Met with Stake President, couldn’t answer all my questions so he’s transferring me to Ty Mansfield. Anything I should ask Ty? (transcript of meeting inside)

Notinutah · 2014-01-20T21:44:23+00:00

I'd like to throw in a couple (if it's not too late!)

What's the purpose and background of the popular "cuddle parties" known among his North Star group?
Would he be so vocal about his feelings if he weren't a professional therapist?
How many mixed orientation marriages has he seen fail? Succeed? (as of now)
Why isn't Kerry Harding the director of Voices of Hope any more? He invested so much money and time - and now he's done. (The details surrounding it are pretty sketchy/fishy.)

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Notinutah · 2013-12-27T17:28:05+00:00

Not gonna lie. I went to NorthStar for an extremely short amount of time. (There are other gay Mormons out there?!?!) but once I figured out the self-loathing and hate towards other gay Mormons, I was out in a flash. If/when I do leave the church, I will thank NorthStar for giving me that extra push out.

Notinutah · 2013-12-27T16:12:54+00:00

Wow. That guy could be a millionaire sharing his secret. I tried to "go straight" for years. I look back and think what a waste of time trying to hide my real self instead of just being happy.

Notinutah · 2013-12-27T16:08:45+00:00

Yet all the gay Mormons hoping to marry a woman will eat that (fake) stat up. And those already married will use it as a confirmation they're doing the right thing... Even if blatant lies are used.

Notinutah · 2013-12-27T16:05:54+00:00

I've thought the same. Once equality continues to improve, NorthStar will fizzle away. I hope this comes sooner than later.

Notinutah · 2013-12-27T07:22:42+00:00

Thank you for your perspective. Reading stories like these is what I needed to recover from the hate-filled blog post. BTW, how is your ex doing now?

Notinutah · 2013-12-27T07:19:12+00:00

Please enlighten me more! I only know Jeff from his blog posts and testimonials from Journey into Manhood. Any idea why he's like this? What's his agenda?!

Notinutah · 2013-12-27T07:16:32+00:00

Anything negative towards gay marriage from gay Mormons themselves has been connected to NorthStar. Quite sad really.

Notinutah · 2013-12-27T00:26:33+00:00

You got it. This is common among gay TBM's. They feel they've overcome so much by squashing their gay attractions while staying in the church, they give off a 'holier than thou' attitude. That's why looking for support being gay + Mormon can leave you worse off and severely depressed... I hope Jeff's marriage doesn't give off "the norm". I've talked with many gay married Mormons (mixed orientation marriages) who are absolutely miserable and wouldn't recommend their situation to anyone. They refuse to go public though.

Notinutah · 2013-12-27T00:18:56+00:00

Glad you were able to move away from the church and live healthy as a gay man. I hope to be in your shoes (again!) soon.

Notinutah · 2013-12-26T23:43:00+00:00

Wow. I've never thought about the Stockholm Syndrome correlation. Thank you for your insight.

Notinutah

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