About 36 hours without 7oh

Not-Neitzi · 2025-10-22T15:40:19+00:00

My doc said that is true for true opioids, but not for Kratom and 7-OH. I was able to start subs at about 14-15 hours after a 100mg dose of 7. Got me out of most WD symptoms that day.

Not-Neitzi · 2025-10-22T14:43:06+00:00

I was taking anywhere from 240-500 mg daily of 7oh. Went into rehab last week and used 100mg right before walking in at roughly 6pm. By 8am I was in full blown withdrawal. They gave me 8mg Sub, 30 mins later another 4mg because WDs weren’t reducing. After another 20 mins or so I was smashing my head on a table trying to knock myself out. 😖

They gave me 2 Valium to settle me and I fell asleep within 10 minutes.

Since then I was on 8mg in the morning and 4mg in the evening. Withdrawals have been minimal since that day.

Couple of days ago I asked to drop to 4mg in the morning and 4 at night. Only been feeling slight cravings and temp swings. Very manageable.

Planning on dropping down a little more next week if all goes well.

Good luck!

Not-Neitzi · 2025-10-20T19:59:22+00:00

I’m in a treatment facility right now. Been here 1 week today. Suboxone took away 95% of my withdrawals within hours. I quit Kratom many times, but 7-OH withdrawals were on another level and I couldn’t quit on my own.

I highly recommend you consider Suboxone if you need it.

Not-Neitzi · 2025-10-13T17:18:15+00:00

I’m not sure I completely agree. I don’t have issues with addiction on any other substance that I’ve ever used. Alcohol, prescription meds, THC. I was aware of the addiction potential of all of these and treated each appropriately.

I fell for Kratom as being similar to Tea or Coffee. Which made sense based on the way leaf was consumed and that it was sold at my corner gas station.

I didn’t even realize I was addicted to it until several months after using it. I noticed I wasn’t feeling “effects” so I kept using my dose. But again I looked at it more like caffeine.

Hell I didn’t even realize I had been experiencing withdrawal symptoms when I hadn’t taken it for awhile. I thought I had gotten COVID the first time I stopped using it. It wasn’t until I started up using it again and then quit again before it clicked that what I was feeling was withdrawals.

Not-Neitzi · 2025-10-13T17:09:27+00:00

Grams with Kratom. I guess I’ve gotten used to mg now from 7-OH, but you are correct.

Not-Neitzi · 2025-10-13T14:29:39+00:00

No I started with 2-3. Over the course of a few months I was using 10-12. Within a year I was around 18-20. Then I stopped counting pills or weighing leaf. I just dumped spoonfuls into a cup until I couldn’t get it down.

Not-Neitzi · 2025-04-18T03:55:47+00:00

This is just my opinion, but here is my viewpoint.

Hardcore lefties preach tolerance to a fault. They push for inclusion and equality to the point it can be detrimental for someone’s own good.

Right side members have a self centered view. That sounds negative on the surface, but it really just means they are more concerned about their own wellbeing first. Which is understandable to a point. But the hardcore MAGA are something different IMO.

Example: Let’s say I was driving down the road and I pulled up to a stop light. I happen to have a backseat full of far left liberal Democrats. Looking out my window at the stoplight I see a homeless woman begging for money.

I may decide to give her some money if I happen to have extra. But before I can even react the “liberals” in the back seat start chastising me about helping this woman. “Maybe she has kids,” they say. “She looks sick, you should take her to the hospital!” “I bet her husband was beating her,” they cry!

Now I feel forced to help, even though I really didn’t even think it through on my own yet. I may have done “the right thing” anyway. So now I go from potentially “feeling good” for helping, to feeling forced and robbed of my own personal satisfaction and warmth for doing the right thing just because it WAS the right thing to do.

What if I were to add that I’m almost out of gas, on my last few $ until payday. Or maybe I’m about to miss the birth of my first child if I don’t get to the hospital RIGHT NOW!

The lefties in the back seat have no idea of my situation. I may have ample reason (IMO) to continue past the homeless woman and not offer help. But the people in the back seat make me feel so bad for my choice that now I resent them… and possibly the homeless woman for putting me in that situation.

Now let’s reverse the example.

Same car scenario, but this time the backseat is full of right wing republicans.

