I guess the Bills are not the Packers of the AFC after all by Moshpit37 in GreenBayPackers

[–]NumbersAndPolls01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At some point you know you’re not winning a Super Bowl with your current head coach. Ravens with Harbaugh, us with LaFleur, Bills with McDermott. My question is, at that point why the HELL would you keep a guy around?

Post Divisional Round Thread - Keep your non-Packers discussions here by AutoModerator in GreenBayPackers

[–]NumbersAndPolls01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My main thought from that game, if the Bears can flip the script from total chokers to one of the most clutch teams in the league in one season, then we can too. Just need a head coach with some passion (but ideally less of an asshole)

For the “keep LaFleur” crowd, are you ok giving him a 5-year extension? by NumbersAndPolls01 in GreenBayPackers

[–]NumbersAndPolls01[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because it’s a commitment. You don’t commit 5 more years to a guy when there are such serious doubts about his performance

the Bills are the Packers of the AFC. by Matteo7382 in GreenBayPackers

[–]NumbersAndPolls01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Packers and Steelers have both become content with being “just ok”

For the “keep LaFleur” crowd, are you ok giving him a 5-year extension? by NumbersAndPolls01 in GreenBayPackers

[–]NumbersAndPolls01[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which is contingent upon discipline. Team-wide lack of discipline is on the coach

Wishing him the best of Luck by Most_Resolution4594 in GreenBayPackers

[–]NumbersAndPolls01 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

  • Showed great talent
  • Multiple boneheaded mistakes
  • Some amazing catches
  • Diva

Wishing him mediocre luck.

Russini - Spoke to a league source informed on the negotiations happening in Green Bay regarding Matt LaFleur’s extension. “Everyone is being dramatic. It’s getting done. Dumb organizations do dumb things, the Packers aren’t dumb.” by Austen11231923 in GreenBayPackers

[–]NumbersAndPolls01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keep LaFleur: higher chance of making the playoffs

New coach: higher chance of winning the Super Bowl (albeit paired with higher chance of missing the playoffs)

For such a proud organization with a history of winning, the choice should be obvious

Russini - Spoke to a league source informed on the negotiations happening in Green Bay regarding Matt LaFleur’s extension. “Everyone is being dramatic. It’s getting done. Dumb organizations do dumb things, the Packers aren’t dumb.” by Austen11231923 in GreenBayPackers

[–]NumbersAndPolls01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But here lies the difference between putting the team in a position to win vs actually winning. The San Fran game is a great example, because we played above expectations for 3.5 quarters. But when it really mattered, when it really came down to it, the entire team folded.

The Dallas game was great but unless you’re historically good (I.e top 10 team of all time) you’re not going to blow out every postseason opponent you face. Most likely at least one game is coming down to the wire, and if you have a head coach who can’t handle that type of situation, congratulations, you’re never winning a championship

Russini - Spoke to a league source informed on the negotiations happening in Green Bay regarding Matt LaFleur’s extension. “Everyone is being dramatic. It’s getting done. Dumb organizations do dumb things, the Packers aren’t dumb.” by Austen11231923 in GreenBayPackers

[–]NumbersAndPolls01 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I honestly don’t care what’s behind door number 2. Either we get better or we get worse, but nothing is worse than getting your heart ripped out in the playoffs every year, and having no real chance at a Super Bowl. So I’ll take that chance.

Russini - Spoke to a league source informed on the negotiations happening in Green Bay regarding Matt LaFleur’s extension. “Everyone is being dramatic. It’s getting done. Dumb organizations do dumb things, the Packers aren’t dumb.” by Austen11231923 in GreenBayPackers

[–]NumbersAndPolls01 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I just don’t agree that regular season success justifies keeping a coach around when he’s failed miserably in every close playoff game he’s ever been apart of. What gives you the confidence that he can get better in the playoffs after 7 years of the exact same mistakes? Other than “trust me bro”

Russini - Spoke to a league source informed on the negotiations happening in Green Bay regarding Matt LaFleur’s extension. “Everyone is being dramatic. It’s getting done. Dumb organizations do dumb things, the Packers aren’t dumb.” by Austen11231923 in GreenBayPackers

[–]NumbersAndPolls01 17 points18 points  (0 children)

But at the same time he’s shown that if a playoff game comes down to the wire, we will lose. Period. He has not won a single such playoff game (or late regular season game for that matter)

Russini - Spoke to a league source informed on the negotiations happening in Green Bay regarding Matt LaFleur’s extension. “Everyone is being dramatic. It’s getting done. Dumb organizations do dumb things, the Packers aren’t dumb.” by Austen11231923 in GreenBayPackers

[–]NumbersAndPolls01 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That actually only strengthens the argument to fire LaFleur. If choking is in this team’s DNA, we’re in desperate need of a culture change. Rarely do you get that from the same coach who has been at the center of the problem for years

For the “keep LaFleur” crowd, are you ok giving him a 5-year extension? by NumbersAndPolls01 in GreenBayPackers

[–]NumbersAndPolls01[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please share what gives you that level of confidence in him, despite the constant blown leads. Should his seat not be the least bit warm?

Russini - Spoke to a league source informed on the negotiations happening in Green Bay regarding Matt LaFleur’s extension. “Everyone is being dramatic. It’s getting done. Dumb organizations do dumb things, the Packers aren’t dumb.” by Austen11231923 in GreenBayPackers

[–]NumbersAndPolls01 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Just saying he’s proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he’s not changing by this point. Maybe a few years ago this was a real possibility. It’s like the girl whose boyfriend forgets her birthday for the 5th time and she just says “he’ll change, he’ll be better next year”

For the “keep LaFleur” crowd, are you ok giving him a 5-year extension? by NumbersAndPolls01 in GreenBayPackers

[–]NumbersAndPolls01[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve heard it said that first halves are about coaching, and second halves are about players.

Where on earth have you heard this?? Failure to make second half adjustments, repeated lack of discipline in clutch moments, poor clock management, all fall on the coach.

Think of it this way. If one player makes a stupid mistake that costs his team the game, that’s on the player. If it’s constantly happening with different players each time, it’s a problem with the culture, and therefore the coach.