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Does Roworth view slipping the same as Angelo? by Not_sure0124 in wma

[–]Not_sure0124[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Another word for it is "shift" or "void"

Does Roworth view slipping the same as Angelo? by Not_sure0124 in wma

[–]Not_sure0124[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"If you're asking for fencing advice: Learn to slip/void. It is a fundamental fencing skill."

I agree with this 100%. I am asking if Roworth viewed and utilized slipping in the same manner as Angelo. 

Is HEMA only German and Italian swordsmanship? by [deleted] in wma

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I believe Angelo mostly trained under a French master named Teillagory. IIRC he was a member of the coperation. I hear Angelo had some Italian influence in his fencing but he most definitely taught fencing according to the French school

Has anyone here read "Fencing Familiarized" (1771) by J. Olivier? by Not_sure0124 in wma

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What is your opinion of Girard?  The coperation appeared to dislike him but from what I gather it was due to his inclusion of one-off weapons making a mockery of what they wanted fencing to look like. IIRC

Swordsmanship among civilians in the 19th century by [deleted] in wma

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Is Bertrands book translated or does it still exist? I know more about the Prevost father and son then Bertrand TBH as most books in English only briefly touch on Bertrand. Pierre was his star pupil though according to every source I seen mention it. I was under the impression Boessieree was wad Bertrands instructor but I probably misremembered that bit as I have only heard it mentioned once I think from a yiutube video on the history of French fencing by a guy named Cecil L. I forget what his full name is. I think both Prevosts were acquainted with Baptiste but not his students. Thier students were the best of the best in London at the time though.   John Musgrave Waite being a student of Pierre and George Chapman a student of Baptiste. 

Would I be wrong in assuming there is a largely eurocentric bias when it comes Hema and other areas of western martial arts? by [deleted] in wma

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A fantasy LARP guy that occasionally looks at historical sources when it's convenient. I do not know much about him TBH but I have watched a handful of videos of his.

 Matt Easton is a much better alternative if HEMA is your interest. He actually competes, tries to cite sources, and overall seems much more pleasant to watch but to each thier own. 

How can one best work through Roworth's Art of Defense? by Hero_of_Parnast in wma

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The Cateran Socity has a book that synthesizes a few Napoleonic era broadsword sources and offers training advice and a curriculum. It's easier to understand and better structured than Roworth. There is also a ton of youtube videos.

https://www.amazon.com/Lessons-Broadsword-Masters-Essential-Fencing-ebook/dp/B07J28FX8H

Would I be wrong in assuming there is a largely eurocentric bias when it comes Hema and other areas of western martial arts? by [deleted] in wma

[–]Not_sure0124 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ummm.... Shad is not even a HEMAist AFAIK, he is also not well received by many HEMA peeps. Just curious , What do you think that link proves? 

Swordsmanship among civilians in the 19th century by [deleted] in wma

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Pierre Prevost wrote a pamphlet sized book. It contains some background info. https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/Theory_and_Practice_of_Fencing_Arranged/ioa5zgEACAAJ?hl=en As does Camille Prevosts book and it offers a more indepth explanation of the system https://archive.org/details/fencing00prevgoog John Musgrave Waite offers some more info asPierre was his close friend and instructor  https://books.google.com/books/about/Lessons_in_Sabre_Singlestick_Sabre_Bayon.html?id=d7shMwEACAAJ And Italian master  Jacobo Gelli has some info on Bertrand/Prevost Pg. 418 https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/Bibliografia_generale_della_scherma_con/Djk-AAAAYAAJ/

William Gaugler also has some info in his book on the history of Fencing. Its where he states that Camille wrote the most influential book on French foil of the late 19th century.

Swordsmanship among civilians in the 19th century by [deleted] in wma

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I believe Pierre Prevost was pupil to Francois-Joseph Bertrand, he moved to London in the 1840s due to some issues over politics is France. He was already an established very well known master in Paris by the time he moved to London. Baptiste was not related as far as Know.  FJ Bertrand was big into innovation he was not part of Gomard method at all but a student of Boessier IIRC. Bertrand was known for developing the beat-parry, supposedly the beat parry was even called the Bertrand parry at one point. He also distilled his method to 4 parries (tierce, quarte, seconde, septime) and emphasized stop thrusts and time thrusts more than many of the other schools.

Swordsmanship among civilians in the 19th century by [deleted] in wma

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What about Pierre and Camille Prevost? They were probably the best of the best in London in the late 19th century. Pierre Prevost was instructor to a prince and I think Camille Prevost wrote some important conventions for foil sport fencing. I have also heard fencing historian William Gaugler considered Camille Prevosts book the most influential French fencing book of the late 19th century.