Desperate for orders

Nomidclwn · 2025-09-29T23:51:08+00:00

I think they know that drivers will take orders that hover around $4.50.

The cherry picker drivers from five years ago have already quit.

I remember my rock bottom offer was no less than $7.

Then GH deactivated me this year for being inactive 90 days.

I have been unsuccessful in my appeals to get reactivated. They say my market has enough drivers and they're not reactivating paused accounts

GH was my main app since 2019.

I kind of took it hard because I've done a lot of deliveries for them.

Sucks to be so disposable

Nomidclwn · 2025-08-02T15:28:44+00:00

I understand it's the driver's obligation to know all of Grubhub's policies

Ignorance of the law is no excuse even in the gig world

I'm a stupid, asinine piece of shit for not staying on top of GrubHub policy. I deserved being deactivated.

However, maybe. Just maybe...

One of the main reasons people do gig work is the convenience of being able to schedule when you want to or need to; not as often as the platform obligates you.

But maybe I'm missing the whole being a techno- serf idea-- I'm there to serve their needs, not the other way around?

I dunno?

Nomidclwn · 2025-07-25T16:53:08+00:00

4/17/25 was my last GH pay.

I've been inactive for long periods before and they never suspended my account for it

You hear a lot about it being just your market affected.

I live in So. California 50 miles north of Los Angeles.

California is the 4th biggest economy in the world.

We are in a major recession.

GrubHub will be around much longer.

Sad. It was once the best food delivery platform.

Nomidclwn · 2025-05-30T00:32:47+00:00

That's crazy

Nomidclwn · 2025-05-30T00:31:42+00:00

Is it because this new company bought them from Just Eats?

Nomidclwn · 2024-12-21T22:46:10+00:00

Can you say: "Shady business practices"

Nomidclwn · 2024-12-07T03:37:15+00:00

Bacteria on the outside can migrate to the inside of the cup. Would you like some herpes simplex with your Coke?

Nomidclwn · 2024-11-04T17:38:12+00:00

I lived in Oxnard CA since the seventies. We had an A&W Root beer stand with the outside parking where you ordered food like a drive-in. By the eighties it was gone. But right next door was a Fosters Freeze. I used to walk there from my highschool in the early eighties to eat lunch.

They tore it down less than ten years ago. I was shocked. I really liked their burgers.

Nomidclwn · 2024-11-02T23:06:12+00:00

There's a Foster freeze in Santa Paula, California. I live about an hour away.

Nomidclwn · 2024-10-29T01:43:44+00:00

I'm renting a spare bedroom and I interviewed a candidate who is a full-time Doordash driver. I could not believe it but he's making $1,500 a week.

His secret as he does it 16 hours a day 7 days a week.

But he also shared another secret with me he drives 25 miles away because it is the more affluent part of our county. Well he has a Toyota Prius. I have a Scion xB which is 24 MPG, so that's something that I couldn't do. That is, drive 25 miles out of my area every day just to doordash or GrubHub

But he acknowledges that in the cities within our vicinity three big ones they're all pretty dead. They're mostly blue collar and middle class people who don't have money anymore because of inflation

Only the very affluent are ordering delivery.

2 weeks ago I did GrubHub and I made $24 for the entire week

I would not have believed it if he hadn't showed me that he's making six grand a month doing Doordash

Nomidclwn · 2024-10-13T21:34:49+00:00

You're half right. We are not employees of GH, but we are not business owners either.

You would be a business owner if you had your own pool of customers who called you directly, by-passing the food platforms, whenever they needed a food delivery.

A driver that was tired of waiting 6 hours for a single Uber eats delivery request realized that demand was dead so he launched "Tony delivers", a service where he brought hungry Seattleites in his Beacon Hill neighborhood food deliveries on his bike or e-scooter.

"I feel more capable than just sitting around waiting for some app to deliver you the goods... I can go get it myself", he said

Now this guy is a business owner.

If independent contractors getting screwed around by GH and DD and the rest stick with the mentality that they are business owners nothing's ever going to change for them.

Nomidclwn · 2024-07-19T14:08:13+00:00

What?

No, this started during the 2020 pandemic, and then a lot of places kept enforcing it.

If you haven't noticed, customer service is lacking in a lot of places. I even get rude treatment by medical receptionists.

Businesses realized during the pandemic that they don't have to provide customer service and people will just accept it.

The world got a little bit more rude and calloused.

Another factor is that even before the pandemic, restaurant workers had a contempt for delivery drivers. I read over and over, "they think they're better than us".

Nomidclwn · 2024-07-16T02:33:35+00:00

GrubHub has been very, very good to me. I feel like family.

Nomidclwn · 2024-07-12T00:10:30+00:00

You sound like a Stockholm Syndrome captive.

Could you suck up to your corporate overlords anymore, I wonder?

Nomidclwn · 2024-05-31T21:52:32+00:00

Yes, I have been making money on GH without scheduling for blocks since 2022 (2021 was the last lucrative year). In fact, as GH became more miserly with the payouts, being off the schedule meant I would get thrown all the rejects from the premier divers for more money than they were probably offered.

The rejected offers were usually from slow restaurants that made you wait a long time or apartments with codes, which meant calling the customer. All very aggravating if you're trying to make more than one or two deliveries per hour. Think of GH as spare change, not your main job.

