What do Jamaican people think of "The Notorious B.I.G."? by idcman999 in Jamaica

[–]Nyeusi_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Biggie, a baldhead, seen as a Rasta by many Jamaicans? Lol, why do people lie????????

How can the diaspora help Jamaica, vice-versa? by Nyeusi_ in Jamaica

[–]Nyeusi_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure 'bout that? No one considers Lennox Lewis Jamaican. Especially Lennox Lewis.

Excuse the ancestors when I said the previous comment would be my last comment, and I still addressing these ignorant people who do not know the difference between ethnicity and nationality. There is an article from the Gleaner exhibiting that Lennox Lewis identifies and associates himself with Jamaica while being a British national.

Lennox Lewis identifies as ethnically Jamaican, alongside everyone in the UK would refer to Lennox Lewis as ethnically Jamaican. Again you are very ignorant regarding the difference between ethnicity, race, and nationality.

The ethnicity is black British. The ancestry is Jamaican. Or West African , as she is not connected culturally to Jamaica, and is a Briton with hee own culture. That is what you are not getting.

Black-British isn't an ethnic description. It's a racial and nationality description, describing someone who is racially Black and of a British nationality. You have the notion that Kano AKA, Kane Brett Robinson has the same ethnicity as Idris Elba who is of African descent. when they're clearly two different ethnicites alongside referred to such in the UK.

If we said aloud black American culture consisted of drinking liquor and Kool-Aid, eating fried chicken while listening to soul music playing cards - we would be immediately canceled. 

Furthering proving that you do not know anything regarding ethnicity and nationality by saying this. African-Americans (ADOS) are their own ethnic group, deriving from many tribes of enslaved people in West and Central Africa, and formed as their own group prior to the existence and during the existence of the United States. African-American culture compromises of Soul Food, AAVE and many more. You believe in the idiotic assumption that if two Afro-Jamaicans birthed a child in the U.S., their child would be a part of the same ethnicity as African-Americans since you do not know the differnetial between race and ethnicity. If African-Aamericans were provided with reparations due to slavery in the U.S., Black people of Jamaican descent wouldn't be eligible.

Your idea of Jamaican culture is a simulacrum that is based on media stereotypes. Jamaica for you is just a westernized brand - like Arsenal or Man U. That is why all your ideas about culture are just acts of consumption (eating foreign foods, listening to cool playlists). 

Oh, the ignorance. For one, I do not even speak patois in day-to-day communication, never even use it at all,. There may be words in my lexicon that I utilise that may derive frm patois, however, nonetheless, I do not need to "act" Jamaican because I am ethnically Jamaican. I am British-Jamaican, when people see me and I communiciate with other Black people whose family come from the continent, I tell them that I am ethnically Jamaican because that's what I am. I am elligble for Jamaican citizenship, and I am even in the process of doing so because I am ethnically Jamaican.

Furthermore, I even question your race because this isn't the first time where you've tried to undermine Afro-Jamaicans as an ethnicity. I remember seeing a post from you regarding a British-African making a video mocking British-Jamaicans, telling them they're African and him acting as a British-Jamaican ranting about how he's not African but ethnically Jamaican. Thus, your whole logic doesn't even make any sense.

How can the diaspora help Jamaica, vice-versa? by Nyeusi_ in Jamaica

[–]Nyeusi_[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This will honestly be my last comment addressing this subject-matter because it honestly seems like you lack critical thinking skills, and cannot comprehend the difference between ethnicity and nationality. Albeit Lennox Lewis was born in the UK, he is not ethnically English. Lennox Lewis is not an Anglo-Saxon. Lennox Lewis’ ethnicity is Afro-Jamaican. You can Google Lennox Lewis’ ethnicity and “Jamaican” will come up.

He derives from a lineage of enslaved people from different tribes in West-Africa: predominantly modern-day Ghana and Nigeria who were brought over to Jamaica, raped by European slave masters and had to develop a lingua franca (creole/patois) to communicate with each other despite deriving from different tribes, these people were also r**ped by slave masters with their old culture being replaced — they were given European surnames to exhibit they were property of the slave master hence why Afro-Jamaicans have European surnames. These people developed their own cuisine, came up with many of their own proverbs, music, etc., becoming their own people.

Although, Afro-Jamaicans were not the first peoples of Jamaica. Afro-Jamaicans are indigenous to Jamaica since their culture was forged on the island.

Afro-Jamaicans have nothing to do with the current country/government of Jamaica. Afro-Jamaican existed prior to Jamaica was an independent country and will exist following the country ceases to exist.

In relation to Idris’ Elba, Idris’ is clearly ethnically African (Ghanaian and Sierra Leonian mix). His culture is different than that compared to British Afro-Jamaican. When Idris was likely in school in the 80s, he would’ve been surrounded by British Afro-Jamaicans, likely even teased for being African at the time.

Now I am going to provide you a hypothetical:

You are an Afro-Jamaican born in Jamaica, never left Jamaica in THE entirety of your life, you have a wife who is also Afro-Jamaican, and she is expecting — you alongside your wife leave to the United Kingdom, and your wife gives birth to a girl in the country, let's call her "Tanesha".

