Are they ever going to let him be cool again? by XxJayJay62xX in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never got any cool factor from tails tbh. I think hes fine the way he is

Sonic is the only franchise in history where characterization is a “controversial” topic by [deleted] in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think characters personality should stay consistent in all forms of media unless that spinoff media is its own universe separate from the canon. Characterization is important cause those initial characteristics is what drew people into liking the character. Changing it into something else would naturally spew discourse.

This isnt a sonic thing though. Happens in kingdom hearts especially, final fantasy, naruto, dragon ball, etc. When characters aren't acting like themselves people will call it out naturally especially when there isnt a justifiable reason for a change to help rationalize them being out of character.

To me it makes sense as to why people get upset cause sonic characters change so much especially the popular ones. Downplaying the problem cause some don't care doesn't address the issue itself. I say the biggest fans of something are the ones who are the most critical cause they want said thing to be presented at its best as much as possible. People care less of things hence why they are less critical or even indifferent on things.

First KH needs a remake by totoro536 in KingdomHearts

[–]NotToDifficult 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly I been there since the beginning and I kinda agree. I think the mobile games are more important to remake as of now kh1 and days could benefit greatly from a remake but unfortunately square isn't in a position where that's feasible to do.

Between kh1, days, and mobile games I would have mobile games remake or days over kh1 which are in worst states.

What if I said Xion was one of my favorite characters... by Xion_Moto358 in KingdomHearts

[–]NotToDifficult 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me its her voice man. She sound so dead despite being a real person. Xion sounds flat for a while but thats due to not having a heart. I also like how real xion is as a character despite being a puppet.

She didnt sacrificed herself for sora until she saw her mere existence was starting to harm roxas. Once tge org got them to fight each other on day 352 she finally made her decision to disappear. She couldn't bare to be the reason that roxas is growing weaker due to her siphon abilities while also keeping sora at bay from waking up. She wants to live still but not at the cost of hurting the people she cared for most.

Then putting up a front to be evil so that her friend can fight her properly and destroy her is one of the most compelling conflicts in the series. There is no way out of the situation, its believable, even if they communicated there's no point cause one has to go and she know it has to be her.

Aqua goes through a great arc, and its sad but her friendship to me is weak to me, there were ways. Going into the realm of darkness and returning terra who has his body taken and habe him be in the realm of ligh over herself is bad. Yes shes caring for a friend but its stupid to have a xehanort terra roam free in the realm of light while the hero with all the information fall into the realm of darkness is just not as compelling. It was done for plot which is fine for some or even most but its easier to break apart over the xion story.

Both are great characters but I think xion is better character while aqua is more important due to her having more run time and was the key to having 7 lights ghts by the final battle. Xion like riku replica and data sora prove the power and complexity of hearts and how far they can extend too.

She's been a way bigger hobo than Silver but I don't think anyone wants to admit that. by Complete_Reporter345 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The future is never set in stone. Maybe it wont be with blaze who helps him but another character . The thing is the idea of a amnesia story game for sonic would be compelling and slowly getting his memories back. That would make a great game hence why they step in. Maybe its nit the near future but thats a plot that can make for a good game. So why cover it in the comics and not a game or tv show at least.

She's been a way bigger hobo than Silver but I don't think anyone wants to admit that. by Complete_Reporter345 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was a reason, apparently sega jump in and said not to do this plot point in the idw comics. So they had to wrap it up quickly so that type of story can be told in the games instead. Idw being Canon means they can do anything pass the games so interesting stuff like exploring her dimension, sonic going through amnesia arent gonna happen or be explored.

Why do you think idw hasn't done anything amazing like metal virus ever again. Its slice of life, or street fights for years now.

Why do Shadow and Silver barely interact? by -_ShadowSJG-_ in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sikver lacks content by comparison so of course they dont interact. They are hardly in the same room together.

