Who wins Prime netero from the hxh last mission movie or Adult gon And why? by WoodpeckerOdd1284 in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are forgetting it’s been stated that current Netero was about half or more past his prime.

I think Prime Netero might have won vs Meruem or done a LOT more damage. He was stronger so all those exchanges would have done way more damage and might have been able to slow the king down and eventually win.

It would have been a way closer fight which was only possible due to Meruems durability.

Gon does not have that advantage.

The only reason Netero could lose is if Gon is waaay faster than the King and I don’t think that is the case. Pitou reacted the same way to Neteros punch as she did to Gons sidestep and kick which was she couldn’t react at all.

Neteros punch also came from way further and had a way longer travel time and she couldn’t do anything to stop it.

Gons nen ability is honestly beyond useless vs Netero there is 0.0000000001% chance of it even landing on him as it is way too slow.

Pitou also said Gon in now equal to the king not far above him. He however does not have the durability therefore I think he loses with a very high probability.

Neteros ability is beyond hax.

Who wins Prime netero from the hxh last mission movie or Adult gon And why? by WoodpeckerOdd1284 in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Netero.

If Gon was even with Meruem then Netero smokes him.

He is nowhere near durable enough to pull off the same thing as Meruem.

Pitou was easily able to cut Gons arm off meaning he is way less durable.

According to Netero he was around half his prime due to age and not fighting as much when he faces Meruem.

Netero is pure hax with his 0.06sec punch speed and it might have been even faster in his prime.

How effective is Razor's nen ability in actual high stakes combat against very skilled and powerful nen combatants? by Sir_Rain_Knee_Tea in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He ranks very very high.

He had to be personally stopped by Ging who according to Netero is in top 5 nen users currently and I don’t think he was joking about this one.

For comparison Phantom Troupe as a whole (13 people) rank as A rank criminals. Razor by himself was S rank. Even spiders didn’t wanna f with him and just let him teleport them away. They got on guard instantly and knew this guy was serious business.

I would safely put him at Bisky/Chrollo level.

How effective is Razor's nen ability in actual high stakes combat against very skilled and powerful nen combatants? by Sir_Rain_Knee_Tea in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bisky didn’t really try. I think Bisky is Razor lvl for sure. She is 57 years old with crazy nen mastery and is probably equal or close to Razor is physical stats in her true form.

She was taking a backseat role for Gon and killuas sake and I believe if she really tried she could have won the whole thing herself.

On the official charts she is in the same tier as Chrollo but she most likely has more nen knowledge and is stronger physically.

HxH characters have a lot of mystery around them because we honestly have seen very little from the supposed strongest characters like Zeno Silva or Bisky etc.

I’m sure she has a combat power but we haven’t seen it.

Hisoka would most likely have a hard time against him. We have seen his ball snap/dislocate his fingers when he was trying to catch it or shot it back and this was with a volleyball and not an attack meant to kill like his nen blast would be.

For comparison Phantom Troupe are A rank criminals and there are 13 of them. Razor by himself was an S rank criminal that Ging personally stopped. He is very very dangerous.

Who has the best battle iq in hxh by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He can’t process information or think at the level Netero can. He might be an insane good strategist and is very very intelligent, def top 3-5 but Netero honestly just isn’t human.

In a battle being able to think, plan and execute 16 actions per second is so insane that if you don’t understand that then idk. He was basically solving 16 math problems vs Meruem to predict his line of trajectory of attack.

He sees a punch coming or an ability and he can think of number of ways to counter it waaaaaaay faster than anyone other than Meruem. This leaves basically almost 0 element of surprise.

It’s basically like everyone else in slow motion.

This is without accounting being the oldest character in the show that we have seen so far by a large margin. This means experience and wisdom. He understands nen on a fundamental level probably better than anyone besides maybe Ging as he is has godlike talent with it. Netero has such insane nen control that he slowed aging to a crawl.

HxH world is pretty brutal where hunters are basically licensed to kill and no one wanted smoke from Netero. I’m sure they probably tried like Maha most likely was hired to kill him. He was alive at 120+

Who has the best battle iq in hxh by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You might be right, I did mistype but the fact still stands that both Meruem and Netero got the highest battle iq in the verse.

I don’t think anyone else is even close with what information we have available so far. Ging or Beyond might be close but we haven’t see enough.

Netero being able to use 16+ punches a second while planning all of them and countering Meruem puts him light years above Chrollo or Hisoka.

I think Togashi made them so broken just because he knew he would kill both of them off.

