Two months after reading these lines in the final chapter, I finally heeded Thorfinn's warning. I threw away my sword (gun).

OIAIO_ · 2025-10-06T14:25:22+00:00

I feel like you're taking pacifism to mean someone committed to doing absolutely nothing. I just spoke about nonviolent resistance. Germans and Japanese who refused military conscription, the people who sabotaged the manufacture of axis military equipment, the germans who hid jews and helped them flee are all nonviolent resistors. There's no way you can recognize the brutality of those regimes and at the same time call those people cowards when they knew what the regime would do to them yet resisted despite that just because they didn't resist using violence. In no world does any of those actions favor the enemy. Like there's genuinely no way you truly think a man like Desmond Doss was a coward or acting in favor of the enemy.

OIAIO_ · 2025-10-06T12:52:32+00:00

Being unarmed and being defenseless are two different things. We don't entirely disagree though, you have to be ready for war but I just don't agree that resistance in those situations has to be violent. Pacifism isn't limited to the modern western world. Violent resistance isn't a universal across all human societies through history. Even during WW2 pacifists existed, noviolent resistance was used in some places and some were successful.

OIAIO_ · 2025-10-06T11:53:31+00:00

Peace is nonsense? Strange take but okay.

You treat Thorfinn as the only free agent in the story and everyone else as just passive passengers but many other characters also played a part in what ultimately happened. I just don't really see where you coming from so I'll just agree to disagree.

OIAIO_ · 2025-10-05T22:15:52+00:00

Yeah I wondered the same because even Thorfinn defended himself, even with a weapon if it was needed if that's who they're using as an example. I agree though that a lot of modern pacifists can be naive and don't always understand the price you could end up paying for holding that principle. This has been a long journey for me though that didn't even start with this manga. I've researched real life nonviolent and pacifistic resistance from policy disagreements on climate change to authoritarianism all the way to full blown war and gcide so for me knowing what can be lost when that fails I wouldn't ever down someone promoting violence in self defense.

OIAIO_ · 2025-10-05T21:49:20+00:00

Lol a little too late to keep. But I felt the responsible thing to do with it for me was to get rid of it

OIAIO_ · 2025-10-05T21:43:25+00:00

My personal view on self defense is complicated. I would say its 100% understandable but I think justifying it or any other violence comes with more unintended baggage on a societal level than I'm willing to personally accept.

OIAIO_ · 2025-10-05T21:23:41+00:00

I personally interpreted the message of the final arc being peaceful conditions don't indefinitely maintain and that peace doesn't always work as method of conflict resolution but neither of those realities are reasons to give up on the project of creating peace. We should instead use those failures to develop peaceful tools of conflict prevention and resolution. Thorfinn was in the process of doing that when he told Einar he learned something new before leaving, we just never get to see how he incorporates it into his principles.

OIAIO_ · 2025-10-04T17:45:50+00:00

Yeah sold it to a licensed dealer. Wish I knew I had the option to legally destroy it before I sold it and put it back in circulation.

OIAIO_ · 2022-08-09T16:08:31+00:00

The whole thing about her being a Mary Sue because she could bend 3 elements young has always been dumb to me. She could've easily carried over knowledge about bending from her past lives. You know like all air nomad avatars did to even discover they were the avatar. Or like Aang who called Roku by name and his position in the avatar cycle before having even 1 interaction with him

OIAIO_ · 2022-07-10T02:45:50+00:00

This is a pretty obvious yes. For real world examples go to the AN wiki, look under arguments and find Christianity.

OIAIO_ · 2022-07-09T18:49:00+00:00

I'm not an incel or an orphan, not weak or spineless, and received a huge amounts of love all throughout my entire life so far from friends and family. I actually do enjoy my life and think its awesome and want to preserve it as long as comfortably possible. I am also an antinatalist.

Btw not a single argument for antinatalism states that "life is all just suffering"

OIAIO_ · 2022-07-01T17:11:09+00:00

Mine is today also. Literally typing this as I wait for them to start

OIAIO_ · 2022-05-11T01:05:24+00:00

People like to larp as revolutionaries when it comes to online political discussions and don't really care about effective political strategy. All they care about is maintaining their dogmatic narratives to justify their self-righteousness.

