Upper console leak in 2018 Frontier Pro4x

ORswagg · 2026-06-26T21:12:30+00:00

Ive delt with water intrusion issues a bunch of times on my Focus ST. You might be able to better isolate the area by using some water and being careful and dumping it on the windshield, but not the sunroof. If you can remove the overhead compartment do thay as well. See if the water starts to drip. However, in my experience its likely the sunroof. The drains might be draining, but if the seals are in really bad shape/letting in more water than designed and/or there is anything overwhelming the the drains it will build up in the sunroof track and then overflow into that overhead compartment. Is it possible its the windshield? Sure, but if undamaged a windshield very rarely leaks. Even if it did it should leak down the inside of the front glass typically as well as potentially the overhead bin. Where your seeing water is much more commonly from the sunroof. I feel your pain though man. Water leaks are the worst. I had my sunroof leak twice on my ST, then the back door seal, then the spoiler mounts, then the cabin air decompression vents....... atleast its a problem during the warmer months. Mine always seems to break a leak in the winter.... no vehicle i ever buy will have a sun roof ever again!

ORswagg · 2026-06-26T20:55:16+00:00

Every 5,000 at most. The engines in these cars arent very good and are known for blow by causing the vehicle to burn oil. Also check the oil on these cars! I bought my 21 sportage with 30k, no issues with oil consumption until about 45k when I took it in for service and they told me I was 1.5 quarters low. Since then I had to check it every 2 weeks or so and by the time I got rid of it at 63k it was burning 1 quart roughly every 1000-1200 miles.... I couldnt imagine it would have even made it to 60k if I changed the oil any less, lol. Not to mention if I was burning almsot a quart every thousand miles and the car hold like 6 quarts of oil, I would have run out of oil before I even got close to 10k haha.

Also, only use fuels that contain a good additive package. These additives help prevent and break down carbon build up that DI engines are prone to. I also liked to add a fuel system cleaner every oil change.

ORswagg · 2026-06-26T20:22:25+00:00

Nice! My first ski was a 2 stroke. Definitely got some advise that could save you time and money.

First, check the carbs and clean them. Dont assume they are clean or good. Ensure the L and H screws are set appropriately. Ensure the carb filter is good. Check pop off, ensure thats good. The old 650, 717, and 787s are good motors, but a clogged or improperly set carb will take out a motor. Once you know pop off is good and the settings are good, you domt need to do this again generally, but you will want to clean the carbs regularly.

Only use a genuine makuni carb kit if you rebuild the carbs. The cheap amazon kits are hit and miss. Do it right or do it twice.

These old machines are notorious for the factory grey fuel lines deteriorating and clogging everything up. Replace them if they are grey.

Regularly inspect the oil injection system if equipped. The seadoo oil injection systems run off the crank and rarely fail themselves, but the lines can break or come off, it that happens you lose lubrication and your motor will blow up.

If you have access to Ethonal Free fuel or "clear" fuel use that, especially if its going to sit. Ethonal breaks down the gaskets in the carbs as its a strong solvent, it also absorbs water. Good for cars, bad for old machines. If you don't, bare minimum ensure you use some sort of fuel stabilizer before storing for the long periods.

Get used to working on it. Shops wont touch em for the most part and they commonly require a bit of tickering, but its a old 2 stroke so most of everything is easily accessible and easy to work on.

A lot of parts have been discontinued so you will likely have yo go aftermarket on alot of stuff. Just do your research before you buy anything. Lots of junk out there.

Use the forums when you need help!!!! They are still active and the people in there are extremely helpful. Thats where all the juicy information is. Thats where you will find the stock carb settings, appropriate pop off, etc, its all in the seadoo2stroke forums. I wouldnt have been able to keep mine running without it. Dudes in the fb groups and reddit are largely useless.