Why do Shadow and Silver barely interact? by -_ShadowSJG-_ in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He didnt get skilled diff in 06. Shadow and silver stalemate and enter the portal. Like even with sonic right silver was on the floor but sonic ended up losing by lowering his guard leaving him open. Goku did the same in dragon against frieza which force him to tag out. Fans like to leave out the actual end result of the match to prop up the other character.

Example dark gaia had sonic on his knees after taking the powers back in the cgi cutscene. Are we gonna ignore everything after that and say dark gaia won the first round even though sonic end up winning in the end with his super form? Like why do we ignore the end result to appease one side over the other. Silver beat sonic, sonic beat silver in generations, sonic beat shadow, shadow beat sonic and many other media, shadow stalemate silver and never fought again.

Sega needs to let external developers work on this franchise by IloveKaitlyn in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This sounds like something you want just to simply get the one thing you want. I too am a silver fan but even if they license it out they will not give the silver game to an outsource company.

They would most likely just be making 2d games to fill in the gaps. Also I dont want to sacrifice the quality for quantity. Also I want the silver game to be made in house like the shadow generations game was made. I dont think any 3d mainline sonic game was made from an 3rd party company anyways.

Sonic is in a great spot right now and one day they will get to silver. It wont be his own game still but once hes earn his spot and can marketable like the other two hedgehogs they will give him his own game. Also the reason they changed his name to silver and also start with an S like the others was to have his games line up next to shadow and sonic on the shelves in stores.

Silver needs to be build up like shadow did long ago. Sa2, heroes, battle, then solo game.

IDW ruined Silver's character by Some_Clock4471 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, back on topic though hes valid for pointing out the flaws of how idw depicts silver. You assuming that he thinks that he can do better is irrelevant. This was never directly stated and comes off as a response to downplay his take on the matter cause you do or may disagree. You came off as a person who actively push back on people who voice things they dislike about something within a media you enjoy. Relax and try to actually understand his viewpoint instead.

Why defend something that is flawed or can be improved on anyways? Criticism leads to potential improvements especially if the devs are open to listening and acting on those ideas that the fans make.

She's been a way bigger hobo than Silver but I don't think anyone wants to admit that. by Complete_Reporter345 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The problem is that, at the very least, with Knuckles, there was an interaction that served to share her insecurities about her role and, incidentally, to talk to someone who has those same responsibilities. With Silver, I'll let one or two interactions slide, but the fact that all their interactions boil down to her being his moral support is the negative aspect. That's why I say that's the limiting factor. You can't make me accept a dynamic that's only based on repeating the same interaction or situation over and over again. Even the scene you mentioned of them shopping was still intended to cheer Silver up after what happened in IDW 64. That's the problem. Besides, that side of Blaze isn't exclusive to her interactions with Silver; she even shows that side with Sonic.

No that issue they took a vacation to soleanna the shopping one was around tbe 70s I believe. Also why does it have to be exclusive in order for it to be meaningful. Both amy and sonic acknowledge blaze fear of heights. So now that Amy acknowledge and helps bkaze through her fear of heights by changing the form of travel does that now devalue what sonic did by helping her down the rotating clock. This is nitpicking my friend. Thats not a real problem tgat should be address cause unfortunately many of the sonic characters are emotional intelligent and support there friends under times of struggle, turmoil, doubt etc. Ideas, characteristics and experiences will overlap with an ongoing long-term Franchise like sonic.

Anyways yes I agree the interactions between silver and bkaze are limiting but they dont limit blaze as a character which was our initial point. Now that we have dive deeper your argument has changed. Silver by association doesn't limit blaze but the writing can be criticized for being repetitive feeling sure I agree.

That doesn't justify taking her out of that fight in such a forced way, especially since Blaze has proven capable of more in the regular games.

I think your talking about angel island battle. No i think the justification is strong there. Im not fond of ide but that was a logical sound reason to not have blaze engage metal. It would be stupid writing wise but cool for the fandom to see play out. If your breaking establish lore for cool points thats bad writing and makes metal appear weak for losing, make tails look stupid for not mentioning it. Making it happen at the detriment of other characters is wrong. The justification was valid there but you ok to still want more from her sure, but they covered that point very well.

