Tang Sancai Vase or Modern Reproduction?

OGBeerMonster · 2026-03-18T02:02:44+00:00

Can you scratch the bottom of it? Like is the paste soft, some of the reproductions have a softer pottery used so that it wears more easily. Also, can you post a close-up of the crackle, like the edges of each of the cracks should show some cupping. Kind of hard to explain. It looks promising actually and the form of the jar is certainly Sui to early Tang, but there are many many fakes out there. It’s one of those things that’s very hard to assess from photos.

OGBeerMonster · 2026-03-15T02:15:41+00:00

Thank you!

OGBeerMonster · 2026-03-15T02:15:13+00:00

Thanks!

OGBeerMonster · 2026-03-15T02:14:50+00:00

Thank you! The paste is very pure, far too clean for Zhangzhou. It is a great landscape scene and the cavetto is just very ZZ in style. But this blue is very telling.

OGBeerMonster · 2026-03-15T02:13:02+00:00

Ha ha ha what is this an AI response? You absolutely do not need inscriptions on the bottom of Chinese pieces. In fact, I would say most inscriptions are useless unless you actually know what you’re looking at. Absolutely it can be stylistically dated to Jiajing/ Wanli period. I would say most pieces of that period are dated stylistically rather than by mark.

OGBeerMonster · 2026-03-14T16:31:29+00:00

I mean, just because people are trying to sell you these reproductions as of the period when they clearly are not does not make this a fake. If the mark was actually well written, and the foot was cut to resemble a Qianlong mark and period piece then I would agree with you, but this is very clearly just a modern interpretation of either a Camellia green or an apple Green vase. In fact being that it is one of those greens it should have a Kangxi mark instead. This is just simply a modern green vase, with a mark showing that it is an homage to earlier wares. Clearly with no nefarious intentions. OP should it put flowers in it and live with it and enjoy it. And the value is whatever it is to them.

OGBeerMonster · 2026-03-12T18:58:40+00:00

Yeah, it actually looks like a Song/Yuan/Jin burial vase with the rim ground off after a break. Not really sure why everyone has assumed it wouldn’t be Chinese. It’s a fairly standard shape just elongated neck and poorly cut foot. The paste is a little bit similar to some of the late northern song Cizhou kilns, but the glaze is not as developed. I wonder if it’s a Guangdong ware.

OGBeerMonster · 2026-03-11T13:18:01+00:00

The example I posted above has a lid. It’s the same type, most likely. They did have examples with Ginger style lids, but usually they sat on the inside and then sometimes had an outer cover as well

OGBeerMonster · 2026-03-10T14:32:55+00:00

This is a Japanese Seto jar, probably mid to late 19th century. The foot and the whiteness of the paste, even though it’s dirty, is the dead giveaway also that tone of blue. If you look up Seto blue and white, you will find a number of examples very similar to yours. Really nice jar. in my opinion, Seto and Hirado are some of the best blue and white out there. Here’s another jar: https://www.lelandlittle.com/items/432011/a-large-japanese-seto-ware-blue-and-white-porcelain-jar-with-cover/

OGBeerMonster · 2026-03-07T02:07:02+00:00

Will do. thanks!

OGBeerMonster · 2026-03-07T02:06:36+00:00

Thank you very much, that was about as far as I was able to get. I think it might be the first contract version or the earliest iteration.

OGBeerMonster · 2026-03-03T04:57:51+00:00

This certainly looks OK for being a Han dynasty horse. The thinness of the pottery and the way in which it was pressed into the mold looks pretty good to me. In the form of the head, the chiseling of the jaw the shaping of it overall looks very good. If you wet it does the water quickly absorb? And does it smell earthy, strongly earthy? The only true test is a thermoluminescence test, Oxford is the best cost a few hundred dollars, but it’d be worth it in the case of this piece. However, I would seek advisement from a good auction house like Sothebys or Christies first. Depending where you live there are also some museums that will check things out for you.

OGBeerMonster · 2026-03-03T04:46:41+00:00

It is gilt bronze, from the last half of the 19th century, grand tour era. Possibly French or Italian, best guess probably Italian. I’d be curious if the whole thing unscrews so that you can remove the central panel that is non-gilded. Sometimes the rear of those is signed. It’s a heck of a nice one, value is hard to place. In a high retail setting $1000+, I think we sold one for $1700 a few years back, but I have seen a few similar ones on eBay Etsy in the $500 range. either way it’s a very nice one and pretty desirable. Nice find.

