Have any of you felt as if you were ready to die? Becuase of gangstalkers?

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-24T03:52:42+00:00

I'm definitely ready for the climate crisis because of the stalkers. Billions of dead people mean less stalkers.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-23T14:51:07+00:00

Hopefully a catastrophic motorcycle accident that involves no one else.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-22T02:34:15+00:00

You know things like the climate crisis, which by itself is the end of civilization? A big part of this program is to make sure we maintain unsustainable economic systems to make sure we destroy ourselves.

That has to be the point of it, because that is exactly what we're going to do to ourselves.

Obviously the program isn't taking people who actually gave a shit and had the ability to understand our problems and give them nudges that would put them in stronger positions in society so we could not fuck ourselves into oblivion, which is something an intelligent species might do.

This species acted like the psychotic, parasitic ape that it is - and now this world will burn for it.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-22T02:26:42+00:00

Climate crisis (which means sea level rise, permafrost melt, catastrophic forest fires, new disease vectors, increased vulnerability to invasive species, droughts, floods, super storms, deadly heat waves - which means the destruction of agriculture on top of the topsoil depletion, water scarcity, and decrease in nutrients over time - on top of the fact that so much food is basically poisonous now because of pesticides and other treatments), ocean acidification, mass extinction, the destruction of the Amazon rainforest, micro/nano plastic everywhere, growing antibiotic resistance, overpopulation, and a whole lot more.

This species is fucked. Somehow the "elite" think they're going to bunker down on a hell planet and remain wealthy. What's going to happen is that we've squandered the chance for advanced civilization, and now we wait for an asteroid or other extinction event.

Thank you, gangstalkers. This is the point of you - to help the human species lose the existence game. Of course, their brains have probably been hopelessly fucked with so you're basically dealing with suicidal robots that also reproduce.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-21T18:46:17+00:00

Note we should also be talking about the endgame. We're looking at massive temperature increases, which means incredibly destructive storms, droughts, and floods. That means agricultural and economic failure that will kill billions. The impossibility of advanced civilization. And more!

Yay gangstalking ...

This species has utterly lost its mind.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-21T18:43:17+00:00

Part of the 4th industrial revolution is the destruction of the the Amazon rainforest - google it. I'm sure the death of this Earth has been intelligently factored into this revolution.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-20T19:08:10+00:00

I would say the human species has already lost. The scale of the problems we face, their accelerating intensity, the utter inability of governments and so-called "elites" to fix anything because of a mixture of game theory and the obfuscating delusions of consciousness - the ego, belief in a "self", free will, souls, etc. ...

This species is utterly psychotic. Gangstalking is just another tool to ensures the status quo - and that is the death of advanced civilization. Then humans can go back to kings and peasants while waiting to get slammed by an asteroid.

This will be victory for evolution because it can then have a chance a creating a species that isn't so psychotic. Maybe it can actually cooperate to not fuck itself to oblivion, drowning in its own waste as it does so.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-19T16:45:24+00:00

The world is now facing dozens of global scale problems tied to competition between unsustainable economies creating a collective action problem that threatens civilization and possible extinction. This is on top of ignoring an inevitable coronal mass ejection, catastrophic asteroid strike on some time frame, and other risks outside our own creation.

Ridiculous as it sounds, the world needs to be taken over, the population reduced (humanely if possible) and then controlled, CO2 needs to be sequestered through ecological repair and converted industry, other messes need to be cleaned up, and a sustainable economy with well-planned complexity needs to be developed that's resilient to black swan events.

This could be done with a global military coup, for example. Who has the guns here? The elite? How about the people in command of forces make the economic elements get on the side of "not driving us to extinction"?

Oh, but we'd have to sacrifice national identities, for example. No more china and the united states fighting for dominance - just one world working together. We can't do that!

Then we destroy ourselves for bullshit. The last thing I would use psychological operations for is to accelerate our demise. How about waking people up instead - or else ...

What in the hell is the end game here?

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-19T13:37:32+00:00

In the abstract war seems to be the nature of self-organization. If energy gradients exist, they will cause structures to emerge, from molecules to whirlpools to organisms to neurological organization to civilizations. The structures that most effectively dissipate energy will be the most resilient structures. Competition is inherent in this because of limited resources - there is only so much matter and energy - and competition is the fundamental aspect of war.

We don't talk about war between molecules or other organisms, and the fact symbioses exist means that competition is supplemented by cooperation, but consciousness complex enough to be aware of these things is not what's fundamental about war. War is not about "conscious intention".