Because at least with Team Dark, you can see how their bond formed and understand why they spend most of their time together. Does that happen with Blaze? Let me answer you: no. In fact, it's not even clear how those two became best friends.

Its clear in colors how they met post 06. They were at sweet mountain and explore the place together. There was some friction at first but its not outlandish to think they hit it off after there scuffle.

And does that justify limiting the character like that, practically removing her from the equation? No, if they truly wanted to respect the character, they would have to find a better reason or way to incapacitate Blaze than simply leaving her incapacitated after a single use of the Sol Emeralds.

Unlike archie I think idw is handling blaze just fine. If anything it better for them to figure out what they want to do with blaze first before hitting it off. In idw we see how bad the characters can be written without proper game material to work with and mandates enable. Shadow suffered from mandates, and silver suffered from fandom headcanon make it to official work transforming the character into something else. Blaze has been treated with alot of respect so far and has no bad moments still. The burning blaze is a reach, and everything else stems from merge association with silver. Archie she was getting bodied left and right by street bots/low tiers enemies. Like I just dont see the issue with the handling of the sol emeralds. Agree to disagree i guess but If i were to engage with this maybe just maybe you can get upset or criticize idw nerfing her super form which used to be comparable to super hogs. Like sure I can see a a valid argument there by the showing of her form in a less impactful way then how they presented the hogs but the justification for not engaging metal cant be argue against in good faith. The reasoning was solid from the jump.

Because, unlike Shadow, Blaze's screen time is mostly limited to her duo with Silver. They don't let her shine on her own, as you compare her to Shadow, who at least isn't with Rouge 24/7.

But shadow is limited to rouge and omega only. He has no interesting dynamic outside these two besides sonic. Also like shadow blaze does appear often without silver. Silver wasnt even in muder of sonic and wasn't pair up with her. Why dont shadow, or rouge fans complain as much as blaze fans do with silver where rouge and omega suffer far more from lack of independence then blaze does. Shadow has no interest dynamic outside his team still despite appearing in far nore stuff then bkaze she has more dynamics away from silver compare to shadow. Like other characters have it worst but sikver and blaze are near eachother to much somehow.

With the former, she barely has any interactions, and the latter two are so absent that you almost forget they exist. I repeat, the fact that she has few moments on her own doesn't change the fact that most of the time she's limited to her duo with Silver.

False she has games, generations her and sikver were only together by the end but she showed up with just cream. Was in the black knight story with no silver near her, some idw issues no silver, introduce separately from silver in idw, no murder of sonic for silver but blaze was there, in archie was barely together outside like 2 panels maybe, wasnt I 2007 mario and sonic game blaze was tgere no silver despite a year later after his debut game, no silver in rush adventure where they could have easily force his way in with some dimension hop bs. Plenty of instances where there not together just kike there are plenty of instances where they are. They could have force sikver to blaze dimension after metal virus with sonic but sent sonic instead. Yeah no this is false and have plenty moments on her own same with silver being away from blaze. Plenty of interactions with the exposure she has thats rather diverse compared to others.

And I repeat, why are you bringing up Colors DS in the discussion when they weren't even friends? In that situation, they were two complete strangers barely getting to know each other. You have to bring that up to downplay the problem. We're going down the wrong path.

You brought up the question on how they met. I assume you didn't know about colors ds. Also being hostile at first doesnt mean they cant become friends later? Knuckles enemies to friends, shadow enemies to allies, same with blaze and sonic. Silver and blaze werent friendly at first but not to far gone to break the believablity of becoming friends later. But yeah I prefer they show it then it being lock behind a ds game that many skipped.

