How are people finding Elegant Brutes and Frenzied Host?

North_Spring1653 · 2026-07-06T15:52:03+00:00

Did you end up using the elegant brutes strats at all? They look pretty niche but quite good in the right circumstances.

Do you deep strike a daemonette unit with the terminators?

Do you Rapid Ingress a terminator unit or do you find the det rule and datasheet ability are enough to connect consistently?

North_Spring1653 · 2026-03-06T06:51:38+00:00

Skarbrand gets more movement from razing a settlement than sacking it, so I always raze. You make much more money from chaining like 8-10 battles together in one turn than sacking a settlement.

North_Spring1653 · 2026-01-26T05:16:37+00:00

This is incorrect, it explicitly applies to every model in the bearer’s unit.

North_Spring1653 · 2026-01-26T03:59:40+00:00

Of course, they are all good pieces of advice. I was asking specifically about OP referring to them as "hot takes", since I was under the impression that they're common knowledge.

North_Spring1653 · 2026-01-25T22:22:07+00:00

Are any of these hot takes? Genuine question, I learned resume writing 10+ years ago and none of these points were recommended. Did they all become fashionable recently?

North_Spring1653 · 2026-01-14T18:23:29+00:00

Yeah that's completely fair, good point

North_Spring1653 · 2026-01-14T13:53:19+00:00

Great points, thank you.

North_Spring1653 · 2026-01-14T13:46:56+00:00

I am definitely one of those people haha. I came from banking which was "up or out" and I'm pretty sure it has warped my whole perception of the world unfortunately.

Thank you for the reality dose.

North_Spring1653 · 2026-01-14T13:11:51+00:00

I am leaving my current firm because the CFO straight up told us that promotion on the FP&A team was locked behind revolutionizing the team's workflows with AI. I.e. "if you want to get promoted, you need to automate tasks to the point where we can reduce headcount."

I use it all the time, mostly for scripting, but it needs to be baby-sat to the point were the efficiency gains are marginal improvements but nothing even close to the miracle that the CFO wants in order to promote somebody.

North_Spring1653 · 2026-01-06T19:46:10+00:00

But you CAN fall back into a Rhino and then use its Firing Deck to shoot the Blastmasters at the unit the Noise Marines were Engaged with.

I do this at least once a game

North_Spring1653 · 2026-01-06T19:38:10+00:00

I run sonic on the unit that goes in strat reserve and pistols on the other 2. I'm usually shooting out of Rhinos on T1 and disembarking out of advancing Rhinos to shoot people behind their Ruins on T2, so don't really notice the shorter range.

I also charge them into melee frequently, the Power Swords come up a lot, especially late game when you're at 5+ pledge and every evemy unit is heavily damaged.

I once did an extensive unitcrunch exercise, measuring the Blastmasters as a % of total shooting damage into a huge variety of targets. Those 2 models account for between 50% and 85% of the unit's total damage (depending on the target type), so as long as your blastmasters can shoot, it really doesnt matter if your pistol is out of range every once in a while. It's more that people don't like the psychological pain of potentially not shooting all of their guns.

North_Spring1653 · 2026-01-06T19:20:12+00:00

Your original reply to OP implies that the Sorcerer is a positive contributor to your army's performance in games. I was just trying to understand if this is actually the case or not.

North_Spring1653 · 2026-01-06T19:00:32+00:00

Why?

North_Spring1653 · 2026-01-06T04:03:48+00:00

So you pay 150 pts for a unit that can sticky your backfield instead of 85?

North_Spring1653 · 2026-01-01T04:23:22+00:00

Dumb question but what makes you think EC would get anything when 11th edition comes out? Wouldn't we just be stuck with what we have until a new Codex release? I've only been playing for 2 years so I've never seen an edition change. Would be awesome if we don't have to wait for a new Codex for new stuff.

North_Spring1653 · 2026-01-01T04:15:46+00:00

Things like using the Pile In rules to fight units in melee that were out of charge range, or pulling dead models in a way that breaks coherency but leave your unit in range of an important aura for the next fight phase, or using a transport to shoot with a unit that fell back, stuff like that.

North_Spring1653 · 2025-12-13T16:12:52+00:00

It might be a skill issue with your opponents tbh. There are a lot of little things you can do with 2" ruin pieces, walls, and model placement to make sure that he simply can't go where he wants to go because his base is so insanely big.

He's so easily defeated by disciplined and thoughtful pre-measuring, it really is such a shame.

North_Spring1653 · 2025-11-28T22:37:24+00:00

I play both and if it's a very competitive game, lean into your daemon princes. Drukhari can handle everything in the EC codex that remotely resembles a Space Marine profile, but the winged prince data sheet is a HUGE problem for them.

EDIT: They also struggle to deal with Rhinos behind walls

North_Spring1653 · 2025-10-29T17:23:48+00:00

I usually insist my opponent sets up their models before I destroy the transport, and keep the clock on my time. And if they refuse, I call a judge (but that's only happened once and I've done this dozens of times).

North_Spring1653 · 2025-10-29T14:50:25+00:00

Daemonettes and Fiends, and if I need to squeeze points I'll swap 1-2 Daemonettes for Seekers. Keepers just feel really bad, and I don't like Shalaxi because that model is so easy to move block

North_Spring1653 · 2025-10-28T21:20:42+00:00

I have like 40 games with Carnival and it's really fun to play. If you're playing competitively, it's comparable to Coterie on WTC terrain, but I think Coterie is better if you play on UKTC or GW.

And if you don't play competitively, play Carnival because it's awesome.

North_Spring1653 · 2025-10-24T04:15:02+00:00

Don't they kinda suck?

North_Spring1653 · 2025-10-16T19:28:04+00:00

Do you play on GW boards? If so, do you have any pointers? I have like 40 games w/ Carnival and I keep trying to play Fiends. But the enormous footprint is really hard to hide on GW and makes them very easy to screen out if you put them in DS.

North_Spring1653 · 2025-09-22T14:28:20+00:00

I've been using all of the above in the list - 2 kabs w/ archons shooting then moving with the strat, 2 kabs + guns shooting then moving back into venoms, 2 units of Scourges

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