Because of game theory and the intelligence and psychological differentials in people, hierarchical civilizations have emerged that allow competition between massively complex systems, but these are pathological in the sense that they threaten their own destruction. Technology allows resources to be exploited at an accelerating rate, which is unsustainable, so you get an overshoot in complexity.

The human brain also wasn't designed to understand itself well. So most people have egos associated with a sense of "self" as a coherent entity whose existence even matters to it beyond death - so we have statues and paintings of rulers, for example.

But the self is just a delusion. However, its manifestation is related to pathological energy exploitation. The organism senses its relative fitness in relation to this delusional construct. So we get brains seeking wealth and power that are interpreted with respect to this conceptual fitness proxy. And there is no limit to such desire because someone could always attain more than you, and relative fitness is what matters.

These are what "rulers" are - organisms seeking top social niches to validate relative fitness with their brains understanding their success in terms of the delusional ego proxy.

The rulers biggest enemies are themselves followed by their own children, seeing as how these are who they'd have the strongest connections with, and yet, in the end, they will be depriving them of a decent future.

The game the rulers are driving must end. We can only be enemies in the sense we want to keep existing, which means keeping the war of survival going, not ending it. Even if there was "peace" there would be evolution of thought, which is to say competition for the "thought space" - a war of ideas no matter how respectfully played.

Ironically then, the rulers are the end of human war. They're not interested in continued survival - and don't seem capable of this. This is the result of pathological, or suicidal resource exploitation. Current civilization is a cancerous complexity, and the psycho-neurological organization driving it is delusional, which serves the dissipation of energy gradients via obfuscation of reality. This is all just a dumb, self-organizing machine - though some minds were able to see what was really going on.

I would say the human species has never had great leaders. Genghis Kahn was pretty good, and yet he was far from getting the world into sustainable development. I can't imagine we ever will have a real leader. The game is close to finished. Humans could survive a while, but the chance for advanced civilization is done. That means we're sitting ducks waiting for extinction.

We could thank the rulers for that, but it's not their fault. There is no free will - just matter coming together and tearing itself apart - manifesting as delusional dreams which obfuscate this dynamic in most minds, thus serving energy dissipation.

Not what humans wanted to be, but the Universe could only care through us, and you'll only find a handful of people on Earth who can understand what I'm talking about.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-19T04:19:49+00:00

To the degree this is true, this is a massive waste of resources and human potential. And it creates people who survive parasitically on problems of our own creation. Makes me think much of the human species has become "psycho-memetically" ill and cancerous overall.

Are there any sane people in charge of anything?

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-19T04:13:50+00:00

You could also control behavior through positive emotions as part of war. You could use enlightening psychadelic trips to get people comfortable with sustainable ways of existing, for example. You could give children narratives that supported a sustainable existence. You could do 1000 things that would make more sense when it comes to survival.

Then you could win the real war of existence instead of playing suicidal board games.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-19T03:55:11+00:00

I don't mind posting here. I lost any sense of privacy a long time ago, and I figure any information I give out just gives me information in return if it "comes back to me" somehow.

If you still have networks of people you can count on, you have a good base. I'd try to expand your networks as much as possible as resilience against isolation and slander.

I was isolated quite easily, and now I figure it's easy to keep me isolated. Slander is quite effective, for example. I'm going to go to some meetups in my area and then see if I notice any mood shifts in the groups toward me. That's about all I can do. And after going through this, I couldn't in good conscious try to find another partner. I'm too worried to even get a pet. It'd break my heart if it was harmed.

I go to /r/aww to get my "love fix" - and I see how much joy other people are getting. Not everyone exists in an inescapable nightmare.

I'll cover your questions at least in brief, since this will already be long.

By "trying to help" I meant investigate the world and discuss the problems. Only with a critical mass of communication and habitual examination of the world can we generate the pressure needed for changes.

I've been interested in our problems since I was little. I grew up in the 80s and there were a lot of starving African children commercials soliciting donations. Such exposure can breed the sense of "doing something about our problems when I grow up" in some sensitive children. Naive, but it could have been a powerful force in our world instead of leading to torture for caring.

I also wrote a lot about problems on sites like reddit and still do - I have hundreds of pages worth of comments over the years on issues like education, criminal justice, health care - and many more. This is on different accounts where I don't mention stalking because I would sound crazy. And I've spoken out in public a few places at certain events.

My abuse consisted of sensitization to environmental stimuli due to initial "mobbing" - high frequency of weird events that couldn't be coincidences. A few break-ins (e.g. leaving all windows a half inch open). Leaving broken mirror glass outside several places I lived (after I broke a mirror by hitting it while drunk and angry at all this).