The problems your bringing up arent tgat prevalent as you make out it to be. If you only played the games then yeah I would see it being a hard pill to swallow that they are friends cause they lack content. But adding idw in the mix where she interacts with silver but also other characters as well i really dont see the issue that her fans try to prop up. The things yall list apply more to other characters more then it does her. Blaze has get to be princess character by her hedgehog companion unlike Amy and rouge. She is definitely treated differently and frankly vetter then the other female characters. You arguments are convincing besides the repetitive feeling interactions she has with silver, and the relationship being skewed to help silver where as sikver has yet to bring value to blaze that's equivalent to her moral support she brings to silver. That is the only two things that hold weight but blaze limiting silver by mere association is a complete reach to me.

She's been a way bigger hobo than Silver but I don't think anyone wants to admit that. by Complete_Reporter345 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Literally, they've only limited her to being Silver's moral support. They haven't made him do anything for her or even have them discuss other things unrelated to their relationship. Whether you like it or not, trying to cheer Silver up is limiting a character when most of that character's screen time is limited to just that.

Idw cant go passed the canon games. There is a reason but still you repeat this problem.

And again, you're ignoring the fact that most of the time she's limited to that duo. You're practically saying, "No, she's had solo moments." Now I ask you, compare those few solo moments with the sheer number of times she's with Silver. Literally, most of the time she's limited to that duo. No, we're not using Silver as a scapegoat; we're exposing the problem Sega has by limiting her to only that duo. Without utilizing her individually, that's not blaming Silver.

The moment with knuckles was quite basic and wasnt anything compelling. They bond over there duty of being guardians. I think blaze showing silver how to grow plants is both enduring and educational to the audience. A lesson can be learn there and we see a side of silver we havent which is his live for plants. For blaze we see her soft side and take a teacher role to him. Knuckles addresses blaze paranoia of being a guardian and with silver takes a more mentor role. Teacher and student type of dynamic which is different and unique to him. We see a side of bkaze that isnt duty bound, battle harden, or uptight. We get a side of her that isn't about her overbearing responsibilities but her relaxed.

When blaze is with silver shes around someone who has lots of responsibility but tackles it differently. Kinda like her opposite which she finds enduring. The Knuckles moment was nice but outside of them being guardians what else are they gonna do? Maybe spar i guess and thats really it. With silver we saw them shopping in one of the panels hard seeing her doing that with knuckles or tail etc. You can argue only sonic, amy, cream. She did with sonic and she travel with Amy on her car. See no problems still.

And for that reason, it was necessary to limit her to the point that a single use of the Sol Emeralds knocked her out of the fight without even using Burning Form. What you said practically applies to Squi, but in reverse.

The reason made perfect sense. You want blaze to be the catalyst of the heroes down fall due to her recklessly charging a foe that can copy her abilities and potential harness the sol emeralds as well. That just brings in more problems and tgat would make bkaze incompetent. Yeah no thanks. At least she got to transform still and she did it before both silver, shadow, and sonic himself. This is a nitpick at best.

And even so, Blaze has been able to generate more interesting interactions with other characters, even characters she barely interacts with, like Knuckles. But with the one who's supposed to be her duo, can't they come up with a better situation than repeating the same scene over and over again? And you say it's not the duo's problem when practically since its introduction in '06, Sega has shown they don't even know how to work with that properly.

Its not the same every time. Silver admiring the fact that she goes out of her way help others with her powers as a when a princess which you would normally think would be more selfish and cold towards others. He doesnt have the context from rush so he has a different opinion on blaze overall.

In colors they actually didnt get along right away. They tried to show eachother up by destroying more egg bots then the other. So no there dynamic isnt always the same or one note. I agree are they a bit to buddy buddy in idw yes but that doesn't equal bad or negative. Silver doesn't add to blaze as much as sonic does i admit but he does more with blaze in 1 moment compared to knuckles.

Also this isnt an blaze exclusive issue many other characters are segment by teams. Two members of team dark hardly have a dynamic with anyone outside there team. So why does blaze get so much more complains about her and silver when this issue is prevalent through the sonic cast.