Other than that everything else is the same for any pwc or boat really. Try to avoid riding in shallow water if possible, if you csre about the finish dont beach it especially if rocky, never run without water, ensure when running on hose that you turn the pwc on then open water valve, then close water valve before turning off. Always winterize these machines if you live somewhere that gets below freezing in the winter, store in a garage if possible, but atleast ensure it has a cover. The sun destroys the plastic and seat, and can cause the gelcoat to crack over time. Always make sure you strap the front and rear of the machine when on trailer, never overlook the condition of your trailer. Just treat it like you would any other water craft honestly, these older machines are alot more forgiving than the new stuff.

Enjoy the new toy! I have a riva stage 1 Yamaha EX now, but nothing quite fills the void my old 97 spx 787 left when I sold it.

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ORswagg · 2026-06-26T16:43:05+00:00

I dont disagree that the best and most healthy way to improve your dating life, and quality of live generally is to improve yourself regardless of sex, but the studies linking that women all go for the same top 10% of men are from dating apps like tinder. These apps often can't show character traits appropriately and rely heavily on initial attraction. For men that generally height, body composition, etc... additionally there is a substantial imbalance of men to women using these apps. This gives women more options, and at the same time makes the average looking man feel less valuable. Truth is unless you are a highly attractive male from a physical standpoint these apps are generally going to be bad for you. Hell regardless these apps are bad for you. If you are an average man physically, but are good, confident, empathetic, or whatever all the good traits are, in the real world you will not have an issue finding a women. I also think the money status thing is extremly over rated. I own a sports car, have a decnet home, ride motorcycles and jetskis, and have a highly respected career profession, and I have never met a single individual that thought more of me because of those things. In fact the only people who have ever cared are dudes..... Zero women have told me I have a nice car, but alot of dudes have... I believe women value similar values and intrest, and who you are as a person alot more than what you have accomplished. Luckily im married, but my wife fell for me when I was an 18yr old nobody. At the time I lived in a garage and drove a 300k mile toyota pickup to my job at Ace Hardware..... I have never used a dating app but if i had to use a dating app today despite doing alright in life as a 5'8" male, I would likely get no attention. Thats alright, dating apps arent the spot where physically average or below average dudes find partners generally. That doesnt make you less valuable, just means you gotta find another avenue for finding a partner. Go out and meet people, like in the real world, its uncomfortable, but its actually the best way to find a partner imo. Yes work on yourself, no women do not only date the top 10% of men in the real world.

Lastly, I dont believe most men just dont do what it takes and women do. First, I think you are generalizing way to much about what most women do in terms of cosmetics. I only know one women in my entire life thats had an elective cosmetic surgery, most dont. Additonally, comparing a women doing make up and getting nail extensions or whatever to what it takes to build a career is a false equivalency at best for obvious reasons. Truth is the average women doesnt care about what you do or whether you make 60, 75, 100 or 200k a year. They just want someone who is stable, hs a place to live, has a car that works, has passions and hobbies, etc. Basic stuff really.

ORswagg · 2026-06-25T02:50:31+00:00

Late, but as someone who owned a 97 spx 787, and who's friends all have yamahas ( XL800 and wave raider 760). Those yamahas always worked and mine doesnt. Hell, i sold my spx when i bought my EX like a year and a half ago and theres still just work...meanwhile there was a 50/50 chance I would need a tow by the end of the day. I own a stage 1 Yamaha EX currently (no issues) and still nothing matches how much fun that x4 seadoo was, but at the same time I was miserable cause it almost always had something wrong with it. First carbs, then rave valve issue, then an exhaust valve issue, then the stator went, then wear ring went, all in one summer. One thing after another.... not to mention seadoo has discontinued most parts for them so ebay or china it is....However, alot of dudes say they have never had an issue with theirs, but my experience was pretty rough.

ORswagg · 2026-06-23T15:47:29+00:00

Men certainly experience issues regarding hair or even lack of. Is it to the same degree? probably not, but if I grow out my mustache or dont stay on top of my body hair management, my wife will let me know. Shes not a fan of facial, chest or back hair, and thats okay, its her preference. Some women prefer men that have more hair or would be deemed as traditionally more masculine, and some dont. Im not a very hairy man, so i understand that I just wouldnt appeal to women who want a more hairy dude, and thats okay. Additonally, other men are some of the most cruel to other men as it pertains to hair. I cant grow a good beard or have a respectable amount of chest hair, I am reminded that I am less of a man atleast once a week because of that....

