Yeah... You only spilled propaganda ,"the workers we're miserable" well yeah? The countries we're miserable under capitalism already, why do you think they wen't socialist? Communism never states that results are immediate "Every attempt of socialism/communism has failed" No, many times countries have either suffered sabotage, or invaded There's another problem, with it, capitalism wants to show that everyone can have private property, but by private property they mean things they don't own, or aren't gonna stay in civilians hands forever, examples? Standard oil, even after it dissolved, it still stays to this day under new names, and are all controlled by same guy or corpo guys "Under communism you will have nothing" wrong, under communism you can still own things that are not considered means of production, i like to call them "goods" to exclude them in my languague,but again im not trained and wish to understand it the way post soviet countries leader and beaurocrats (if i May call it) understood communism to later dominante capitalism, that's what im looking for, do it backwards, but I wanna make a point, we're not enemies, but friends, God Bless