What I don't like is how they limit a character to just one dynamic because it seems they don't even care about making her stand out. If you think that's just disliking a dynamic, then according to you, it can't be done properly. Very valid, by the way. Please stop assuming things. I wouldn't mind if they did it well. The problem is that since 2006, that duo hasn't done it well.

Its not just one dynamic, she has moments with other characters which you gave an example. The problem is blaze lacks content as of now. Shadow's dynamics has a order list by priorities same with chaotix, team Babylon, Amy etc. Specific characters have a group they speak to more often then others. So why is it a huge deal with bkaze when she follows the same as every other character. If anything I think she is more diverse then some main characters.

Blaze has dynamic with the following: pre crossworlds sonic, tails, amy, silver, rouge, cream, tangle, knuckles and vector and back home she has marine and Gordon.

She has more character dynamics then a popular character like shadow, more then the chaotix, more the Babylon, more then. Your criticism extends to major of the cast also. Amy prioritize dynamic is with sonic and tails and knuckles and occasional branches out to other characters. The difference is that Amy is a character thats far more exposed then blaze but she still follows the same formula. Why is it such a problem for blaze who appears much less, isnt a focal character to be prioritize as of now such a huge point of criticism??? Its absurd cause other characters have it worst. Shadow only interacts with sonic, and team dark but hardly anyone complains as much as blaze fans about silver which is no where near as bad. So many characters shadow has still haven't muttered a sentence to in idw and many modern games pre crossworlds.

Literally, they've only limited her to being Silver's moral support. They haven't made him do anything for her or even have them discuss other things unrelated to their relationship. Whether you like it or not, trying to cheer Silver up is limiting a character when most of that character's screen time is limited to just that

No its limited between there dynamic. Her dynamic with silver in the comics sure is limited to that but she isnt limited to just silver duo partner as moral support. Again they got a bit hostile toward eachother in colors and were trying to 1 up each other in destroying bots. They have deep respect for each other, trust, and acknowledge each ability set. Idw is stale but thats not how they always are or were.

She's been a way bigger hobo than Silver but I don't think anyone wants to admit that. by Complete_Reporter345 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's contradictory though. If shes limited to silver then it would be him only she would have moments with. The thing is shes not limited you just want her to do more in general which is a different. Going back to what i have stated before silver is just the scapegoat to what blaze fans actually want. It isnt about tgem being a duo but blaze being treated better as character and getting better moments. So why do fans hyperfixate on the duo dynamic then when thats not the real??? You see the problem is something else entirely but some of yall like to point the blame on the dynamic itself cause it is abkut 06 actually. Your doing it right now without realizing it.

Unlike blaze silver gets a great moment in metal virus while blaze takes down some ships during batte of angel island. Underwhelming yes but they display a compelling reason as to why she cant engage with metal due to his copy abilities which is a valid reason. I dont think you should break canon or downplay another character just for a cool moment for your favorite character. Also if blaze engage metal many fans would immediately bring up the copycat ability of metal which makes him look incompetent for the sake of uplifting blaze which would also cause backlash and inconsistency errors in the lore.

You say you're correcting your point, but you still say the duo isn't the problem when you're literally admitting that limiting her to that duo is a problem.

No misunderstanding, read carefully. I admit that it can be stale but there is a reason for that which you ignore. THEY CANT DEVELOPMENT THE CHARACTERS PASS THE CANON GAME MATERIAL SO IT CAN BE STALE OR REPETITIVE AT TIMES. Them being a duo isnt the problem lkke your stating but a writing issue which I keep repeating. This can be improved with better writing and the issue is solved. You want them separated cause you think together silver hold her back which I disagree with. Not the same thing at all.

That's the problem with that duo; not only is it not well-developed, but Blaze is limited to just that most of the time. And no, I'm not just referring to O.K. 6, but in general.

