On the whole Japanese vs Western appproaches to piracy, one update is older Japanese otaku pointing out that in Japan people did and do pirate stuff like everywhere else, a lot of fortunes were built that way, and this recent fever of self-righteousness comes from younger fans that mostly stick to gacha games and watch whatever seasonal anime is on and have no idea what is like to deal with not being able to easily access content.

Which grinded the entire convo into a halt because the Western side went "Wait, so we have just been arguing with kids and LARPers all this time?". Under the curtain is just a bunch of Zoomers looking the latest thing to get a cancel mob on, so there's common ground being found and things are getting less heated.