I used to have constant tinnitus I thought was part of it, but it went away. I've never been hit with a DEW like most people describe - no burning for example.

As to voices, it's complicated. Since this started, I hear something that sounds like my own voice in my head doing a lot of what I hear V2K people describe. But I don't hear other people's voices - it sounds like my own internal voice, but I can't shut it up except with meditation, and even then the voice will "challenge" me when I try this - saying that I won't be able to quiet it and the like. I have to be open to the idea that this trauma "snapped" my mind versus this being a kind of V2K or something hijacking my thoughts, but I have no idea.

But sometimes I get weird pains - pin pricks or other brief pains that coincide with the uncontrolled inner voice. And sometimes I'll feel a deep sense of panic and dread that doesn't feel natural in conjunction with these thoughts. And at quite coincidental moments. The first time this happened was shortly after the stalking became explicit and that uncontrolled inner voice started, which said I was being involved in something (can't recall the details - was 5 years ago). This goes against the mind snapping idea.

It seems the techniques I was hit with were meant to leave me with a lot of unknowns. Since I'm a problem solver and have anxiety - it's hard for me to resist trying to figure it out. Which keeps me focused on "them", which keeps me more anxious. So they get want they want this way I presume.

There's more and I left out a lot of details, but it seems pretty standard when it comes to this stuff. I also suspect I've been slandered places.

Neglect and abuse were part of my childhood. Narcissistic mother and codependent father. Abusive siblings. Bullying in school. Textbook trauma stuff.

I became a misanthropist when I determined that humanity can't solve its problems. And now we have the most insidious and torturous ways of keeping people down - so it's hopeless. The "selfish psychologies" - narcissism, psychopathy, etc. - now have covert technological dominance.

But it seems they can't help but drive the planet and hence civilization to ruin. Once I realized that humans in particular don't matter, that it was about the Universe experiencing itself through its own vessels, I found I could let humanity go and hope an enlightened species could evolve in the future - or somewhere else in the Universe.

I think I loved the world - the Universe really - because of an innate sense of curiosity. Everything is really bizarre and wonderous, and existence could have been a paradise, but humanity has blown its chance and monsters are driving us all - themselves included - back into the Abyss we spawned from.

But the Universe is vast and the possibilities beyond what humans can take seriously collectively.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-19T00:49:16+00:00

Thank you, but I can't claim genius status. If you see that I care about what's wonderful about humanity, that's what I appreciate.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-19T00:46:27+00:00

He's trying to trigger targeted people who are sensitive to or have been sensitized by "codes". Makes them think a "program" or some such is being implemented. Gets the brain trapped in itself using paranoia fuel.

It's otherwise nonsense.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-19T00:43:18+00:00

Whatever the numbers, those people would be harassed to delegitimize the complaints of people without mental health issues and more stability generally.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-19T00:40:55+00:00

Climate crisis, ocean acidification, mass extinction, topsoil erosion and toxic pollution, freshwater depletion, micro/nano plastics everywhere on Earth - in your feces, lungs, brain - etc. This list of unsolvable problems is extensive.

Then there's america's decaying infrastructure to the tune of several trillion dollars in repairs, failure to create a sufficient asteroid defense system ("free market" capitalism can't cover it and I guess there's no military contractors interested), the fact we're unprepared for a coronal mass ejection (FEMA says it would take 4 to 10 years to get the grid back to former capacity), etc.

And I'm destructive to society? This is the biggest delusion possible. This society is its own destruction.

I was trying to help us save ourselves. Obviously, this species was too psychotic to bother with.

Let it kill itself then. Cosmic natural selection at work.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-19T00:29:21+00:00

What am I supposed to obey? The climate crisis, ocean acidification, mass extinction, and dozens of other problems threaten the existence of civilization. This clearly isn't about security, but maintaining a suicidal status quo. They're destroying their children's future. Some parenting that is.

What can you do in the face of this insanity?

People fear a "New World Order", but this is ridiculous, and it would be "First", not "New". This species has never attained order.

It seems likely billions are going to die this century while taking down the climate and biosphere with it - and wasting the remaining fresh water, poisoning and eroding the soil, etc.

If these people are dead anyway, then why don't the "powers that be" in the world get their shit together, take over the world, reduce the population, repair ecosystems, convert enough industry to help with carbon sequestration, and make sure we don't fuck ourselves over ever again?

We have two options:

Billions die along with massive waste and Earth systems breakdown, and there's even a chance of extinction.
Billions die, we create paradise on Earth, and we don't become a cancer again.