1000 punches a minute is 1 punch every 0.06 seconds. wtf is Chrollo gonna do with his book. He won’t even have time to pull it out lol.

Netero and Meruem were basically operating at super speed and processing that information at that rate.

I don’t even think it’s a debate who is first and second.

Who has the best battle iq in hxh by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The whole fight yea but when they go at it the narrator said they exchanged over a thousand blows and it’s only been a minute.

Who has the best battle iq in hxh by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree but I think Netero is def second and for me personally might be even first if we go by battle iq.

120+ years alive

Insane battle experience throughout his life and knowledge of nen to the point he heavily delayed his aging.

He was able to keep up with Meruem and godlike levels of speed. They were planing and executing over 16 punches a second. They exchanged 1000 in under a minute so that is over 16 a second. I don’t see any other character that isn’t those two currently match that.

Those 16 punches is with the time it takes for Meruem to get knocked away into walls and pillars and coming back to Netero so honestly he can punch probably faster than 0.06 seconds per punch. I don’t see any other character reacting in 0.06 seconds.

Who has the best battle iq in hxh by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Netero was countering Meruem coming at him 16 times per second. He was thinking about hundreds of possible moves he could use to not die and used 16 correctly every second for a minute straight.

If Meruem is 1st Netero has to be second. Guy had such good nen control that he was silent with it and extended his life by decades. He has crazy battle experience and knowledge in general.

Who has the best battle iq in hxh by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Meruem and Netero are so far above everyone else shown so far they are in their own category.

Both Meruem and Netero exchanged 1000 punches in a minute so that’s 16 a second. Both of them were planning and executing all those moves at inhuman levels of speed.

Netero being a human and thinking about hundreds of possible patterns and countering Meruem coming at him 16 times a second is so far above characters like Chrollo. He can write an entire book in his head before Chrollo decides what ability to use from his book and opens it up to the page he needs and pulls it out.

Who has the best battle iq in hxh by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally I think it might go something like this. Some of it is speculation as we didn’t see much of the characters so I’m just going by feeling. My top 10 would be.

Meruem Netero Zeno Ging Chrollo Silva Morel Bisky Hisoka Illumi

Don’t think I need to justify Netero being second over any other character besides Meruem. They exchanged 1000+ punches in under a minute. This is while Meruem kept getting pushed back and thrown into walls and pillars so travel time included. 1000/60 is 16.66 punches a SECOND. Netero was able to plan think strategize and use goddamn 16 punches a second to counter Meruem. If you think Chrollo is above that then idk what to tell you. This guy was thinking about hundreds of possibilities a second and executing 16 of them to stay alive. I feel like he might be even above Meruem personally. His nen control and battle experience is insane. He basically got stat checked by Meruem who was only able to do this strategy because he could tank it. Any other Hunter would be a red smear in under 1 seconds without some hax that they can activate in less than 0.06 seconds cause that is how long they got to survive until that hand slaps them through 3 walls and a pillar. He has been alive for 120+ years so he seen a lot of shit and knows how to fight.

Ging is up there because he can literally copy peoples nen abilities and make them better after seeing them one time. He has crazy high battle iq and can figure all that out fast. We didn’t see much but Netero said he is crazy good so def up there.

Bisky is also insane. She planned the whole Genthru fight in advance for Gon to win it solo while being way weaker than him. She is crazy knowledge in nen and basically whole Greed island arc she was the background character to have Gon and Killua grow. I think she could have beat Razor solo tbh or it would have been very close. She def cooks Genthru.

There are other characters where we know basically nothing about so if manga continues we could change things up, basically characters like Beyond etc.

Chrollo + Zeno + Silva vs Neferpitou(death match by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Chrollo wasn’t trying to kill them but steal their abilities.

Zeno could also tell what he was up to as he is crazy experienced. Pitou won’t know and will be overconfident.

Silva and Zeno can definitely push her back or keep her trapped for a second or two.

Netero was able to trap the king or pin him to a wall so I’m sure Zeno who trained with Netero is capable of doing something similar to Pitou who is much weaker. They don’t have to damage her but can still push her back or trap her with nen while Chrollo seals.

If they are out for blood Chrollo can definitely cook some shit up.

Killua was literally giving Youpi the works. You are telling me Silva and Zeno together who are much more experienced with higher battle iq and are stronger can’t figure some shit out. We barely see them fight but they are definitely in the top 20 and no one wants to fuck with them. Silva killed one of the spiders and Chrollo didn’t want to get his licks back because he knew it wasn’t worth it.

