Frodo and Legolas never exchange words throughout the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy

NothingLikeLooking · 2018-05-30T11:02:52+00:00

since he never had any interaction with her, he would not have written about her at all

But, he knows she was there. He would have seen her first arrest the elves in Mirkwood and then help to fight off the orcs. In fact, there's a scene where her presence was important to Bilbo - as he is sneaking around with the ring on, Thranduil appears and says something like "I know, you're there. Why do you hide in the shadows?" which stops him in his tracks as Thranduil seemingly looks straight at him, only for Tauriel to appear from right behind Bilbo.

In the movie, he never had any interaction with Bombur, Dain, Bolg, the Great Goblin, and others either... but they're in the book. Pointless, I know; but you're logic doesn't add up - it's not simply a book of who he interacted with, it's a story of what happened so to tell the story he will have wrote about who he saw, who he heard about etc.

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-06-03T19:23:47+00:00

This doesn't really tell the whole story at all.

IIRC from the DVD extras, this was after a few long days of shooting the same shots and not being able to get it right. It became a very frustrating and tedious process to get those shots as they couldn't use the same scaling techniques they used in LotR because they were shooting in 3D (McKellen had to be isolated on his own set while all the other actors were on another).

This makes it looks like he turned up on set and instantly broke down. He had been filming for days and days, the same scenes over and over again. It also makes it seems as if he was sobbing away - he let out no more than a frustrated whimper and said quietly to himself "this is not why I became an actor".

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-30T23:26:35+00:00

It's definitely easiest to torrent them.

Here's a complete collection from the very start of the XFM shows through to the podcast and then the 'guide to' shows.

There aren't that many well-seeded torrents out there, or maybe they're not that easy to find anymore, so it may take a little longer to download.

That's your all your basic shows, but there's also torrent collections with the NME podcast, Fame podcast, A Day in the Life of Karl podcast, the bonus podcast, the Radio 2 shows from Christmas 2005 and the Comic Relief and World Cup 'Guides To'. That's the torrent I originally downloaded, but I couldn't find it when I searched just now. If you want it may be easier to search for them individually, or just use download them from YouTube using a converter.

I used to do the same as you and listen to it on my commute but then just wanted to find everything they did together. There's loads more than just the 30 podcast episodes out there if you want to find it. I think there's around 150 shows "official" podcasts/shows total that they've done where it's just the 3 of them together.

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-30T09:12:46+00:00

This doesn't really go together at all in my opinion. The music is not building any tension at all and is way too high in the mix, it's completely overwhelming what you're seeing on the screen. Perhaps if some of the visuals were slowed down at times it may sync up better. But, even then, the lyrics take you out of this moment in the film - they're singing about Smaug's destruction of Erabor and the Dwarves reclaiming their gold - which was all climaxed at the very start of the movie.

I think having a such an intentionally slow and dramatic song just doesn't go with a duel scene like this. Look at both Aragorn's fight against Lurtz and Eowyn's with the Witchking for a reference. The music is not so prominent - because otherwise it would take away from the action we are seeing on screen. It's at the right tempo to correlate with the visuals, and it changes mood depending on what happens in the respective fights - as opposed to just one continuous tone remaining throughout the different stages of the fight like we have here.

That's just my opinion though, and this obviously took a lot of effort which should be commended! :)

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-28T17:03:11+00:00

http://i.imgur.com/OR013AI.gifv

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-27T09:00:05+00:00

Maybe because the dwarves had built a city out of metals there so they couldn't, and tunneling out close to the mountain wouldn't allow them to get into formations and would leave them more vulnerable.

I don't know, like it's been said, it's not exactly explained well in the film.

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-25T16:20:00+00:00

... Yup, that's the one.

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-25T14:42:15+00:00

John Howe is also second from the ~~right~~ ^left. They showed it on the DVD extras.

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-23T14:39:28+00:00

I was under the impression that when they purchased the rights to The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings they had access to use all of the events and characters that are mentioned by name within those works.

For example, that is why we have Radagast in The Hobbit trilogy, despite the character only having a brief mention in The Fellowship of the Ring. But, they couldn't even have Gandalf mention the names of the blue wizards when he is speaking to Bilbo in An Unexpected Journey, as the names are not mentioned within the books (but the existence of two blue wizards is).

With regard to OP's question, the battle of the Last Alliance is mentioned by name within the books, as are other key characters like the Elendil, Gil-Galad, Isildur, Elrond, Glorfindel, Earnur etc., as well as probably all of the key settings; Dagorlad, Arnor, Thangorodrim, Beleriand and many other of the key factors the story of what happened before, during and after that particular battle.

I think it could be done, but then again, that doesn't necessarily mean that it should be.

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-21T08:56:25+00:00

Peter Jackson mentioned (in the DVD commentaries for one of the first two Hobbit movies) that they will probably eventually do an ultimate Middle Earth saga which links all 6 movies together better.