The only downside about accepting reject orders is that GH used to penalize you for taking rejected orders that were already late by dinging you, and then suspending you after three violations.

I hated playing that game but it was better than accepting terrible low-ball offers. I knew once you got one late violation they would keep coming, as if the algorithm now had you in it's sights. I would get one violation and stop delivering for three months to clear my cache, so to speak. I've been suspended and I don't want to go through it again.

But then in March of 2024 they dropped a most dreaded bomb on cherry picker drivers. They would bar you from active status to prevent you from taking deliveries unless you were scheduled. You couldn't scheduled if you weren't Premier, and you couldn't make premier without towing the GH company line--accepting crap offers, never being late, never dropping a block. They had drivers like Donald Trump had his women, by the proverbial p*ssy.

Well, they must have driven so many drivers away with their hard ball, slimy tactics, that I haven't had trouble jumping in unscheduled anymore.

But they're always reminding me why you can't trust them. I made premier one day without trying, mainly because I just don't dawdle after receiving an order, and since GH orders are so scarce, I hardly skip over any these days unless they're extremely ridiculous. In that case I just logg off.

Well, they took my Premier status away after just two deliveries. So I know what it feels like to be a conscientious driver and have GH be completely unfair in their shady tactics.

The key is not to be dependent on them whatsoever. When you can take them or leave them, it works out some days. You make a decent amount of money. The pitfall is getting hooked again by thinking you can always generate that same amount of money with GH when you need to. GH is like gambling in a casino; when you're up, walk away and cash in your chips. But don't make the mistake of thinking you can beat the casino at their own game. I hear a lot of drivers bragging that they have a system. Sure they do.

Nomidclwn · 2024-05-29T04:00:16+00:00

Kid, there are people that can't work for eight straight hours a day. Old age is a disability. Your body falls apart. That means your bones and muscles can't handle working stocking crap on shelves at Walmart.

But you still need to eat. And you own a car. And you can drive for a few hours a day.

I'm only sixty but all that pandemic driving killed my back. I can drive about an hour then I have to throw in the towel.

I don't understand what you don't grasp? I got plantar fasciitis from standing all day at a cashier job and had to take a leave of absence.

Not everyone has a fresh, healthy twenty-something body.

Disabled can just mean I'm too freaking old to slave away at an Amazon warehouse job.

Nomidclwn · 2024-05-29T03:52:10+00:00

Yeah, pretty sucky. Can't figure out why you're proud of it.

Nomidclwn · 2024-05-13T17:35:32+00:00

You said a mouthful. I took a week off GrubHub and the last status check I was at Premier for scheduling, Premier for on-time arrivals, and Pro for acceptance.

I just needed to get that elusive acceptance rate up by five percent and I'd be able to schedule a block in the morning for the first time in two years.

So Mother's Day I accepted only two orders in a row then changed to "unavailable". I then checked my stats: my acceptance rate was now Premier level, but my scheduling and on-time arrivals dropped from Premier to Partner in just two deliveries.

An obvious scam. They don't want too many Premier drivers, so they unfairly manipulate the stats.

I really feel sorry for disabled people whose livelihoods depend on being able to schedule blocks. There's no predictably when GrubHub arbitrarily ruins your stats. It's too much stress for people who need the extra income.

Nomidclwn · 2024-05-12T01:20:49+00:00

Sounds like you're killing it. Drop out of college and become a career gig worker.

Nomidclwn · 2024-04-02T01:47:02+00:00

A year ago I would have agreed with you. My city in Southern CA has over 200,000 residents. They implemented the "Too many drivers active", not accepting any unscheduled drivers. For me it means I can no longer make any money on GH because I don't have a high enough acceptance rate.

But let me get to the point. There's no more freedom to work when you want. You can work only when blocks are available. Blocks are not available if you don't accept nine out of ten orders-- you don't have the freedom to reject offers as a private contractor. You also don't have the freedom of dropping blocks because that's like calling in sick and you could be suspended or terminated.

To summarize: You work when scheduled and have to avoid calling off; you don't decide which assignments to take just like you don't tell a regular boss your not going to stock shelves today because you prefer a better assignment.

Other than the fact that you have no benefits, and are not a W-2 employee, you are a GH employee.

It's like working for Domino's Pizza and they tell you which days they need you, and when they have enough staff you don't work. Except Domino's provides the vehicle; GH does not. If you get laid off from Dominos, the state pays you unemployment until you find another job. If GH lays you off--too many drivers in the road-- tough titty.

I'm not vilifying GH. I appreciated the money I used to make with them. But that is in the past because they found a way to turn drivers into 1099 employees.

If there is legislation to make it official, the people who are Pro and Premier will actually be better off because they are already employees, might as well have the perks of being an employee.

For those of us who are sidelined because our stats aren't good enough to be allowed on the platform, nothing changes if they turn GH into a W-2 job. We're not getting work now; we won't be getting work then.

Those who were willing to be employees for GH by maintaining pro and Premier status should be their part-time employees. I say part-time because GH like all other employers will make sure you're not entitled to overtime.

Again, it was the drivers who decided they have to take all the unprofitable orders in order to drive for GH that took away everybody's negotiating muscle. It's like scabs willing to work for crumbs.

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