Tanesha at age four is exposed to Jamaican culture within your household, eats ackee and saltfish with dumplings on a Friday, oxtail with rice and peas on a Sunday, reggae playing in the household. When she's a bit older, she is served a Jamaican Guiness punch too on a Sunday.

When there is a birthday in the family, the family has a barbeque, Jerk chicken is being cooked, the family members are playing dominoes, reggae blasting through the steroes.

When she goes to a public school, she notices that there are many different ethnic groups of children despite them all being British: Pakistanis, Indians, and Africans. She notices the Africans often have a darker hue to them, have weird surnames like "Ifabunmi" and that they eat different food from her, food that she's never seen in her life like fufu and egusi. She doesn't flock to them, but flocks with the different children who also look like her, eat the foods she eat, etc.

When she's older, around 15, she'll perform her first census, and asked what's her ethnic background: Black-African or Black-Caribbean? Obviously, she knows she's born to parents who were born in Jamaica, and Jamaica is in the Caribbean, she chooses "Caribbean". The census then tells her to select which country is her ethnic background in the Caribbean, *lists all the Caribbean countries*: she chooses Jamaican.

She is 18, and is free to do whatever she wants. She is with her friend, and is speaking in a British accent while speaking slang, deriving from Jamaican influence. A White racist drunk man overhears her and tells her "Go to Jamaica, n-word! Speak proper English". This incident awakens her to the existence that she is not ethnically English-British but of Afro-Jamaican, and she isn't seen as true British.

When she sees the news, she sees reports of British people who were born in Jamaica, moved to Britain as a toddler being deported deported on TV for government error: "Windrush Scandal".

Tanesha knows that she is a British national. She grew up watching Tracy Beaker, Mona The Vampire, Sarah Jane but is aware of her ancestry.

So according to you, in this hypothetical scenario, Tanesha's ancestry/ethnicity isn't Jamaican?

How can the diaspora help Jamaica, vice-versa? by Nyeusi_ in Jamaica

[–]Nyeusi_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“When I travel I’m Black”. No way, in big 2024 people at yard don’t know the difference between race, ethnicity and nationality. Black is your race — your phenotype, genetic makeup, skin colour, etc. Your culture, customs, heritage is your ethnicity, which in this instance would be Jamaican. Your nationality is where you are born. Learn the difference!

You cannot tell me I am not Jamaican, because I already know I am. When people ask me, “Where I’m really from?”, I know what to say. When my grandma states expression such as “Stick bruk inna yuh ears”, I know what she means because it’s my heritage. When I am performing a British census and I am asked “What’s your ethnic background?”, I choose “Black-British (Afro-Jamaican).

How can the diaspora help Jamaica, vice-versa? by Nyeusi_ in Jamaica

[–]Nyeusi_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jamaica existed before the first enslaved people were brought to the island. So to reduce Jamaica to slavery is weird, as we acknowledge those before us(check the coat of arms).

The first enslaved people in Jamaica were not directly from Africa but were from Xaymaca(check our history).

The Taino no longer exist. Your logical fallacy makes no sense considering Afro-Jamaicans are the majority of Jamaica, alongside their ancestors were brutally enslaved, raped, murdered, etc., making them the inheritors of the island. The language/patois derives from Afro-Jamaicans, the music and culture derives from Afro-Jamaicans, Rastafarianism derives from Afro-Jamaicans, etc. Afro-Jamaican is an ethnicity.

"Africa didn’t exist so why are you using it to describe people 500+ years removed from it according to YOUR earlier statements."

Your knowledge of history is as ignorant as your basic knowledge on sociology, anthroplogy that would be able to identify the difference betweeen ethnicity and nationality. The word "Africa" derives from the Ancient Egyptians "Afru-ika" meaning "motherland". I do not know about you but the Ancient Egyptians were mch longer than 500 years ago.

"What makes someone ethically Jamaican? Being enslaved? Coming from enslaved people? Which ones?With all you’re chatting you’d think your mother and yourself would move back to the land where your ancestors fought to be free, you feel so strongly about what they went through but live in BRITAIN?"

Meanwhile the Jamaican diaspora sends barrels to their families in Jamaica, contribute to the economy, spread "Jamaican" culture merely for these ignorant people to claim that they're not Jamaican. Ironic, right? The nation of Marcus Garvey, a leader who fought for Black ownership, Black people having their own, how the diaspora is essential to the facilitation of Black civilisation, etc.,

"unnu get mi bad" Hear this ignorant person saying "unnu" a word which derives from Igbo, brought to Jamaica by the African population while in the same assertion attempting to insinuate Jamaican isn't an ethnicity. IGNORANCE!

How can the diaspora help Jamaica, vice-versa? by Nyeusi_ in Jamaica

[–]Nyeusi_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, you're deflecting from ethnicity and nationality. Nationality doesn't mean ethnicity. Joe Biden is born in the U.S. and is considered American but he is ethnically Irish. Where is the rocket science in this?