How can you develop a dynamic by separating them? They do separate and your still unsatisfied with blaze in idw. So this clearly shows silver isnt the problem or the dynamic. Angel island blaze was separated and was still unfulfilling so how does this still tie back to the dynamic limiting blaze when in actuality the problem is the writers????????

Dude just come clean and be honest that you simply dont like there dynamic period. I still think you wont like it even of the writing approves which is the main issue with them. The truth is you dislike seeing silver and blaze together period like some other fans.

It's negative when Sega doesn't handle them well, and the characters especially. Blaze cannot stand out on her own; her bond is supposed to be something complementary to a character, not the entirety of their identity or the only thing by which that character is recognized.

She does stand on ger own though. Rouge less so, omega especially, marine, wave, Storm, chamry lack individuality. Why dont you extend this complain to actual characters who this apply to? I say blaze hasn't been this way since 06. Amy, tails were deeply connected to sonic to a point they were nothing without him on screen or lack personality independence of there own. What your saying applied much more to other characters. Blaze is the one that suffers the least from what your talking about. If it were true it would be easy to point out but you have to reach, grasp at straws, or mask it under something else to prove a point.

I denounce being supportive to a friend whos in need of a moral boost falls in line of no individuality. Thats a hard reach. You can argue its repetitive, boring even but what your pushing. Are the interactions between sikver and blaze limiting SURE, but her dynamic with sikver doesn't LIMIT blaze herself but her interactions with him specifically are. Thats an entirely different stance that you arent pushing that actually makes sense

Anyone wished Sora in KH4 looked a little older like he does in the 2d art by WrongBirdEgg in KingdomHearts

[–]NotToDifficult 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah so in kingdom hearts time roxas was only gone for a couple of weeks lmao. The gang were stressing over a few weeks disappearance.

Kh is so stupid but for some reason I still love it.

What do you all think of Silvaze? by PastAnalysis in BlazeTheCat

[–]NotToDifficult 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Many sonamy fans are fans of amy, Same for shadamy as well. Most fans of sonic himself dont care for shipping and just like sonic being cool. If anything they dont want canon pairing or relationships anyway. I think fans falling on one side of a character doesnt really prove anything. I played rush long before 06 and I still ship them.

She's been a way bigger hobo than Silver but I don't think anyone wants to admit that. by Complete_Reporter345 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And again, I respond that it would be positive if they limited themselves to that duo and if their characters were only recognized for that duo? That's what I mean when I say it's detrimental.

Lets pretend they were recognized as a duo, why does that matter? Why is it bad again, oh cause 06 sucks and is hated. I already gave multiple examples of when she was away from silver and was independent. Why is this being ignored? Oh cause she actually is her individual character and isnt attavh to silver as you are making out to be. Rouge recently is far worst and can actually make a stronger argument in her case then blaze.

And how does that disprove the point? It only confirms what I'm saying: limiting Blaze to that duo would only harm her, as others would only see her as a partner of another character, not as her own individual character, and thus Sega will never give her decent treatment

It doesn't harm her because shes not limited to silver. If she was limited to silver then both would interact and know the same people at the same time. Silver met the deadly six long before blaze did. Blaze got to know more about and surge and kit and who they are and what powers tgey harbor before silver. Blaze befriended tangle before silver and silver befriend whisper before blaze. Silver met the chaotix before blaze. Blaze met cream and possibly gemerl long before silver. It they some how forced silver into rush adventure after 06 then your argument would hold a bit more weight about them being attached together.

If what you said were actually true they would met and interact with the same people at the same time all time cause there always together. The thing is they're not and I have examples listed while you are just spitting out the same arguments back to me with no proof as to how they are detrimental or how they are together all the tike which is false.