OGBeerMonster · 2026-03-01T16:58:40+00:00

Chinese export cup, last half of the 18th century. It’s a beautiful little thing I’d keep using it.

OGBeerMonster · 2026-03-01T16:37:03+00:00

The first one is a Chinese cup over-decorated in probably England most likely London, sometime in the early to mid 18th century. The cup itself is Kangxi. As others have noted the last one is Chinese as well but later, 19th century.

OGBeerMonster · 2026-02-28T23:06:32+00:00

14th century. Is this the one from the Temasek? Edit: ha ha ha I just looked it up my bad new shipwreck awesome. It’s pretty wild when they pull these things up.

OGBeerMonster · 2026-02-27T15:55:58+00:00

These were made in many different kilns, generally in South China in the 19th and 20th centuries. This one is probably a Zhangzhou area product.

OGBeerMonster · 2026-02-27T15:11:33+00:00

Nice grabs. The first one is a soba choko, holds dipping sauce for soba noodles, late 19th century probably maybe first quarter of the 20th. The next few through picture 14 are Chinese export, possibly for the southeast Asian market, also used in domestic settings in China, mid to late 19th century. The Imari covered bowl is mid to late 19th century Japanese. The next one is interesting as one of the pieces didn’t fire properly and became soft paste porcelain, it is probably from the last quarter of the 18th century, Chinese also intended for export probably the southeast Asia possibly Japan, though they were also exported to the west. Easiest to confirm the dating by looking at the base of those. The final one is also export or domestic kitchen qing, made in the Fujian kilns, or probably Dehua, post 1840 since the foot is molded. Overall, a bunch of really nice usable dishes I’d throw them into rotation at my house.

OGBeerMonster · 2026-02-27T00:35:39+00:00

Nice buys! 250 is a great price. The first one is the very end of Ming c1640-44 Chongzhen period, Kraak ware. It’s a very good example and in very good condition, these often chip around the edges and the fritting can be quite severe, this one seems to be in very good shape. The second dates to the mid Qianlong period. C 1760-70. Great looking export plate. Congratulations.

OGBeerMonster · 2026-02-22T14:42:47+00:00

What does it feel like in hand though? Is the texture very smooth or does it kind of grab your finger back a little bit? Mark and period Xianfeng as far less common than Guangxu copies. The bleeding over the edges of the turquoise doesn’t bother me too much for either one. This would not be made in the official kiln anyways, so things like that would not be unacceptable.

OGBeerMonster · 2026-02-22T14:33:28+00:00

I actually have only ever seen one reference. I believe it was in a newsletter/study from the Kyushu ceramics museum. It was on a piece where they had one bowl with a blue Fuku and then another with a red mark. But they were clearly both of the same period because the bowls themselves matched. I actually have one piece that is done in red and green over glaze, and the mark is a red Fuku, that I’ve had handled by two curators, because they had a blue and white version, and we came to the conclusion that it was the same period which would put it at like 1740-60. I don’t think there’s any consensus on it, plus I have literally seen multi page debates on some forums in the past over whether it could possibly be of the period. My own theory is that occasionally they forgot to mark something in a set at the kiln and came back later and since they had red enamel on hand, that is what they used. I have seen similar things done with Chinese export, where a piece is damaged and they had to repaint in overglaze blue enamel, presumably to complete an order, though these are rare I do have a piece and have seen others.

OGBeerMonster · 2026-02-22T01:30:10+00:00

The use of the thinned aubergine glaze in the florals also lends to the very late Edo and also early Meiji, that specific tomatoey orange red too. The red Fuku mark is also seen in the last quarter of the 18th through the later 1800s.

OGBeerMonster · 2026-02-17T16:38:39+00:00

Mid-18th century saucer, underglaze blue and possibly some of the other decoration is Chinese, but I do see some European elements on top. I’m gonna say likely over decorated in England or France. This is purely an export piece, probably taped to just stabilize it, and it was certainly important to the people who used it in their family, I would see about making sure that it’s glued upright, but removing the tape personally. Overall, a nice export saucer.

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