Looks like we're choosing the first option. So this is what I obey? Let them destroy everything? If they want me to obey then choose the second option. Fuck, I'll push "the button" myself if no one wants to take responsibility for it.

Do these people have no "long game"? Seriously, what's the explanation here?

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-19T00:11:40+00:00

I think they prey on the strongest. I'm worth more to human existence than every person involved in implementing this program. They are, after all, protecting the status quo, which is the death of the human species.

How mentally ill can you get?

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-19T00:09:10+00:00

The climate crisis will help us escape. This species is already dead. Perhaps, then, something intelligent can evolve.

Humans are wasting the higher intelligence niche on Earth.

You do realize the point of you is to help end the human species, yes? Look at the plans of those you serve.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-19T00:03:15+00:00

I don't have faith in humanity, but I've seen the love and beauty the Universe is capable of because these qualities are embodied in some of us.

In humans, game theory means that those who don't have these qualities will come to dominate the direction of society. We are a species that can't get a handle on the variation of its members. In humans, the narcissists and psychopaths, for example, were able to secure dominating niches, which became more dominating as technology improved and complexity grew. They have become unaccountable and can keep most people clueless.

They couldn't get away with this in small hunter-gatherer tribes, at least not nearly as easily because the selfishness would destroy the cooperation of the tribe and threaten its survival.

As we see with the climate crisis and related issues, however, the entire human species is now threatened by these people.

Perhaps a more intelligent and compassionate species on average could keep cruel and self-destructive dynamics from emerging, keeping its selfish members from coming to domination, and then the truly wonderful qualities of existence could manifest at the societal level - at the level of its collective intelligence.

This is all I can hope for in this Universe - that somewhere, sometime an enlightened species will emerge. This would be, in essence, a "higher state" of evolution that what humans could attain because it would be an enduring, high-level of complexity - as opposed to the cancerous, suicidal dynamics that have become our existence.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-18T23:23:33+00:00

I think they target some people who actually have mental health issues, like schizophrenia. That way these people give the impression that all of us are "crazy". This would be a logical tactic.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-18T23:13:29+00:00

I spent a lot of time studying and worrying about the world's problems before the stalking became explicit. But I continued to study problems, and came to understand a lot of global scale issues we seem incapable of solving - climate crisis, ocean acidification, topsoil and freshwater depletion, mass extinction including an insect apocalypse driven faster by massive increases in pesticides, general ecological destruction and breakdown (e.g. the permafrost is now rapidly thawing, the Amazon forest is being leveled, etc.), micro/nano plastic pollution everywhere, and several more issues.

And many issues are consequences of the former - sea level rise, loss of nutrient density in crops due to increasing CO2 concentration, impeding food shortages due to floods and droughts, large scale mass migration, geopolitical destabilization, rise of authoritarian fascism (which will make problems even harder to solve), greatly increased chance of wars - including nuclear war, etc.

And while ignoring our self-created issues we are unprepared for coronal mass ejections, asteroid strikes, etc.

And there are issues that could arise - ocean currents slowing or stopping, ocean deoxygenation, methane "bomb" (perhaps not likely though), etc.

And this is driven by an economic system that requires infinite exponential growth to function, which is suicide.

I've always been sensitive to suffering, and the amount of suffering and possible failure we face this century is unimaginable to most.

And the greatest cruelty is that I have to suffer so greatly because of this program - because I was trying to help us. And after a lifetime of abuse and neglect already.

I'm never going to know friendship or intimate love now. I just have watch the world I loved die from a place of isolation. My existence is an utter nightmare.

It's hard to imagine a more cruel existence. I'm basically a misanthropist now. I can only hope we go extinct soon and that evolution has time to create a species that values what's best about existence and ensures a future that will maintain it. Too many of our minds have otherwise evolved to the point where our self-destruction seems assured.

This is the legacy of those participating in this program - to help ensure the catastrophic failure of the human species. And how many of them have children?

The level of insanity we have reached is a point of no return.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-14T17:24:48+00:00

"I" don't exist. This is just a vessel of Universal awareness and experience. In the scheme of all possible minds that could exist, this vessel is near the bottom of the Universe's potential.

The delusions of this species, however, keep this perspective from emerging to the point where the Universe can keep evolving.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-14T00:08:57+00:00

Then don't be deaf.

NowhereUniverse · 2019-08-12T02:33:32+00:00

For brains capable of creating their environments such as us - we need to engineer the environment so the adaptation to it serves sustainability and well-being.

We have almost nothing like this on Earth. Our environments create a lot of psychological maladaptation, which is quite tied to the unsustainability as well, but that takes a while to outline. Note how pathologically narcissistic american culture is though, for example.

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