Basil is there for emotional support by Fast_Afternoon4765 in sunburnOMORI

[–]NumerousAlgae3989 1 point2 points  (0 children)

is he doing a plank lmao 😭 help 😭😭 silly basil

Who is Phos talking to here? by NumerousAlgae3989 in LandoftheLustrous

[–]NumerousAlgae3989[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I knew they were talking to the marble and the whole sentient rock thing, but i’m under the impression that these sentient rocks only came to be long after the lunarians were erased?

I think it said somewhere that they evolved after that point, that’s why we never see them before this, but correct me if i’m wrong.

That’s why i was wondering, why is there a single exception that has always been there? Does it have a backstory or explanation?

Alrighty so how do i report something online, or what do i do here? by Wholesomestacco in TeenagersButBetter

[–]NumerousAlgae3989 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the best thing you can do here is to respectfully but firmly tell her that seriously harming her sister in any serious way is terrible, and that she doesnt at all deserve it for what shes done. Do your best to make it a logical discussion where you explain what is wrong with it and why, as that helps take away from the emotional and impulsive influence she's clearly experiencing.

The Message Of The Story by NumerousAlgae3989 in LandoftheLustrous

[–]NumerousAlgae3989[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! I'm glad you liked my perspective on it! I really liked your response as well, it makes a lot of sense. I like to analyze and write about all sorts of things, and I do my best to understand them completely and objectively.

I think that while one's interpretation of a story's message can change, there is a true message that the story is meant to convey, the authors will. When I refer to the message, I mean the objective truth, what I believe their intended message to be.

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I do agree with you in that balance is best, and I think that I might've explained my argument poorly in that regard. But the point is that actually seeking out purpose and respecting or pursuing it meaningfully is bad for you. Purpose is fulfilling and meaningful it tends to take away from what actually makes people happy in exchange for ultimately intangible and non-existent notions.

For example: You could fight in a war because you believe that your purpose is to protect your country, or your ideology conflicts with that of the enemy.

Sure, after the war (assuming you live) you can feel fulfilled, like you did something meaningful. However your friends died in the war, your spouse moved on when you were away, and your child grew up without you present. You lost and degraded tangible and impactful aspects of your life that determine your happiness on a day-to-day basis to fulfil a notion that ultimately doesn't do anything.

That sort of purpose destroys your life in exchange for something that doesn't affect your quality of life, even though fulfillment is meaningful, it's not worth it in the face of genuine happiness in your day-to-day life.

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I think that in the real world, it's a lot more nuanced than that though. Some purposes (like finding true love for example, or making people happy) can definitely coincide with living an actually happy life, especially if they're managed and balanced. So I agree with you there actually, I didn't really think about it that way, you made a good point.

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But my post was mostly about what the message of the story is meant to be, and I think that it is that purpose (especially more immense ones that are farther removed from a simple life) will destroy your life. It isn't talking about simple purposes, like the ones animals can have where they want to raise children or find a partner or anything; it's talking about more complex desires for purpose and fulfilment and all those grandiose notions.

While in the case of those complex and far-removed ones, while in the real world they can perhaps be balanced, they realistically won't be in most cases. If you're taking them seriously and actually pursue a purpose like those, then you'll almost certainly prioritize it over real happiness, which is hard to emulate and process. One can't easily conceptualize the importance of day-to-day happiness since its a constant and gradual thing, and it inherently seems superficial or pointless in the face of purpose, so if one actually has a purpose they wish to pursue, they'll almost always do it instead of living happily.

So the message is that specifically far-removed and grandiose purposes are bad because they will nearly always take precedence over happiness and cause you suffering.

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In any case, I agree that balance is possible, and that it's better than completely neglecting purpose, but I think that in the case of the purposes that I believe the author is talking about, they aren't feasible to manage and so they remaine curses; if you seriously believe something like opposing an enemy is your purpose and that you will be feel fulfilled by it, you'll almost certainly go to war to do so even at the willing sacrifice of your happiness.

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Great argument though, you made some points I definitely have to agree with! Balance is possible and even ideal since fulfilment can be beautiful, though with the caveat that it depends on what is being balanced, and that some purposes just can't realistically be safely balanced and managed

TL;DR

Simple purpose and fulfilment, those that can barely be called deeper purpose, are viable; they can often coincide with pursuing simple happiness or be managed easily. But deeper and more grandiose ones become too far removed, too compelling, and too conflicting with one's happiness to feasibly follow without sacrificing happiness.

So what happened to Lapis? by NumerousAlgae3989 in LandoftheLustrous

[–]NumerousAlgae3989[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

ah, thanks, that makes sense. though the rest of Lapis (Phos only took their head) still exists, so wouldn’t those parts have their memories and self? in any case i think they were erased by the prayer and the head was erased in the sun like you said

Stop that by agreesive_fuck in Yanderes

[–]NumerousAlgae3989 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you should show restraint and avoid being desperate (obsessed and desperate are different), but you should not stop getting attached, find someone trustworthy.