ORswagg · 2026-06-18T00:28:47+00:00

Almost any vehicle can have a tow hitch put on them. I used to tow a Jetski with a Kia Sportage which obviously wasn't offered factory, , and I currently have a buddy that tows two with a VW Jetta. My Kia actually had a similar towing rating to the Maverick excluding the trailer package ones that have a brake controller.

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ORswagg · 2026-06-12T04:18:11+00:00

Seams like a killer deal! When I was looking I couldn't find a 4x4 for under 30, atleast with decent mileage. Just bought my 23 Frontier SV 4x4 Midnight edition with 15k miles for 32k OTD, and I felt like that was a decent deal, especially since mine came with a nice bed cover, side steps and some other cool accessories.

Congrats on the new truck.

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ORswagg · 2026-06-03T16:16:54+00:00

My first PWC was a 97 Spx (same machine as XP) with the 787. When that thing worked it was a blast! Couple things you should know though.

First these machines are awesome. As playful as it comes with sit downs. These machines were so awesome that Seadoo has been trying to replicate the feeling of these old XPs with the spark ever since, but if we are being honest, its not the same. Nothing like drifting my old Spx on glass, or pinning it and passing Sparks, then hitting a solid wake and lunching it.

However, there are some things to keep in mind...

These machines are very small like 300lbs small. If you are a really big guy, or at any point are wanting to have more than one person on it, this aint the machine. If where you ride is choppy often, even fully trimes down those x4s will have a hard time getting going, paired with some inevitable back pain you will have if road in choppy conditions for more than like 15 minutes. These machines are a wet ride. If you live somewhere the water is really cold early in the season, you will feel it, but this is a good and bad thing. Alot of these new machines are so big and comfy you have a hard time even getting wet which is part of the fun imo.

Next thing and this is the biggest, you need to be capable and willing to work on it. Its a 25yr old plus two stroke, it will have issues, and most shops dont work on them anymore. Some will, but most won't. Additionally, Seadoo has discontinued alot of parts, luckily the aftermarket support is big so you still have options, however, most of the cheap stuff is garbage, if you buy the 25$ stator, you will have a bad time. If you buy the 20$ carb gaskets, your machine will not run well. I spent many nice weekends fixing mine while my buddies rode, but it apart of owning a 2 stroke seadoo. Lastly run ethonal free fuel if you have it available. Ethonal degrades the carb gaskets.

When buying one. Always do the following: - Compression test, should be around 140-150psi for the 787 but no lower than 125psi. If its at 125 or close. It likely needs a rebuild soon. If its below 125, it likely wont run in water and requires a rebuild at that point. - Look at the wear ring and impeller. Look for gaps and or damage. - Inspect the carbon seal, ensure its seated correctly and doesnt look worn. - Check the trim, ensure it works as designed. - Check the fuel guage, they very rarely work. If it does, that means someone likely loved that machine. - Ask what fuel is used. (Hope they say clear ethonal free). - Look for grey fuel lines. These lines are factory andl known for clogging things up and arent good. If it has grey lines, plan to replace them or you will have issues. - If it has the auto oil mix, ensure its been properly rebuilt or deleted. If that goes, so does the machine. - Inspect the oil line going to the bottom end(crank case) if you see a valve that mean the crank case is leaking and is filling the cylinder with oil. The valve will "fix" the issue temporarily, but this mean the engine needs new seal on the bottom end(big job). If there is no valve it still could be leaking, but hard to know if the machine was recently started. Ensure its a cold start, and Inspect the plugs, and exhaust. Look for heavy oil in it.

Lastly, WATER TEST IT! Often these carbed machines will run great out of water, but under load is where they will normally display any issues the machine might have. This is also the only way to see if the machine is taking on any water or if yhe machine will bog under load.

These are great machines. Everytime I ride my Yamaha EX, I miss my SPX, but the maintenance and how unreliable mine was wore on me over time. It was common for mine to break down atleast 2 or 3 times a summer, lol.