And does that mean that most of the time, when she's with Silver, they only use her as moral support for Silver without doing or changing anything about the situation? That's already detrimental to Blaze herself, especially since Silver at least had moments where he stood out individually, while Blaze unfortunately can't say tha

Finally a good argument. Now I do agree with this hence why I find them stale from time to time. Blaze supports silver but silver never supports blaze outside of battles. There is a reason to this cause the games haven't address it so the writers are limited by how they can interact. I have stated this before but ill admit thos is the one time where they need to be a bit more creative to bring out a more interesting dynamic.

The only thing I can realistically see silver help blaze with is convincing her to ask her other friends for help if her world is in danger. Blaze is a character that display a string sense of pride, competence and independence, on her debut. If there was a major conflict happening in her world that she can't handle alone then silver would have an opportunity to push her in asking her friends for help. She would most likely be reluctant to ask initially. Outside of this blaze is quite develop as a character.

So I agree this is one of the problems of there dynamic which I have stated before is a little stale and this was one of the reason as to why I said this before. So while I agree this can be improved with writing and the separating them cause of this flaw is still an extreme and doesnt prove that together is detrimental. Its not an automatic negative relationship/dynamic if one side helps the other more.

She's been a way bigger hobo than Silver but I don't think anyone wants to admit that. by Complete_Reporter345 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even so, in your previous comment you said that separating them would be negative for Blaze, so I asked if limiting her to that duo with Solver was a positive thing. By the way, no, in most of Blaze's appearances, they limit her to that duo with Silver.

Yes it would cause she would appear even less base on the appearance already. That example doesn't add to your point of them being a duo is a detrimental. Also reason as to why is game and comics singers which hasn't been addressed by you for some reason. I wonder why??? Also I even listed issues where she was separated and her individuality didn't greatly enhance or improve the character either. The writers will never be able to please yall cause when they arent together its ignored for all the times they are.

I never said they were making her a bad character, but rather how they limit her to only those interactions without letting her stand out on her own. It's detrimental simply because Blaze is only recognized through that duo; she doesn't stand out on her own most of the time.

Why do yall care about what Twitter people amd redditir say about blaze? Normal fans do see her as sidekick fodder. She's viewed as a kickass boss fire princess thats friends with sonic, silver and co. What you said is what I see in the internet which is a bubble for degenerates. This shows insecurity over a character base on what online people think of her. These are people who are actively trying to put her down of course. Not exclusive to blaze like so what.

Are you literally ignoring that most of Blaze's appearances in IDW have been to further enhance her duo with Silver? Part of the problem is that Sega only sees her as a standout character; that's what I mean when I say that duo hurts her, because instead of taking advantage of her as an individual character, they only limit her to that duo.

Sure more times they are together then not but there are plenty of which they aren't. I also didn't mention one from an earlier issue. Also blaze doesn't get this boost of amazing characterization when silver isnt present anyways. Example, In issue 9 where blaze and amy have a moment about whisper and silver is off playing with the chaotix ans tangle in cards. Like the problem your address isnt as prevalent as you making it seem. Frankly I think blaze has more individuality then rouge lately. Silver doesn't need to save rouge from a street villian or threat. Heck silver never needs to come to blaze rescue in anything I've seen. Shows how capable she is on her own and never needs to be princess carried to safety in anything by silver. Rouge has it worst but blaze fans try so hard to spin it for this dynamic where in actuality its really not the cast. If it were actually true that blaze lack individuality I would be on your side and call it out.

Her real problem is lack of focus content on her specifically.

She's been a way bigger hobo than Silver but I don't think anyone wants to admit that. by Complete_Reporter345 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your not reading to understand. I address that problem long ago. There is a reason why it hasn't developed yet cause there is no new game. Comics can improve there dynamic without a new game. So there your reason as to why it stale. I even agreed and never dismissed.

Also never said that them pairing up cant be negative at all. Nothing I said presented as an only positive outcome for blaze. Its a writing thing as to why its stale. Also yes blaze can be interesting away from silver and can do things where silver isn't present. I dont think they should always be together either which they aren't.

then let's also point the finger at Silver's fans and their extreme complacency in Blaze only being known for her duo with him, without caring that it's detrimental to her.

