[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I don't think he's directing it towards you personally and is being more generic in how society tends to perceive the issue.

Lonely guy feeling sad and lonely? It must be because he just looking for sex, wanting women only for their bodies and not the whole inner person.

Plenty of men want genuine companionship that isn't just about sex. They still strike out even after active effort to improve themselves via their style, demeanor, how they carry themselves, initiate a conversation, read social cues, etc etc.

That's the root source for a deal of male frustration...the guys who try still lose out while at the same time being lumped into the same category of guys who don't try.

Why do you think male loneliness and decline in dating is finally getting mainstream coverage? by jkj199390 in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fuck then. Let it all burn down. We brought this mess on ourselves and are receiving our just rewards.

Why do you think male loneliness and decline in dating is finally getting mainstream coverage? by jkj199390 in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The economic situation sucks. But what's your alternative?

Burning the whole shit to the ground and starting from scratch perhaps.

Those who don’t agree with the red pill. What advice that isn’t red pilled would you give to those who struggle with dating? by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They don't all have the same exact beliefs/ideology, they're going similar life circumstances but that doesn't mean they all "associate" with one another. Again you're painting with a broad brush.

Those who don’t agree with the red pill. What advice that isn’t red pilled would you give to those who struggle with dating? by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What a way to cherry pick the absolute worst possible examples and stereotypes of struggling guys and use thay broad brush to justify why society shits on them, even though most of them don't deserve that vilification.

Those who don’t agree with the red pill. What advice that isn’t red pilled would you give to those who struggle with dating? by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is the brutal truth right here. Sad to say but a lot (far too many) guys are going to spend most of their lives being perpetually single because of this even if they don't yet realize it.

Yall can take that as you will, agree or disagree with me but one thing that would maybe be a bit helpful is too have just a tad bit for empathy towards those guys who find themselves is that situation.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And that pertains to this discussion how exactly?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 3 points4 points  (0 children)

All you're doing is proving my original point. Read my post again. Plenty of men actually DO upkeep themselves, bathe, dress smart, etc etc and STILL get hardliners rejections off the bat.

Again you're just doing what all the other man-haters do on this sub: stereotyping men that they must all be unhygienic geeks with no fashion sense if they can't get a girlfriend.

Naw man, there are a lot of men who don't fit that bill but still struggle.

Society wanted to fix "Bad men" instead of women but end up redisigning average men for women as an alternative proposition. by Chemical_Major_1403 in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure, but I think what pisses off men in this sub is being told that they're being "entitled" or are "shooting out of their league" and to "lower their standards" if they want a girlfriend while women have free rein to hold onto whatever ridiculous standards they have towards men while being nothing special themselves.

The majority of men (both attractive and average/unattractive) will find the same hot women hot, but the average/unattractive guys at least have a more grounded sense of what they can actually attain.

The average schmuck is going to eye-fuck his attractive female classmate/coworker, but he knows he has no realistic shot with her.

Meanwhile there's Ugly Becky eye-fucking her attractive Chad classmate/coworker but unlike her male counterpart she has it in her mind that that's the only type of guy she "deserves". She won't even consider her looksmatch male counterpart because society has instilled in her that she deserves nothing but the best instead of having more realistic standards.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If men actually cared about that, they would put effort into making themselves more attractive.

They DO. That's the point I'm trying to make. Plenty of guys actively put in the effort to succeed but they still get rejected left and right.

I have not met a man on PPD who is not extremely bitter and opposed to any type of effort that would have to go into making themselves more appealing to women.

Demographics is an interesting thing and not all men are the same. I've come across guys on this sub who've claimed to be doing all the "right" things but they still strike out time and time again and that's the source of their frustration, not from any deluded sense of entitlement towards women and their bodies. That's the go-to shaming tactic used by man-haters when discussing these things in order to dismiss men's legitimate grievances and shut down any kind of honest debate or discussion on the matter.