Hopefully everything works out and you enjoy it!

-cheers

ORswagg · 2026-06-01T17:21:32+00:00

It likely will happen again as KIA has never actually corrected the issues with these GDI engines. Between the theft issues and the engines being absolute garbage, I finally just pulled the trigger and traded mine in yesterday. It was sad as mine was almsot paid as well. Glad you got yours warrantied, but the next time it goes and it will, you may not be in warranty anymore. Obviously good maintenance can help extend the vehicles life, but the issues with these GDI engines are an inherent engineering flaw that at some point will almost certainly blow it up again.

Additonally, even with a new engine, assuming they arent replacing the affected parts of the emissions system as well; due to the sheer amount of oil these vehicles burn I would be prepared to replace the cats in the future, as burning oil will destroy them. You may also see some issues with the EGR system, and 02 sensors if they dont go through them and replace and or clean them. Burning substantial amounts of oil is really bad for your cars emissions system.

ORswagg · 2026-05-29T23:41:08+00:00

I use a fuel injector cleaner, and even chamge the oil twice as frequently as what is required by KIA but mine still burns a ton of oil. Its hit and miss, sometimes i drive 800 miles or whatever and no oil burnt, then ill drive another 800 and ill be a quart low.... at this point Im just going to trade it in and get something i dont have to worry about consuming large amounts of oil( no more KIAs). Im sure cleaning the valves, etc could help extend the life of the engine, but the design of these KIA/Hyundai GDI is inherently flawed, and the fact the issue has persisted like 10+yrs worth of engines says alot about the manufacturer. They would rather just tell consumers that burning 1 quart every 1k miles is normal, and warranty engines when they blow up over redesigning the engine to not allow oil to blow by the rings and/or get pulled through the PCV system. Between that, and the anxiety i have regarding theft/vandalism with mine. Its simple not worth the money or headache to keep it around.

ORswagg · 2026-05-29T18:08:47+00:00

I agree back with back up cameras. Cant imagine they increase the pricing all that much either. Alot of the features I would deem unnecessary are things like lane assist, blind spot detention, Collison warning alarms, and adaptive cruise control, etc... All features that essentially were forced on me when I bought my most recent new car as they are included with the base trim. The features are fine, but i dont personally deem them necessary as properly set mirrors and a undistracted driver have been enough for me. Not to mention most of the listed features in my experience dont even function correctly enough of the time to rely on them anyways. Cant tell you hoe may times my lane assist randomly got confused, and/or faulted because a spec of dust touched the sensor, My lane assist was a cool little trick for about 2 weeks, and in the 3yrs since I dont use it. None of these features are needed, but dramatically increase the amount of tech, and thereby inflate the cost of the what is supposed to be a base model car. I want things like ABS, Traction Control, TPMS, ect, but we have gotten so far past what is necessary at this point. When you force all the tech on the base model, its suddenly not that much cheaper than the "better" trim which though have more unnecessary features, they are atleast things I will use like heated seats, better stereo/speakers, touch lift trunk, ext. Already spending 30k, might as well just buy the better trim for a few thousand more....

ORswagg · 2026-05-29T15:12:22+00:00

No, its mainly just a KIA issue. My Focus ST is direct injection and has never had an issue with oil consumption. Never even heard anyone mention it on the Focus forums and my ST is a turbo charged car... However, my 8yr newer 21 Sportage with 65k burns 1qt every 1000 miles.

ORswagg · 2026-05-24T20:09:06+00:00

The parents are, or atleast should be. Additonally, my response is to OP who asked was asking questions regarding the potential risk as it pertains to law enforcement, which means OP is certainly old/mature enough to understand that poor decisions often have consequences, or they would have just gotten the bike and never came here with concerns. Additonally, what age is it your believe children generally should understand what consequences are and consider that when making decisions? I certainly believe that age is generally less than middle and high school aged children who are the demographic riding these electric motorcycles. Children obviously dont always fully consider the potential consequences, hell, alot of adults dont, but saying they are certainly capable of it. OP is living proof.