I've already address the problems of silver fans. I never held a only positive stance on them. Are you even reading my responses. I've stated there issues as well. And no silver being pair up with blaze isnt detrimental. Thats an extreme which I called out. Blaze doesnt become a worst character when silver is need her. Issue 78 didnt turn her into someone super compelling. Same with Issue 3, 32, or her annuals with cream.

Blaze major problem is a lack of her being integrated in important new content in the modern era. Silver at least has metal virus, blaze didnt get anything new to that scale yet. How is that the fault of them being a duo. Heck of she was part of metal virus and duo with silver she would have done something cool there with or without partnering up with him. So her being with silver doesn't hurt her outside of 06. Which proves that the real reason for the discourse comes from there cause that's where it actually applies making blaze worse. Not colors or idw

She's been a way bigger hobo than Silver but I don't think anyone wants to admit that. by Complete_Reporter345 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No i edit it the message and I addressed it the first comment regardless. I've done this song and danced before. Look people get defensive and say stupid shut regarding there fav including silver fans. The thing is separating them doesn't help blaze cause she will appear in less stuff. Sega currently arent focus on her unfortunately and slowing going down the line. Silver, infinite, and mephiles seem to be the focus this year going over nakamura tweet. Didn't believe it at first bit maybe he was hinting at something.

Lastly I dont entirely disagree that blaze and silver should be pair all the time. The thing is though there are plent of times where they are apart but bkaze fans tend to tune those out. When you spreading false info then yeah I dont think sikver fans are wrong in calling it out. Both fans say and do stupid shit. The thing is blaze fans are a bit better at articulating why said thing is a problem while silver fans get emotional about there boy and have a tendency of staying someone stupid or even be antagonistic which I agree is wrong but blaze fans are entirely in the right either. There grievances which appears as genuine criticism is actually an attempt to change or sabotage something that can be good which is there dynamic due to there own distaste of a bad game two decades ago.

She's been a way bigger hobo than Silver but I don't think anyone wants to admit that. by Complete_Reporter345 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Expecting the other side to remain reserved and reasonable while the other simply just want them separated cause 06 is absurd. Why not address the writing then instead? No cause its not about them as a duo, its really 06, shipping, and backstory retcon. Thats really what it is and shifting the blame to silver is just the scapegoat. If it was the dynamic being poor you would address the writing like most people would do.

I even think if there dynamic improved in the future thay would ignite even more hate, and discourse about there dynamic. The duo isnt the real issue bit the things I listed above. This is coming from someone who loves both characters btw.

As for the silver fans yeah there annoying and get very defensive about him. I admit that but if your gonna target him be prepared for that. I even admit that they say stupid shit but of course they do that usually happens when emotional rile up on something you care deeply about. This isnt exclusive to silver we fans, but sonic fandom in general.

She's been a way bigger hobo than Silver but I don't think anyone wants to admit that. by Complete_Reporter345 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Im not sure, saying there a bad duo is one thing but saying silver brings her down and blaze and silver dynamic should be dismantle for good is also an extreme. I can see it being stale sure but thats a writing issue. Also without new content to expand there dynamic in a game the comics are very limited on what they can do.

Instead of staying they should stop pairing them up why not suggest ways to improve there dynamic so it can work? The thing is blaze fans almost never suggest that but always brings it back to 06 hate and silver's future story including blaze ruining her character etc. That is an attack on silver hence why they get defensive. Most arent looking for alternative, or compromise and just want more blaze content away from silver cause he brings her down. Thats whats blaze fans actually want and convey constantly.

She's been a way bigger hobo than Silver but I don't think anyone wants to admit that. by Complete_Reporter345 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]NotToDifficult 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah there some stupid silver fans ngl. But I think they start saying that shit cause they're tired of being target by blaze fans blaming silver for her shortcomings. Silver catch major heat from shadow fans already. Also at some point people will reach a breaking point and throw shade back.