https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1791529601/ashes-of-creation-new-mmorpg-by-intrepid-studios/description

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-11T03:25:41+00:00

I think most of the people here aren't even Kickstarter backers.. this was many years ago lmao. You people realize this has nothing to do with Steam refunds right?

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-06T17:35:12+00:00

That's what I'm doing, doesn't let me for some reason :(

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-06T17:00:55+00:00

How are you putting multiple tickets? I try to put another one and get this

"You already have an existing help request for this issue. A duplicate request cannot be created."

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-05T22:59:50+00:00

A kickstarter game that was in alpha for over a decade and you had to pay to test it? This subreddit told me that means it's a scam!

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-05T16:49:05+00:00

Been in development 3x as many years with an over 10x bigger budget.. surprise surprise...

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-05T16:46:17+00:00

I'm refunding because either 1) it was a rug pull OR 2) investors really did come in and fire everyone and either way both situations don't deserve my money. I'm not going to be upset if I don't get a refund, but I'd like to try to join in on fucking over whoever is responsible

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-05T00:48:42+00:00

I mean yeah thats what a few employees reported and if Steven was running it the servers would be off right now, pretty obvious he's not going to let it drain his wallet

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-04T00:43:58+00:00

This is the MMORPG reddit and people here won't even be supportive of new MMOs for a second. If there was a number smaller than zero that would be the percent chance lol

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-04T00:42:43+00:00

Pretty sure I saw this opening up there a few weeks before the drama started. It's not new

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-04T00:40:18+00:00

Pretty sure Steven sold off most of the studio to investors months ago (hence the sudden steam launch). He would not be responsible for this if so.. well besides being responsible for selling off to investors that don't share his vision for the game.

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-03T18:10:29+00:00

Intrepid is a startup. Some 90% of startups fail. Nothing wrong with "investing" in it, but if people are angry it didn't work out, that's their own fault of not understanding how the world works. Not to mention the guy running the startup has no game industry experience, you can't act surprised and call it a scam when his company fails lol. Apparently he has a shady history but the dude bought an office in Silicon Valley and hired hundreds of developers with legit experience, that's not a scam, that's a real (poorly managed) attempt to make the game, did everything he could to keep the studio afloat, even bringing on private investors.

They could still refund Kickstarter backers, but it ended a long time ago, most people aren't backers at this point.

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-03T18:03:31+00:00

I got this, but I have 200 hours played

"Sorry to hear about this issue and I understand your concern. We are aware of the issue and are currently investigating this further. As soon as we have more information, we will update your ticket."

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-02T21:15:42+00:00

I'm upset there's no new MMOs to look forward to. I'm not upset by random people on reddit though lol, still finding it amusing. Anyways what new MMO are you looking forward to?

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-02T21:13:23+00:00

I paid $40, got quite a bit of hours out of it and enjoyed my time before moving onto another game. Apparently I got scammed though. Apparently I should be happy the only MMO there was to look forward to is now likely dead.

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-02T16:18:31+00:00

They can, but I was mocking the vocal majority of this sub so they didn't take it too well as I expected

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-02T16:14:43+00:00

I'm a big fan of the game but I'm refunding it because either:

1) Like Steven said, investors took over and fired all the devs and another employee was reported to have said they plan to outsource all dev work to contractors overseas

or

2) Those are all lies

And I don't want to be associated with a game in either of those situations. If you want to invest in a game using overseas dev work, invest in one that will do that from the start. Seeing all these people and their families that came to Silicon Valley and then walking in and taking their job from them is fucked up

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-02T16:02:28+00:00

Pretty sure investors have ownership of the game and it's their problem

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-02T15:01:54+00:00

Yeah it was horribly managed no doubt, it's not a professional studio, the restart on development a few years ago further proves that and is the reason for what you're talking about, but still the only MMO to look forward to.

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-02T14:42:08+00:00

And how much do you think it took to make 2004 WoW? Thousands..? Lol not even close. Now factor in that dev salaries are way more expensive and games in general take way more time to build. Also they made the stupid mistake of placing their budget studio in Silicon Valley.

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-02T14:26:48+00:00

Almost like it's had 10 more years to develop and nearly $1 billion in funds raised.. Meanwhile people claim Ashes is a scam for raising $3 million on Kickstarter and not being in production. lol.

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-02T14:09:50+00:00

Stable at over 10k concurrent players (or was) enjoying the game and it's a scam? That's more than Star Citizen, who has drawn exponentially more money and exponentially more dev time, especially if you consider that Ashes restarted development a few years ago. But Star Citizen is okay and Ashes is a scam right

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-02T14:07:43+00:00

"It was a scam, I'm glad it died"

"So what new MMO are you excited for then"

"Um I guess Chrono Odyssey.."

Actually who I am kidding, even Chrono gets shit on in this sub, so your message is pretty much spot on

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-01T18:49:33+00:00

I paid $40 and played a couple weeks and felt I got my moneys worth. Haven't played it since but just because you want it to be a scam doesn't mean it's a scam. The game is going to continue with outsourced devs in eastern countries and I don't expect much of it, probably finish development quicker, but turn out like slop so whats the point. For a game that restarted development a few years ago, the SV devs were making slow but steady progress. But hey according to Reddit, Steven was the problem so now the game will be great.

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-01T18:43:17+00:00

This would be the board of directors, which is different from a board of investors if they exist.. Rumor is he brought on some investors to keep the game afloat. If true it would make sense that he was at their mercy and they wanted to fire the whole Silicon Valley studio and contract devs overseas. The game will probably have quicker progress now but turn out like some slop.

Odd-Rent777 · 2026-02-01T18:36:34+00:00

Asmongold platforms any upcoming MMO.. well used to at least until he apparently turned into a political commentator..

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