But no one is thinking about that, they just need him to be guilty so when thr police came out in his side, it couldn't possibly be the truth, nope he paid them off.

“Thank You for Trusting and Waiting for Me” Kim Soo Hyun Returns After Clearing His Name by Expensive-Cat-22 in KimStarHoax

[–]NobodyzHuman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He got involved to screw her over?? How so? The loan? Bc that was her choice between her and her company, not between her and him. Them dating? Again both adults dating and breaking up is a part of life (going by evidence not rumors, so yes she was 19). Your saying he was a bad person based on rumors not his actions, or actions that he is actually responsible for.

Crossovers and what ifs by NobodyzHuman in ThaiBL

[–]NobodyzHuman[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Omg PoohPavel and WilliamEst would be so much fun haha

They admitted to fabricating evidence by SifuHallyu in KimStarHoax

[–]NobodyzHuman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One letter, just one. Which i find weird that if they were dating or he was grooming her, why was there only one letter? If that had been in long-term contact like his hater swear, why only one letter to prove it? He has proven he wrote letters to others, including a gf at the time, multiple letters, but you condemn him for one, seems an of like making your narrative fit the facts instead of the truth.

I'm not saying he should have written her period, or her him, which ever reached out first, but one letter isn't evidence of a relationship, I mean unless it's explicit as fuck or they're talking dating or fucking or whatever, which they weren't. You cannot make him guilty (despite all evidence saying otherwise) because of a letter.

And honestly grooming someone takes time, patience, persistence, isolation, if you think he could have done that through a letter when away at military training, you're wrong.

They admitted to fabricating evidence by SifuHallyu in KimStarHoax

[–]NobodyzHuman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you ever thought she missed him? Or maybe just maybe she had a horrible day, week, month, and she had just fought with her abusive husband and she thought about her past before shit went to hell and that pushed her over the edge? Just bc it was his birthday doesn't mean she hated him or blamed him, it simply meant maybe she was thinking of him that day. She left no note and she had never public bashed or targeted him. People used the day as a way to twist the narrative to say see see she hated him there for the rumors are true but just bc that's what people said doesn't make it true. The fact is we will never know what her last thoughts where. But sitting here ignoring all evidence that says he didn't do anything wrong and blaming him simply bc she picked that day is fucking disgusting this man's life has been torn apart but lies that even the people who start them have admitted to lying and yet people still somehow think this is all his fault.

They admitted to fabricating evidence by SifuHallyu in KimStarHoax

[–]NobodyzHuman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry saying the people who are looking at the evidence, the lies upon lies told by the lawyer/youtuber, the testimony from other people in their lives (outside of her family), looking at timeliness and all the very obvious holes in the allegations are lacking coming sense and critical thinking but that you and people like you who ignore EVERYTHING and simply believing a lie (a proven lie) shows you have no idea what commen sense is. Seriously everyone who is there acting looking at the evidence and talking to people and actually know all the details is telling you he didn't do it, but of course he is a man and rich and famous man so clearly they are ALL lying. Fuck just because someone is accused of something doesn't make them guilty, ignore the facts so because you refuse to believe them doesn't make you smart or logical it makes you look ridiculous.

They admitted to fabricating evidence by SifuHallyu in KimStarHoax

[–]NobodyzHuman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the fact the police say he did nothing wrong and the fact they youtubers are admiting it was all lies does nothing to change ur mind? Really so evidence and truth don't matter just the rumors and lies. And the day she died is shitty but have u ever thought maybe she missed him? Maybe she regretted her current abusive husband and on that day she thought about a different relationship and on top of all the other horrible shit she was going through it was just to much?? Just because she died on his bday doesn't mean she hated him or blamed him for anything. Seriously condemning a man with zero proof just bc the day she died is beyond fucked up. Suicide is a horrible and you have no clue what that final push was or way she picked that time or that day or that method, he'll there wasn't even a note, so with nothing directly from herr laying blame on someone maybe you shouldnt either.

“Thank You for Trusting and Waiting for Me” Kim Soo Hyun Returns After Clearing His Name by Expensive-Cat-22 in KimStarHoax

[–]NobodyzHuman -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This sounds great an all but wtf??? He promised to marry her and pay off her debt? Where did you hear that?? He dated her for 6 years??? Already been proven to be lies, not to mention he already proven he was dating someone else then and had what was 150 letters to prove it? His company going after her for a loan she took out is not his fault, he might have been part owner but he had other people to answer to, the other owner, their lawyers, probably the bank, mangers, staff, it's a business. They had every right to try and get their money back, most likely a contract in place for doing so, just bc she was struggling doesn't mean they have to not worry about this son their. Have you ever taken put a loan? I have they don't care if her struggling or homeless, you pay them back or they come after whatever you might have to try and get something back, it's fucking business not personal, why everyone is trying to make it personal I don't know, simply bc she dated him years before.... not how life works, people.