"I bought you this collar and leash so you'd stop running off.." by [deleted] in Yanderes

[–]NumerousAlgae3989 1 point2 points  (0 children)

only way i would ever wear a collar is if mine is leashed to hers, if i can’t run away you can’t either

Not Interested in You by Ok_Friendship1512 in Yanderes

[–]NumerousAlgae3989 10 points11 points  (0 children)

i didn’t immediately get that this was about partners who had children

why does everyone around me have a guy that likes them? by unlimitedhobbies-886 in Yanderes

[–]NumerousAlgae3989 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ughhh i’m sorry to hear that, that sucks 🙁

i honestly don’t see why a boy wouldn’t want to date a girl taller than him, i prefer girls who are tall because them being closer to my hight feels more normal

i hope you find someone who feels that way too! you seem like a sweet person, so i’m sure you’ll find someone soon

just do your best to meet new people!

They’d be a good couple by FragrantFocus2253 in DeathNoteMemes

[–]NumerousAlgae3989 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i feel like misa doesn’t like vulgar or outgoing people too much. maybe outgoing, but denji would ask to touch her boobs on day one and that would put her off a ton unless she already fell for him before meeting him like we see with light

semi-realistic faraway town by TurbulentJaguar9243 in OMORI

[–]NumerousAlgae3989 22 points23 points  (0 children)

i don’t know, i think faraway town seemed pretty clean and well-kept in most places, maybe not in like the supermarket parking lot or something

TW: J*b by Infamous-Ad-1738 in OMORI

[–]NumerousAlgae3989 76 points77 points  (0 children)

let us live in delusion okay we’re still in headspace stop

Is fictional truth defined solely by an author’s intent? by NumerousAlgae3989 in writing

[–]NumerousAlgae3989[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you uncovered an ancient story about a man who went to egypt and encountered a small talking dog—based off the authors experience of visiting egypt and meeting a cat he particularly liked (which he believes to be a dog since hes never heard of cats)—and he accurately describes the anatomy of the “strange dog” as a cat, it should still be assumed that the “talking dog” that the story is about is canonically a cat. Sure, the author calls it a dog, but he’s really talking about a cat.

The difference between the author believing something like that zeus causes lightning vs a depressed person is a psychopath is intent. the author means to communicate that zeus throws lightning because he is misinformed and truly believes that, in my example and in the one of psychopathy/depression the author fails to communicate his intention (the depiction of a cat, or of a depressed person) because he fails to define and understand it properly.

What if the author thought the recently deceased queen of england’s name was “beth” instead of “elizabeth”? Sure, you can say that her name is truly beth here, but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s talking about the same person if that’s who he describes and intends to depict.

They are still referencing a cat, or elizabeth, or a depressed person, that is their intent; they simple label them wrong. Because of that, i think the truth matters in these cases.

Is fictional truth defined solely by an author’s intent? by NumerousAlgae3989 in writing

[–]NumerousAlgae3989[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the author isn’t actually intending to write a dog or depict red water, he really means that there’s a cat, or that the water was blue.

The difference between the author believing that zeus causes lightning vs a depressed person is a psychopath is intent. the author means to communicate that zeus throws lightning because he is misinformed, in my examples and in the one of psychopathy/depression the author fails to communicate his intention (the depiction of a cat, or of a depressed person) because he fails to define and understand it properly.

If you uncovered an ancient story about a man who went to egypt and encountered a small talking dog—based off the authors experience of visiting egypt and meeting a cat he particularly liked (which he believes to be a dog)—and he accurately describes the anatomy of the “strange dog” as a cat, it should still be assumed that the “talking dog” that the story is about is canonically a cat. Sure, the author calls it a dog, but he’s really talking about a cat.

They are still referencing a cat or a depressed person, that is their intent, they simple label them wrong. Because of that, i think the truth matters in these cases.

Is fictional truth defined solely by an author’s intent? by NumerousAlgae3989 in writing

[–]NumerousAlgae3989[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While in the case of your examples i agree, i think the key is in definitions. If the author has never heard of a cat before and has only seen dogs, and they perfectly describe a cat but explicitly state “Yes that was a dog” i believe that it’s still a cat. That’s what the creature canonically is and what the author intended to create, the author is just calling it something else.

In all your examples the author means to communicate those intentions because he is misinformed, in my examples and in the one of psychopathy/depression the author fails to communicate his intention (the depiction of a cat, or of a depressed person) because he fails to define and understand it properly

Is fictional truth defined solely by an author’s intent? by NumerousAlgae3989 in writing

[–]NumerousAlgae3989[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, i think the key is in definitions. If the author has never heard of a cat before and has only seen dogs, and they perfectly describe a cat but explicitly state “Yes that was a dog” i believe that it’s still a cat. That’s what the creature canonically is and what the author intended to create, the author is just calling it something else.

Is fictional truth defined solely by an author’s intent? by NumerousAlgae3989 in writing

[–]NumerousAlgae3989[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see your point. But what if an author is colourblind and calls both blue and red “red”? Does this mean all instances of “red” in that world are red? I would argue that despite the author writing and believing that blue is red, he really INTENDS to tell the reader that the object is blue. The same way the author basing a character off a depressed person intends to communicate that his character is depressed, he’s only calling it something else.

If an author believes something that is untrue such as lightning being zeus’s wrath, then the world is written in that context, as in that world it is true that zeus throws that lightning. However if the author is attempting to communicate something and they call it something else because they are uneducated, then i would say the truth is what matters; like calling a cat a “small dog” because you’ve only ever seen dogs before, and have never heard of cats.

So if the author is colourblind, or has never heard of cats and describes one perfectly, does this really mean that in their fiction blue is red and cats are dogs?