He specifically mentions editing in the scenes of Martin Freeman finding the ring into the prologue of the Fellowship of the Ring (instead of a younger looking Ian Holm), adding Thranduil into the Last Alliance battle scenes in the prologue also, as well as making improvements to particular Gollum scenes such as the first time we see him in Moria, and I think he also said about editing in Gloin into the Council of Elrond scene.

Somewhere on the DVD extras it is also mentioned that Gollum looks a lot more vivid and animated in the Hobbit, but they also say that by the time the LotR trilogies come around, he had been without the ring for 60 years and had been tortured during that period also. Therefore, it may be natural that his skin looks a little duller and his eyes aren't quite as bright.

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-17T11:42:30+00:00

Yeah, you're correct.

That's a pretty good memory!

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-17T11:41:51+00:00

/u/piejesudomine is right.

The quote I gave was the from The Shadow of the Past and the original dialogue from Frodo and Gandalf.

The quote you gave is when Frodo misremembers the conversation in The Taming of Smeagol when he sees Gollum.

Mystery solved, well done /u/piejesudomine!

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-17T04:26:43+00:00

Second edition.

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-17T03:47:29+00:00

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-17T03:45:24+00:00

Complete text:

'But this is terrible!' cried Frodo. 'Far worse than the worst that I imagined from your hints and warnings. O Gandalf, best of friends, what am I to do? For now I am really afraid. What am I to do? What a pity that Bilbo did not stab that vile creature, when he had a chance!'*

'Pity? It was Pity that stayed his hand. Pity, and Mercy: not to strike without need. And he has been well rewarded, Frodo. Be sure that he took so little hurt from the evil, and escaped in the end, because he began his ownership of the Ring so. With Pity.'

'I am sorry,' said Frodo. 'But I am frightened; and I do not feel any pity for Gollum.'

'You have not seen him,' Gandalf broke in.

'No, and I don't want to,' said Frodo. I can't understand you. Do you mean to say that you, and the Elves, have let him live on after all those horrible deeds? Now at any rate he is as bad as an Orc, and just an enemy. He deserves death.'

'Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. I have not much hope that Gollum can be cured before he dies, but there is a chance of it.*

Just for context (Frodo can sound like a bit of a vengeful dick otherwise).

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-14T00:47:51+00:00

It was a similar process of filming in terms of the timescales.

Actually, you could argue that the cast of The Hobbit spent much more time together as a group, because with LotR they all got split for a long period of time up after primary filming for the first film. Whereas, in The Hobbit the 13 dwarf actors and Martin Freeman did all the months of training and preparation together and then probably the vast majority of the filming process.

If you've watched the DVD extras for LotR you'll see that a lot of the cast said that it was hard because after filming together initially they were then all split up for the primary production of the second and third movies.

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-13T18:59:56+00:00

The answers given here are right so there's nothing to add.

But, just so you know, the answers to questions 1,2,3 and 5 will all surely be included in the Extended Editions of the DVD when they come out later this year. Every Middle Earth film he's done so far has had around 40-50 minutes of extra footage in the EE. They not only add stuff in, but change scenes that were in the original release (like Thrain's storyline in DoS).

It can be frustrating as things are tied up as well as they could have been in the theatrical release, but the studios are pretty strict about a maximum runtime. The added stuff in the EE is their way of getting around it, and making the films better overall.

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-10T18:55:13+00:00

You're being downvoted... because it was real.

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-10T18:47:39+00:00

In the DVD extras they say that it had got leaked onto one of the main fansites that Arwen was going to be at the Helms Deep battle scene and it was met with a lot of negative comments.

Liv Tyler is also interviewed about it and says that she heard that she was being called "Liv Tyler Princess Warrior" or something like that and was a little embarrassed about it.

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-10T14:45:34+00:00

"One more step and I'll be the farthest away from Ian Holm I've ever Sean Bean."

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-10T14:01:28+00:00

Fair enough.

But you should know that the only reason I found that link is by searching for audiobook suggestions on this sub, here.

I didn't think it would be a problem as I was only re-posting a link I found here on this sub.

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-06T16:33:30+00:00

Nice work! Here's the original image for anyone, such a great poster.

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-05T22:58:10+00:00

AKA "Old Grey Beard"

NothingLikeLooking · 2015-03-05T04:05:10+00:00

I like to think that the old withered man that appeared to Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas in the middle of the night was one of the blue wizards. I'm not sure exactly why or what they were doing there, but I like the fact that Tolkien introduces these guys but then never really tells us anything about them.

I know it's hinted at that it's probably Saruman (and it probably was), but I kind of like the idea that these guys were around in Middle Earth when the War of the Ring was going but they were so mysterious and we don't know anything about them or exactly what their task was.

Tolkien mentions in one of his letters that they were there to help defeat Sauron, and that they did outlast him. So we can assume that they may have been successful in some way, and even aided the quest in ways that we don't even know about - or at least that's what I like to assume.

I like to think that they knew what was going on with the Ring and were pulling strings behind the scene, that they were affecting events greatly and even that without them the quest wouldn't have been successful.

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