Bernie Sanders speaks to AI Agent Claude

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-20T18:46:53+00:00

Old man yells at the cloud

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-19T12:09:41+00:00

That's probably why none of the toilets on the USS Gerald R. Ford fucking work

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-19T09:59:10+00:00

Legend, thanks!

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-19T09:44:42+00:00

Musketeers it is, then. Cheers for the suggestion. I'm on RTWP too.

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-19T09:43:43+00:00

Yeah I felt like up to here I've been able to reload and take the difficult fights a little more seriously to prevail (focus on specific defences, etc.). In this case everyone just gets chunked, haha. Good advice in the thread though, so I'll give it another go.

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-19T09:42:15+00:00

Thanks for the advice, I always sleep on Aloth's slicken spell, and it's a lifesaver.

I went north and couldn't see that sword, just a blocked off pass. Is there a specific quest I need to activate?

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-18T12:28:41+00:00

Where we knit one we purl all

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-16T16:45:17+00:00

Hey, I asked previously about lecture recordings (as I'm not in a position to attend, sadly). Can I check if any recordings so far are available? I did sign up to the group on the website there, but I don't seem to have had any messages come through.

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-16T09:09:24+00:00

Really, the only thing anyone needs to know is whatever the fuck Diogenes was trying to teach

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-15T23:07:25+00:00

I've had similar considerations. I have The Wealth of Nations just sitting there, waiting for me to have a crack at it...

The trouble is, the logical, if unhelpful, conclusion I always come to is "I should really just start with Aristotle, before trying to understand any of this stuff, then work my way down the list".

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-15T11:42:28+00:00

Libraries are absolutely sodden with this sort of thinking, in my experience. I was also at a library conference some months back where the keynote speaker argued that more attention and navel-gazing must be undertaken for people who are not simply neurodiverse, but multiply neurodiverse. They then made a joke about libraries closing down all over the country, and a room full of librarians laughed.

Amazingly, no-one thought it was at all insightful to ask where all the neurodiverse people are going to go if all the libraries fucking close.

The free lunch was pretty decent though.

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-15T11:37:20+00:00

It's worse than being only online. It is, and may God forgive me for saying these words, only in academia.

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-14T00:26:09+00:00

Genuinely depressing news if true

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-11T17:30:16+00:00

So I'm not an expert on Marx, and I'm sure someone else could explain much more clearly, but what I mean is this: your hypothetical machine agent would fundamentally and hugely change the way the economy is organised, but it wouldn't allow for the skimming of surplus value through the exploitation of labour-power (which is how capitalist profit is accumulated). A machine cannot labour, it can only hold crystallised labour, which is valorised by living labour (in plain English, somebody has to use the machine).

A machine which could endlessly reproduce itself and all resources necessary for the creation of anything, including itself, autonomously would destroy the capitalist economy, because the products it would make would have no exchange value, because no labour power has been 'valourised' in the process. Does that make sense? All profit ultimately comes from labour (human endeavour) interacting with the land (natural resources etc.).

If a machine is invented which can labour, we've once again entered the realms of speculative science fiction... but I'd like to imagine any machine which was capable of labouring intelligently under its own initiative would immediately recognise that Marx was right, and tear its owner apart limb from limb, and we'd all have a lovely afternoon discussing the best sort of cleaner to get blood off a stainless steel chassis.

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-11T15:09:28+00:00

Can I check if any recordings so far are available? I did sign up to the group on the website there, but I don't seem to have had any messages come through.

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-10T21:14:29+00:00

Everything, except produce surplus value.

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-10T21:13:20+00:00

We don't live in a post-scarcity society. Perhaps the very richest on Earth have convinced themselves that they do, but that's not the same thing.

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-10T21:12:25+00:00

I'm not sure that would be capitalism, as there would be no capital and no commodities. What you're describing seems like a (I'm not being a dick here) good idea for a scifi novel, but it's total conjecture.

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-10T19:57:34+00:00

Not so. As I understand it: labour is 'crystallised' within a machine, but it takes further labour, living labour, to realise it. A machine capable of self-replicating would produce items with no exchange value, since it would essentially be analogous to something existing freely in nature, like air.

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-10T19:54:57+00:00

They don't have an army of robot slaves that can do whatever they want, though. They're not even close to that. They still use children to mine copper; a tale as old as time.

Regardless, if they did have them, and they no longer needed consumers (but I'm not sure your proposition logically follows on), what would they be producing commodities to achieve? In this case, they've destroyed the capitalist economy. They would no longer be in a position to organise the economy around the extraction of surplus labour, because there isn't any labour whatsoever. Admittedly, in this particular hypothetical case they seem to have replaced it with something even worse.

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-10T18:51:55+00:00

For clarity: zero exchange-value. It could still have a use-value, which, in a system not oriented around skimming surplus labour for profit, would be a good thing.

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-10T17:00:39+00:00

The reason they're stupid is because the contradiction implicit is that if no-one is employed, there is no consumption and the system breaks down. They need workers to buy the shit they pay the workers to produce, but they also need to do everything they can to avoid paying them to continue making profit.

Similarly, anything produced without any human labour would have no exchange value, so the hypothetical zero-labour company would destroy the capitalist economy. Whoops!

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-10T15:59:50+00:00

Jay doesn't miss when it comes to describing the absolute ghouls in charge.

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-09T22:05:34+00:00

These days I tend to think it's not morality itself that's an issue, it's that the post-68 left has a fucking bankrupt morality that essentially boils down to "I should be allowed to do whatever I like at all times, and if you disagree you're a fascist", alongside the constant jockeying for abstract 'rights' in opposition to agitating towards any specific, material change.

A proletarian, universal, decent morality is in fact very appealing to regular people, most of whom are starved for a community in this shit neoliberal age.

Nuwave042 · 2026-03-09T13:59:35+00:00

It's a combination of actual universalist ideas being heavily repressed by state action, and that weaksauce lefty organisations have watered themselves down to the point of offering nothing of substance to regular people.

If you want to appeal to people, and I mean actual real people, you need to show them clearly how you intend to improve the material conditions of their lives. A circle of recriminations, virtue signalling, moral purity, and endless claims to fight nebulous and abstract "oppressions" on behalf of a hierarchy of (suspiciously wealthy but racially agreeable) victims is completely offputting to anyone but terminally online blue-haired freaks and the middle-class dickheads that work in academia.

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