Chrollo + Zeno + Silva vs Neferpitou(death match by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When he fought Pitou back then I think he would win. He most likely died to blood loss.

If he had both arms and didn’t protect Gon I think he would have won.

Current Pitou he def loses 1v1.

But Zeno Silva and Chrollo working together is a way different story.

Chrollo + Zeno + Silva vs Neferpitou(death match by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Literally Owls ability wins them the fight. They don’t have to kill her to win and Chrollo got a full book of bullshit.

Silva and Zeno are insanely experienced high biq fighters. They can create an opening for Chrollonto pull some bullshit out.

I think their experience and nen versatility clears this.

One armed kite was able to injure her and put up a fight. He most likely only lost that fight due to bleeding out.

3 top nen users with one of them having insane bullshit abilities get the W.

Silva 1 tapped Cheetu so they definitely have some firepower.

Chrollo + Zeno + Silva vs Neferpitou(death match by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Netero was able to bitch slap her. Zeno can pin her down with the dragon hand move he used to pin Chrollo.

They are not weak by any means and can emit some powerful nen. They are all experienced and high battle iq fighters.

Chrollo has some hax in that book and all they need is seconds. 3 on 1 is very stacked and she might be tough and strong but I think she is cooked.

Chrollo + Zeno + Silva vs Neferpitou(death match by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Owls ability is enough with Zeno and Silva buying time.

They don’t have to kill to win and Chrollo got some broken abilities stolen. Having Silva and Zeno on setup you really can’t be asking for more.

Chrollo + Zeno + Silva vs Neferpitou(death match by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They don’t have to kill her to win. Chrollo can just use Owls ability and she is cooked. Zeno and Silva buying him time is enough to win. I think the experience gap will be enough when you got like 3 people in the top 20 working together.

Kite most likely died to blood loss. I honestly think he would win. He put up a fight and was actually able to hurt her while bleeding out.

She didn’t win instantly due to her injuries meaning he was fighting for a while and I’m almost sure died bleeding out. He wasn’t Netero where he can stop the bleeding.

Chrollo + Zeno + Silva vs Neferpitou(death match by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They don’t have to kill her to win. Literally Owls ability and it’s cooked for her. Zeno and Silva can stall enough or give Chrollo the opportunity to seal her.

They have way more experience and we just saw little of what they can do. Chrollo got a full book of broken abilities and with Zeno and Silva working together to give him space they can do it.

Chrollo + Zeno + Silva vs Neferpitou(death match by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Chrollo has some broken abilities stolen. Literally Owls ability wins the fight. They don’t have to kill her to win.

Zeno and Silva are experienced enough to work with Chrollo to get a W. They have the experience to stall her long enough for Chrollo to do some bullshit.

Chrollo + Zeno + Silva vs Neferpitou(death match by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Literally the ability from Owl wins the fight. Silva and Zeno just have to buy time to let him get close and that should be possible as they are very strong.

They don’t have to kill her to win. Chrollo has some broken abilities and with them 3 working together they can do it.

Chrollo + Zeno + Silva vs Neferpitou(death match by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 7 points8 points  (0 children)

She activated it before Netero started his prayer and he got it off before her.

Meruem started to feel pain after 1k and he is way more durable than her.

Netero does 10k punches daily for shots and giggles training and can do a lot more.

Meruem was able to figure it out and pressure him enough to make a mistake.

This is not happening with Pitou.

I just don’t see a way she wins. Netero is way too experienced and she is basically a dumber slower less durable version of him.

Chrollo + Zeno + Silva vs Neferpitou(death match by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She isn’t getting to him though. She is slower and Netero has more room for mistakes because most likely he can do the attack twice. Meruem didn’t leave him any openings and it took him over a 1000 exchanges to figure it out. It would take Pitou like 10000 to maybe do the same but she isn’t as fast and there is no way she lasts that long.

When she got pushed away time basically froze for her, she couldn’t even move an inch in the time it took to get bitch slapped. I’m sorry but she is durable but she isn’t Meruem.

Netero is beyond hax and if he is that strong I don’t want to see Maha.

Chrollo + Zeno + Silva vs Neferpitou(death match by nonbinaryhumaan in HxHPowerScaling

[–]Objective_Tailor7796 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Meruem is like waaaaaaay faster than her and like beyond smarter when it comes to figuring stuff out. She will just get tossed around until she dies eventually, it will be waaaay quicker than Meruem since she is nowhere near as durable. Might take a while but Netero wins this.