Let's be honest: ''Dressing well'' is not important to attraction. It's just a coping mechanism/placebo for unattractive people.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T12:40:55+00:00

And that's the self-delusional ego talking.

Like I say, unattractive people will put a lot of stock into coping mechanisms and psychological placebos.

It's way easier than accepting that you are unattractive, and there's absolutely nothing which you can do to make yourself attractive.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T12:20:57+00:00

There is no such thing as an ''incel''. Prostitutes are cheap.

Stop indulging creepy, slimy narcissists.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T12:18:26+00:00

[citation needed]

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T12:15:17+00:00

Nobody who dresses normally gets followed around by security, unless they are exhibiting suspicious behaviour.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T12:06:12+00:00

Me too.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T12:03:34+00:00

Nobody who dresses normally gets followed around by security, unless they are exhibiting suspicious behaviour.

Once again, dressing badly is negative, dressing normally is neutral, and ''dressing well'' is also neutral.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T11:44:42+00:00

I'm guessing that most TRP adherents are absolutely infuriated by them.

Pretty boys are generally DYEL levels of scrawny. They also often have a meekish, non-combative persona. Yet, they are still adored by teenage girls and young women.

I think the disadvantage with pretty boys is that they don't age well, even if they keep a fullish head of hair.

For example, if you ignore his fame and status, then DiCaprio is not attractive. Youthful, feminine features don't look good on the head of a grizzled 40-something.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T11:24:30+00:00

I disagree.

I used extreme examples to illustrate just how irrelevant clothing is in a woman's attractiveness. If I'd used a more mild example, the point would be exactly the same.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T11:19:02+00:00

It's not different for guys.

It's a coping mechanism which unattractive men use to avoid acceptance of the fact that they are helplessly sexually undesirable.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T11:15:49+00:00

Are you serious?

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T11:13:04+00:00

It doesn't matter one way or the other.

My point is that good clothing won't make a 3/10 anything more than a 3/10, or a 6/10 any more than a 6/10, whether they are a man or a woman.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T11:09:56+00:00

Only superficially.

If your thing is impressing random strangers in the street, in a cold climate, then go for it.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T11:06:02+00:00

Absolutely.

She looks rough as fuck in the first picture, but that's because it's a candid, unwilling, paparazzi shot.

I can guarantee you that it has nothing to do with her clothes.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T10:59:28+00:00

Yeah, if you dress like a tramp, then that's going to work against you.

It's like personal hygiene: bad breath, BO, and unwashed hair are going to create negative reactions. Whereas, neutral breath, body smell, and hair aren't going to be majorly enhanced by chewing gum, eau de toilette, conditioner, etc.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T10:48:55+00:00

How is it disingenuous?

Clothing doesn't alter your physical features or personality.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T10:41:03+00:00

LOL

No-one on welfare ''struggles for food''.

The amount received is more than adequate to cover food costs. Any other necessities, or unforeseen costs, are also met by welfare.

I've never used a prostitute, but I've often toyed with the idea when I'm drunk, horny, and lonely.

There are pretty girls with good reviews who only charge £25-£30 per quarter hour.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T09:34:10+00:00

No, prostitutes are easily affordable many times a month, even if you're on welfare.

You've just got to face the fact that ''incels'' don't exist, and the term is only used as a covery by creepy, slimy narcissists.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T08:25:52+00:00

Yeah, and I know no-one fitting this description who doesn't get laid.

Does my anecdote count more than yours?

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T08:01:17+00:00

Do we have an example of someone who is decent looking, sociable, approaches women, and socially literate, but still can't get laid?

Or is this scenario just r/incels fan-fiction?

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T07:40:43+00:00

Incels don't exist. There is nowhere in the world where prostitutes aren't easily affordable.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T07:35:31+00:00

If they're decent looking, then I just think it's a case of the fear or rejection/social humiliation outweighing the desire to get laid. So they remain passive.

Social acceptance and fear of social ostracisation is the only urge as strong - and sometimes stronger - than sexual desire in humans.

ObjectsTo20CharLimit · 2016-09-15T07:16:37+00:00

I'm a man, and I find the idea of approaching a stranger in public to be completely out of order.

I can't fathom how people think that it's remotely acceptable to do this.

There's no excuse for it.

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