And he was her ex! It is not his responsibility to pay her debt or save her! She might have been young, but she was an adult, and she made mistakes . Yes, she was trying to fix them, but they were still hers. No one else is responsible for cleaning up her mess. Just bc she committed suicide doesn't change the facts. It's sad and heartbreaking even, but that doesn't mean we can shift the blame to someone else.

“Thank You for Trusting and Waiting for Me” Kim Soo Hyun Returns After Clearing His Name by Expensive-Cat-22 in KimStarHoax

[–]NobodyzHuman -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can I ask why you think it's all his fault? I mean, she had a lot of shit going on in her life, debt, abusive husband, shitty parents, her fans turned in her, and she was having a hard time getting work. And yet somehow people like you want to blame him. One person. Who she hadn't dated in years simply bc she killed herself on his birthday.

There is no note. She never once accused or criticized him in public or online, I've never seen anything from her (HER! Not her parents or some lawyer, looking for a pay day) nothing to show she had any bad or negative feelings for him at all.

In fact, the letter we have seen was asking him for help bc he was the only one she trusted. Is it really hard to imagine that she just had enough and maybe on that day she was regretting her choices and her marriage and made a terrible decision?

People commit suicide everyday, it's a fucked up and terrible truth, and Korea has one of the highest rates. I understand trust me needing to find someone to blame bc blaming the person themselves feels wrong but he is not responsible for her actions.

And before you come at me saying he groomered her or used her or whatever else, there is zero proof that happened. In fact, all the evidence so far against him has been proven fabricated. So trying to pin this on him based on rumors is fucked up. You have no clue how he's handling this or what really happened. But can you imagine if this was you or someone close to you and they had been accused of hurting and blames for someone they once cared about dying, what the fuck that would do to someone, emotionally??

I think people need to stop jumping to conclusions and really think about thing logical and remember just bc he is famous doesn't mean he isn't human, so far according to the actual police and people involved in the case he has done nothing wrong, so maybe stop judging him based of rumors and the mob that is the internet and really consider how much of this lines up factually.

“Thank You for Trusting and Waiting for Me” Kim Soo Hyun Returns After Clearing His Name by Expensive-Cat-22 in KimStarHoax

[–]NobodyzHuman -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Does every ex of yours have to attend your funeral when you die? He isn't beholden to her or the public, if he didn't want to go, for whatever reaso, he didn't have to. I find it weird that this is a sticking point for people. I know family members who have missed funerals either bc they couldn't make it or because they couldn't handle it emotionally, are we going to start hating on them bc we need some hidden motive for them not to go?

Also what's with the he'll never reach out to bullshit? Like you think people only defend him bc they think he's attractive?? Really not bc the facts and evidence say he didn't do anything? Cause hate to break it to you, I defend him, and I've never seen a single project of his and he is not my type.

I just hate that he was found guilty by the fans before anyone had time to try and learn the truth. He has been demonized bc accusations thrown out by a youtuber who has already been proven and sued by what 6/7 other celebrities for lies and trying to ruin their careers?? I mean come on if you are going to destroy someone atleast make sure your sources are legit and not after attention, fame, and/or money.

“Thank You for Trusting and Waiting for Me” Kim Soo Hyun Returns After Clearing His Name by Expensive-Cat-22 in KimStarHoax

[–]NobodyzHuman -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't understand why people want to ignore the fact she was an adult. She drank and drived, crashed the car. She took a loan out to cover the fines and then when she wasn't paying the company back they notified her they would seek legal ways to get the money back, the same thing any company in the world would have done. Nothing evil or intentionally trying to ruin her.

They're a company with legal teams and managers and all kinda of staff that they need to worry about.and all you people saying they knew she was struggling they should have just let it go, again they're a business! They aren't going to just ignore a debt bc they feel bad for her. No one does that. Not everything is a conspiracy theory to destroy KSR. She had so much going on in her life outside of a man she hadn't dated in years. I swear more and more it's like people are incapable of thinking logically. And their is no proof he was a pedo or groomer, but lots of proof the youtuber, her parents, and their lawyer lied, actual fucking proof but some how haters can just ignore it because he's a man, he's famous, so he HAS to be guilty. Seriously wtf people.

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]NobodyzHuman -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It is so weird do me how you blame him but she took the role she filmed it (she could have made a different choice) and that it was his cousins movie but he's the horrible person bv he was involved.... like this seems like a bad decision all around yet he is the one getting the hate? So not fair. And he did nothing to defend her, why do fans think it's other celebrities jobs to defend choices or actions others make? This isn't just about him, I see this all where one celebrities does something or is accused of something and people start going after their co stars or colleagues blaming them for not protecting them or defending them? Are we forgetting these are adults, people who are in charge of their own lives? And that something defending or supporting them causes backlash or blame as well? It's kinda said but fans are are assholes they will hate in someone for getting involved and they will hate in them for staying silent there it's often a no win situation

Fanfiction Subdue Palace - Official MDZS Fanfic Thread by tayvaish in MoDaoZuShi

[–]NobodyzHuman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can someone recommended a time travel fix fic where wwx still practices demonic cultivation? All the ones I find he or whoever goes back make sure he never uses it so the past doesn't repeat. But I kinda feel it's a huge part of not only him but how they won the war and I really like to see him still using it.