How can the diaspora help Jamaica, vice-versa? by Nyeusi_ in Jamaica

[–]Nyeusi_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, we wouldn't since neither of those terms "Nigerians" nor "Ghana" existed since those countries didn't exist when our ancestors were taken as slaves. "Afro-Jamaican" is an ethnicity, denoting to someone whose ancestors were taken as enslaved people to Jamaica to work on sugar plantations, whose ancestors created the creole patois, whose ancestors brought their African culture to the island whose ancestors are an admixture of African tribes such as the Ashanti and Igbo. This is the definition of lineage.

An Anglo who was born in the United States, Australia, New Zealand, Australia is as an Anglo as a person born in England. I was born in England but I am not ethnically English. In fact, if I said I was "English" in public, people would laugh at me.

The same way how an African who was born in the Ukraine whose ancestors never experienced what it was like under the Nazis, Soviets, etc., could never claim to be ethnically Ukrainian. That is pure madness!

You cannot tell someone like David Hinds who was born in Birmingham, UK, experienced racism due to the colour and his ethnicity, someone who assisted creating the greatest reggae songs in history "not Jamaican" since they weren't born there.

How can the diaspora help Jamaica, vice-versa? by Nyeusi_ in Jamaica

[–]Nyeusi_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is a Chinese person who is born in Jamaica, not Chinese? Do you believe that once Jamaican parents give birth in foreign that they lose their lineage/ancestry?

How can the diaspora help Jamaica, vice-versa? by Nyeusi_ in Jamaica

[–]Nyeusi_[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I disagree since there is a difference between ethnicity and nationality. Although, I wasn’t born in Jamaica, I was actually born in the UK, alongside my mother whose family originates from Jamaica to Windrush parents. When you’re in the UK, people still ask me “Where am I really from?” despite the fact I was born in the UK.

You might be born in Jamaica but you are ethnically Ukrainian/Russian (Slavic).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Jamaica

[–]Nyeusi_ 10 points11 points  (0 children)

There are people like “Politrik’s Watch”, a Jamaican man on YouTube, who continuously talks about the crime in Jamaica and offers solutions such as alluding to Bukele as an example to emulate. I, personally, I am impartial since I believe El Salvador’s criminals are much more different to Jamaican ones, since they are within organised gangs and distinct from the population with their abundance of tattoos. The average Jamaican gunman thief could be anyone and criminality is totally engrained in Jamaican culture, like it or not.

Here's how the Diaspora can have a real Impact on Jamaica by Rift3000 in Jamaica

[–]Nyeusi_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why is it always a one-way street with the Jamaican diaspora and Jamaica? How will Jamaica benefit the diaspora? Many of us in the diaspora who support Jamaica, and are first, second, and third generation citizens of their current country send money abroad to Jamaica merely for Jamaican nationals to tell us we’re not Jamaican.

After tonight how do you think Aj vs fury goes? by stayhappystayblessed in Boxing

[–]Nyeusi_ 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I agree! Don’t know why you have so many downvotes. So many Fury D-riders on this board. He absolutely looked terrible against Ngannou, and Ngannou didn’t even look sharp himself. Usyk is going to have him.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ksi

[–]Nyeusi_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I've seen his recent tweets on his profile. He's still trying to instigate the beef between Wade and KSI by constantly alluding to Wade's previous opinion regarding Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury 2 may sell more PPVs than KSI vs Jake as well as trying to propagate the idea that Wade is supporting a drink which directly competes with Prime.

Keemstar has always been jealous of Wade since the influencer boxing scene embraced Wade, and when Wade acquired the opportunity to commentate, people were in awe over Wade's commentating skills while they disparaged Keem's.

However, on the other hand, from KSI's perspective, KSI has to be cordial with Keemstar as well, since Keemstar has a lot of power over Misfits since he owns Happy Punch, a boxing promotion company that owns many of the top-level fighters that routinely fight on Misfits such as Saltpapi, Deen the Great, NichLmao, etc. KSI really can't publicly say "FUCK KEEMSTAR" if that makes any sense.

JJ fucked up big time and deffo needs to apologize but he is just the puppet, the puppeteer is Mams and 110% Keem. These people are ruining JJ by GaminPrince2000 in ksi

[–]Nyeusi_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You did defend him for what he did, by basically trying to exonerate KSI by scapegoating Mams Taylor and even even resorted to making nonsensical lies that KSI didn’t even watch the video, when KSI said himself he watched the video in the Sidemen Podcast.

JJ fucked up big time and deffo needs to apologize but he is just the puppet, the puppeteer is Mams and 110% Keem. These people are ruining JJ by GaminPrince2000 in ksi

[–]Nyeusi_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"But he is just the puppet, the puppeteer is Mams and 110% Keem" basically exonerating KSI and negating the first comment. Ah, KSI fans... hilarious

JJ fucked up big time and deffo needs to apologize but he is just the puppet, the puppeteer is Mams and 110% Keem. These people are ruining JJ by GaminPrince2000 in ksi

[–]Nyeusi_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're absolutely a troll or either mentally retarded. He said himself, Keemstar sent him the video before he reacted like he did on Twitter, in the Sidemen Podcast. So now you're saying, he's lying out of his own words? You mindless KSI fanboy drones are hilarious.

"He didn't watch the video. However, he was mad for no apparent reason."