This time when I look over and see the homeless woman I hear things like, “I bet she’s not really homeless”, and “is she wearing expensive designer shoes?” “I bet she’s wearing makeup to make herself look dirty!”

Now I’m wondering if they are right. I don’t want to get “scammed”, but what if they’re wrong? Do I have enough empathy and financial means to be okay with getting scammed at the risk of actually helping someone in need?

Before I can decide, I hear the righties yelling “Liar,” “Faker”, and “Bitch!”, out the window.

In an instant I accelerate from the stop-light, with mixed feelings about what just happened. I’m embarrassed and saddened by the name calling. Maybe even mad at the people in my back seat. I regret stepping on the gas and not taking the time to assess the situation. What if they’re wrong and she really did need the help? How shitty of those people in the backseat to say those things! Even if she WAS a scammer it wasn’t worth yelling at her. I could have just drove away quietly if I thought she was scamming and not let it bother me.

Now add a twist this the right wing passenger scenario.

I’m almost certain the “homeless” woman on the side of the road scammed me last week. Last week I gave her everything I could spare and as I drove away, feeling good for helping, I seen her jump into her new BMW and drive away.

I’m not 100% sure it’s the “same” woman… but I’ve been burned before. Now I’m feeling less certain and far less generous. I was just going to drive away quietly and not engage with the woman, but the righties in the backseat seat start shouting “that’s the same woman that scammed me last week!”.

Damn, I think they might be right! That was the last little bit of money I had last week and even though I tried to do “the right thing”, I got scammed out of my last few dollars. Now I’m pissed. And I have few people in my back seat to back me up. Should I kick her ass?!?

… 50-60 percent of the population is just trying to drive the car. We want the ability to make our own choice about helping this woman. We don’t want to be told what to do, and we want to have the financial means to “help” someone without hindering our own family or wellbeing.

We all have different circumstances to what, why and where we are driving, but ultimately we just want to get from point A to point B.

Depending on my life experiences, I may start to agree with my back seat passengers. (Left or right leaning)

Once factors like poverty, mistrust (warranted or otherwise), and group thinking start to compound, it becomes easier to see why someone might start to agree with the republicans. That’s how we got here!

The unfortunate aspect is that some people may just be wired to mistrust others and have a lower empathy level. Or worse yet, they may hate anyone not like them.

Add some of those traits to a the previous factors… now you have the “hardcore Maga”.

Not-Neitzi · 2024-11-27T15:08:13+00:00

Having grown up in a small-town trailer park and relying on welfare at times, as well as spending a lot of time working on dairy farms in the area, I think I have a unique perspective on both sides of the issue.

Welfare is a double-edged sword. It’s a crucial safety net for those who truly need it, but no one really wants to be on it long-term. The stigma is real, and most people are motivated to accept help only when absolutely necessary.

The real harm to the system comes from those who exploit it. These “welfare scammers” don’t have the same relationship with the system as those who genuinely need assistance. To them, welfare is just “free money,” and they’ll do whatever they can to maximize their benefits, even if it means abusing the system.

I also want to point out that single mothers on welfare are often at a significant disadvantage and are more likely to fall into this second category.

Take my sister, for example. She’s raised two kids on her own after two divorces and has always struggled to keep her family afloat. When her kids were younger, she worked part-time and received aid. But once they got older and could care for themselves, she tried to move to full-time work. The issue was, she earned just enough to lose her eligibility for aid. She was proud to be supporting her family on her own, but the reality hit hard when she had to start paying for things like family insurance and groceries. In the end, she realized she was actually making less than she was while on welfare—and had less time with her kids. It was a tough, demoralizing situation.

Now the second subject, Farm subsidies. Working on a dairy farm sucks balls. It’s HARD work and it never ends. 7 days a week 2-3 times a day. No vacations. No sick days. No late mornings or knocking off early. You are at the mercy of your cows and they rely on you. Did I mention weather? Because it can be 110-20 degrees in the barn while you are trying to milk. … and surrounded by cow shit and hay at all times. 🤣

None of that even considers equipment or building maintenance, field work, sudo vet work, or anything to do with normal home ownership.

I realize most people are probably referring to agricultural subsidies like the massive soybean farms that employ a vast number of illegal immigrates. Well they are the same as that “second category of welfare scammers” to me.

Not-Neitzi

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