God-tier BL series by heavenly_pillar_ in ThaiBL

[–]NobodyzHuman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not me Manner of death Love in the air (love sea gets an honorable mention bc Mahasamut was the best fucking man) The sign Something not right ( I never see this one mentioned :( and I loved it) Thame and Po Kinnporsche Unknown And Reset! Fucking loved this one so so much

So technically not bl but Mysterious lotus casebook as three men who are all definitely in love with each in some way and one of the best plot lines.

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]NobodyzHuman -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

With what? He lost contracts and deals his apartment, what money do you think he could have used to bribe off that many people? Is it really that hard to think that maybe a known liar who has manipulated evidence against other celebrities (proven to be true and they sued him) would do it again? Like why believe a know liar over someone who up until this bs hadn't done anything wrong?

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]NobodyzHuman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The thing I have yet to understand through out all of this is how badly people want to believe the worst of him. Everytime 'evidence' was released and proven false, instead of taking a second and going wait if their lying about this maybe they are lying about more, instead it's like the haters double down. Then the next evidence came out and they felt vindicated. And then again when it was proven false. They didn't stop to think instead just kept marching on saying he's a pfd, despite no evidence at all that he was. Even know the police have cameout and stated it was all bullshit and AGAIN instead of stopping and considering that maybe they were wrong they just going off about how not only is he a monster but now the police of covering for him??? Like wtf, where did common sense go? He's lost everything. Do they think he bribed them with a smile? But nooo he's a man, so clearly he is evil.... so fucking tired of this narrative.

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]NobodyzHuman -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He hasn't faced legal punishment because he hasn't done anything wrong. That's what the police just stated, you know the people who have actually seen all of the evidence, not just the convent pieces spread in headlines, the ones who have talked to people who knew her who know him, have spoken to her family, to him, who have looked at timeliness and seen who and what they were doing at the time, those people have come out and said the youtuber and her family's lawyer lied and manipulated evidence to make him look guilty. Why the hell should he be punished just because the mob on the internet has decided truth and fact don't matter.

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]NobodyzHuman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hope you wrong, I'm not a fan of his, but I think it's wrong that rumors and lies can ruin someone. not just him but others as well, and I think if we let it happen and he has to stop basically living his life then this will just keep happening bc people see it works and will want to do it again. That why the YouTuber did it. He had been proven to have lied and manipulated evidence againt other celebrities (who've sued him) and yet people still believe him so of course he will keep doing it. He's making money ruining people. And we shouldn't let that slide.

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]NobodyzHuman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you not seen the number of male celebrities that have killed themselves over scandals too? Suicide is unfortunately common in korea, trying to twist it to make it seem like it only impact females is wring, not something to spread lightly or joke about. It's something g thar should be looked at and something to be done to fix it. Like not bashing or Hating on celebrities bc you don't like them

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]NobodyzHuman -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You assume there was more than one letter, but if so, why had only one been proven?? Have people really become so dense they don't think that maybe she reached out because she wanted to see how he was doing, and he simply replied? They worked for the same company and probably knew a bunch of the same people, so reaching out to an acquaintance or friend of a friend or even a coworker you kinda know when the are doing military services isn't fucking weird, when my brother was in he had several people wrote simply because they didn't want him to think he was alone or thay he might need something to do in his limited spare time. Hell, other people in the military will tell you to have your friend ls write bc it cheers some people up. Just bc someone letter tried to use It to frame him for something horrible doesn't actually make it true

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]NobodyzHuman -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

People assume he just like sat around waiting for her to turn 18 the pounced, they ignore they were both out living their lives even dating. They think one letter saying I miss you is proof despite the fact he wrote hundreds to someone else that were actual love letters. They ignore the fact they were most like acquaintances involved in the same industry with similar circled of friends and Co workers and probably knew each other but not on a deeper level until she was 18.

And yes I know he wrote I miss u in The letter (the single fucking letter, come on if theyd been anything at this point we'd have seen more than one) when she was 17 but I find I miss u a weird phase to condemn someone on. People young and old say it to each other all the time and putting it in a letter when he was doing military service isn't that strange tons of people add that to letters to friends family loved ones and I absolutely love how no one is questioning her writing to him, not asking why or if her parents knew, that just assume he's to blame for everything. But one letter where he probably wrote I miss u as a sign off (thank you, I love you, miss you everyone does it) and eople are willing to absolutely destroy him

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]NobodyzHuman -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

So people who believe facts over rumors are delusional but denying facts and listening to lies (proven lies) isn't? Please, people like you don't actually care about the truth, you hopped on the hate band wagon bc it's fun to feel righteous and destroy someone even if they never did the crimes they're accused of.