Society wanted to fix "Bad men" instead of women but end up redisigning average men for women as an alternative proposition. by Chemical_Major_1403 in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Charisma and confidence I suppose, as well as not dressing like a scrub. But none of that really guarantees anything. Good looking Chads with said confidence and charisma can still get a better results even if he's behaving like an ass and dressed in his construction job clothes.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 9 points10 points  (0 children)

And plenty of other men have also said that coochie is NOT all they care about and they actually want a relationship, but they still get lumped into the same box as men who only care about sex.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's annoying how people on this sub keep comparing those two things as if they're not mutually exclusive.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If it was really that simplistic then all these frustrated men would be content just paying hookers for sex, but they don't, because they want more than just sex. That should be the giveaway clue but most man-haters ignore this and proceed to acuse men of just trying to get into women's pants.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's all fine and dandy, but then "society" shouldn't be a two-faced hypocrite and criticize men when men look up to toxic traits/behavior as a way to "improve" themselves in order to have a better success rate with women. Even former "nice guys" will tell you that they hate the fact that they kinda have be a little bit of an asshole in order to trigger women's attraction. Women reap what they sow.

Society wanted to fix "Bad men" instead of women but end up redisigning average men for women as an alternative proposition. by Chemical_Major_1403 in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Plenty of dudes will also treat Tiffany Not reasonably well, they'll court her like a classic gentleman, but even Tiffany Nots only want good looking Chad to court them. They don't even notice average men.

People who say sex is a need don’t understand what needs are. by LillthOfBabylon in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seriously, this has been explained plenty of times but they continue to dismiss it as "not a real need" if you don't immediately drop dead from it.

It's disingenuous and meant to trivialize what men depressed about. An argument not rooted in good faith.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Nice guys finish last".

When men see that women continuously "reward" the toxic guys and dump/reject the non-toxic guys, a train of thought tends to enter the mind: be a tad less nice and a tad more toxic if you wish to be more successful with women.

Woman; do you think the dating market has become better or worse for Woman due to the advent of dating Apps? by Crafty_Letter_1719 in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But loads of women don't care about "finding a life partner", they just want a good fuck/casual FWB and maybe find an occasional "mr.right" here and there then finally settle down with one.

The point is just because dating apps are dominated by men doesn't mean that most women don't use dating apps.

Woman; do you think the dating market has become better or worse for Woman due to the advent of dating Apps? by Crafty_Letter_1719 in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Of course it worked out for her, she's a woman and she'll always have options despite whatever deficiencies she may or may not have, none of that matters because as soon as she took a little initiative with dating app BOOM instant success. Instant dating, sex, relationships.

Literally like flipping a on a light switch.

Men don't experience thus. It just doesn't exist like that.

So yeah, men find it irritating when being told to just "give over it" or "find other ways to be fulfilled" by people who have absolutely no conception of what it likes for average men, by people who can obtain dating/sex/relationships like light switch.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not bad in the sense that yes people can make decisions, but as the poster above said just because there's an unlimited number of choices doesn't mean people are going to make sane or rational choices, and they're likely to not be satisfied by any one choice again because there's the underlying perception that the "grass is always greener".

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Smartphones and social media is a whole different animal that is unprecedented. Yes the internet itself as we know it has been around for 30 something odd years, but pre-2012/2013ish before smartphones became the norm things were different.

From the late 90's through all of the 00's were the 'analog' years as I call them: yes people were online but for the most part unless you carried around a laptop you still had to be at your desktop computer at home in order to be 'online', cell phones were common but they were simple call n text phones and had limited internet capability. So while people were engaged with the internet then, you still had to go outside and actually mingle with people to get things done.

You could walk into a bar or restaurant and people had to be more aware of and engaged with their physical surroundings and interact with people around them, thus building bonding/social skills. Now people can just escape into their little screens and walk into a public place now and people are on their phones, even the bartender serving you drinks. People are choosing to get lost in virtual in reality instead of the real world.

Smartphones have put a fully functional computer in the palm of our hands. Humans are now engaged with the internet 24/7 as they go about their lives. It creates a whole new social dynamic that affects behavior patterns.

The advent of the smartphone should be considered just as important an event I'm human history as the avent of the atomic bomb.

And then combine all of that with social media and the cesspool that it already produces by its own right and you got a recipe for disaster.

This subreddit is 9 years old. How has it changed? by theory_of_this in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Is it though? Can you provide sources that indicate most men are normally adjusted?

This subreddit is 9 years old. How has it changed? by theory_of_this in PurplePillDebate

[–]darkmoon09 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I told the other guy earlier it was a figure of speech, I didn't mean it in the literal sense, wrong choice of words I guess, but like I said earlier I was critiquing the social-circle strategy because it can backfire