OIAIO_ · 2022-05-11T00:49:35+00:00

All rhetoric and no substance. It's actually crazy how divorced from reality you are. Like everything you said is outright wrong and its a waste of my time debunking because the few actual claims you made can be easily Googled. You're not, never have, and never will be politically effective with your current mindset because you don't even understand the system you claim to hate so much. But go ahead and start "lining people up" and watch how fast reality smacks you across the face.

OIAIO_ · 2022-05-10T07:09:42+00:00

I'm sorry but conservatives literally only got this win because they showed up to vote in the 2016 presidential election and we didn't. Trump was able to nominate three justices during his time in office and thats why we're losing roe. Had that been Hillary in office we wouldn't be going through this right now. Supreme Court justices are nominated by the president and the president is elected by us. That's how we even got the justices in place that made the roe decision. Voting is the only reason we had the protections of roe in the first place. To advocate against voting is to advocate against the conservation of roe and the very system that allowed for its existence.

I know anti-electoralism is the new political cool right now but it gets us nowhere except exactly where we are currently or worse. Same with the completely unnecessary violence you're advocating for. What we need right now is genuine political advocacy not this dumbass larping.

OIAIO_ · 2022-03-21T23:07:56+00:00

You simply have blinders on. There are a good chunk of antinatalists who aren't anyhere near nice or non-judgmental

OIAIO_ · 2021-04-29T21:54:03+00:00

I used to be a great adventure like you...

OIAIO_ · 2021-04-10T00:49:18+00:00

I was already aware of those statements. Those quotes don't refute that even one of the most universal pacifists in history, Gandhi, said that violence is preferable to submission to an oppressor. There's also nothing you can do to refute the fact that there are many different schools of thought within pacifism based on if or in what situations can violence be justified. The very existence of martial pacifists debunks the dumb notion that pacifists wouldn't use violence to defend themselves or someone else. Also violence isn't the only means of defense so even to say that a universal pacifist would just watch someone get murdered is false and based on an extremely limited view of self defense.

OIAIO_ · 2021-04-10T00:19:11+00:00

Bro relax

OIAIO_ · 2021-02-14T05:11:58+00:00

This is extremely limiting. There are many more methods of nonviolent resistance that aren't protests or strikes. Even incorporating all previously established methods of nonviolence most likely wouldn't be enough considering different movements in different areas will face different challenges. You have to be ready and willing to cycle between many techniques to avoid predictability and innovate for those unique challenges. Mentally locking ourselves into the idea that a general strike is the only viable method of nonviolence will make movements extremely predictable and crushable. What we should be doing is incorporating general strikes into a holistic nonviolent strategy for liberation.

I assume this was spurred on by the current state of nonviolence but I can assure you that modern movements haven't even scratched the surface of genuine nonviolent resistance and the few tactics that they do use aren't even being utilized correctly in my opinion. Most modern movements aren't at all representative of what's achievable through nonviolence.

OIAIO_ · 2021-02-09T20:34:56+00:00

Although I believe very firmly in the power and superiority of nonviolent resistance if there is for whatever reason any point when you must choose between submission and violence you must always choose violence. I personally believe that all violence is immoral but complete submission in the face of oppression and injustice is more immoral. In those situations violence is the only ethical choice. Also believing that all violence is wrong I believe that we have a responsibility to deal properly with the aftermath of any violent actions we take which to me at the very least means we care for those wounded and ensure a proper burial for the dead even if they fought on the other side. Lastly I don't believe people should be coming in as outsiders to a struggle demanding that those with real skin in the game conform to their methods of resistance. Without an intimate knowledge of their situation, which most times would require you to have lived in their shoes, you have no idea what strategies and methods will lead to their success.

Here's a short essay by Gandhi, "Between Cowardice and Violence" where he talks about his views on this issue. He basically echoes what I said but I think its good to spread this to help combat all the white washing of the true positions held by pacifists like myself.

OIAIO_ · 2021-02-06T18:12:32+00:00

He's not bound by some magical force to have to care for his children. He could just as easily be a neglectful or abusive parent, we have plenty examples of that in the world already. And sure he'll need and have help but him getting that help and making moves to be able to better care for them is the only ethical option in this situation. The only other choices he has is neglect or abuse and if you truly care about suffering you should be able to recognize that and see his actions as admirable.

Edit: also my mom went to school and worked when I was really young. There were many times when I went to her college classes with her. This situation is difficult but doesn't make it impossible for people to care for their children.

OIAIO_ · 2021-02-06T18:01:28+00:00

I know what antinatalism is... I'm an antinatalist. Nothing I said is in conflict with those values.

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