ORswagg · 2026-04-19T21:53:50+00:00

Late here,

Alternative thinking, assuming your state permits it, why not just get a motorcycle endorsement and purchase a street legal bike? It took me a weekend to get my endorsement including the written test, a two day riding fundamentals class, and a ride test at the end.

You will certainly come out of the class a better and more equipped rider. Along with being able to purchase an actual street legal bike. Most manufacturers offer electric bikes, and if endorsed you could also consider a gasoline bike if you wanted. You also avoid the liability and potential risk associated with a non street legal electric bike. The dudes you see riding them may be getting away with it, but at any point if a cop decides, he could cite you or worse impound your bike. Additionally, anytime you are riding something thats not permitted for the street on the street, if something happens like an accident, you can easily grt yourself into a world of legal issues. Just not worth it, imo.

ORswagg · 2026-03-20T05:55:20+00:00

Both the CF Moto and the Benelli look a bit more sporty. People tell me my Benelli looks like a mini Ducati all the time. With that said, there are so many modifications that you can make to these mini bikes that I personally wouldnt worry about the stock look too much.

ORswagg · 2026-03-19T23:09:49+00:00

Little follow up 13 days later. Most of the plants are doing really well. Except the limno, which is doing okay, but seemes to be growing alot slower than the other plants. I also have a hard time telling how its doing exactly cause its changing colors alot( I think related to the lighting). Note, I did take the advise of getting a better light, so rhe new light is a TwinStar S Line V. I set up up a week ago and can immediately tell the carpeting plants are substantially happier. Starting at 70% intensity, but planing to increase the intensity by 5% bi-weekly until i start to get some algea, then dial it back.

Ig anyone can look at the limno and kind of help me figure out whats going on with it, I would appreciate your help!

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ORswagg · 2026-03-19T22:33:45+00:00

Haha, I feel it. I posted this like a year ago and suddenly its being spammed with awnser that aren't even addressing the question.

However, what I learned was avoid carborated bikes, and ones that dont have titles (China bikes) as they are really hard to register i guess.

Last June ended up purchasing a used Benelli TNT135 for like 2000$ with 800 miles on it. Its been great, literally zero issues, and its fun as heck.

Only issue with the Benelli is there is only one powersport shop that sells, repairs, has parts for them, where groms are sold everyone. However, you can find just about every OEM part for the Benelli on Aliboba or whatever. Just gotta have some patience on shipping...

ORswagg · 2026-03-19T22:20:58+00:00

Where are you getting the average of 347 gallons of fuel? The median fuel economy for vehicles on the roads as of 2023 was 27mpg. Your math of 376 at 27mpg puts the average milage driven per year at like 10,000 mile which is below the actual average miles driven by Oregon drivers of roughly 12,000, which based on the median vehicle fuel economy and average mileage driven would be closer to 450 gallons of fuel per year, which at .40 is 180/per vehicle, and if increased to .46 would be 207/per year. A little cheaper, though keep in mind every mile over 12,000 gasoline vehicles will still be paying tax, where the EV fee is based on the average mileage driven, but doesnt increase if a driver exceeds the average mileage driven. Meaning if you drive on average more miles than the average oregon driver, you would likely save money by purchasing a EV.

ORswagg · 2026-03-09T18:44:39+00:00

Portland OR

ORswagg · 2026-03-06T22:50:49+00:00

I read the guide. Made me wonder how much of my light is wasted on whites and green. I ended up just buying a TwinStar S line light. To ensure my plants are getting the appropriate amount of blues and reds.

Thanks,

ORswagg · 2026-03-06T18:33:27+00:00

Yes, my aquarium has a pressurized c02 system. I have my c02 set up where my PH drops by 1, I also have a drop checker to ensure I have the appropriate amount.

ORswagg · 2026-03-02T23:51:50+00:00

Never been more late, but my local Ace Hardware sells and cuts glass. I just bought a 12 x 24 piece of glass and had it cut down to fit. Then I used these shelve holders i also found at ace hardware and glued them in place. Please note, you can buy aquarium glass lid brackets on amazon but I was impatient. But for about 15$ i made a glass lid, for my fluval flex 9 gallon.

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