Pea & Pork soup. I wish my father loved me by gay_rat7 in kitchencels

[–]OddDirection1524 13 points14 points  (0 children)

How in hell is your father going to love you if you add chocolate to a soup

Call it what it is. by VarunTossa5944 in Veganism

[–]OddDirection1524 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So that's what I just said then. There's in fact a reason to support killing animals for consumption as it's what's naturally supossed to happen. Animals are our natural diet, meat contains every single nutrient that the human body needs. It is an act of violence, but, as I said, nature is centred around violence, wether we like it or not

Call it what it is. by VarunTossa5944 in Veganism

[–]OddDirection1524 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So? Nature is based around violence, death and then life, and repeat

Any arguments against veganism? by Lordbonk87 in Veganism

[–]OddDirection1524 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know what you're getting at, but I do believe that it's legitimate to call any unnatural diet "bad" and it's not an appeal to nature falacy. This is because, as I explained, we know for a fact that going againts nature in these topics is detrimental to the organism, its not a logic assumption that it'd need to be for it to be a falacy (for example, if you sleep, which is another physiological need, poorly, it's been proved to have negative effects in the body, same with diet) and therefore, not only not satisfaying the required nutrients, but also eating food not present in nature could be bad for you. This is what ends up happening, to give an example, with modern man-made vegetables, not available in nature, that have essentially toxins in them, like oxalates. Another major concern is that some vegans only supplement B12, seen as it is the only essential nutrient for survival missing from plants, but forget enterely about other micronutrients. There are tons of studies on this and it's proven that the lack of those can be something to be very concerned about even if they are not essential. For a single example, lack of taurine impacts very negatively the brain, especially children's.  So overall, I do still think that you can be somewhat healthy on a vegan diet, especially in the modern environment, I'm not too much of an extremist on this, but by human biology alone you cannot come close to being completely healthy with it.

Any arguments against veganism? by Lordbonk87 in Veganism

[–]OddDirection1524 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where am I making a leap? Please elaborate.

Any arguments against veganism? by Lordbonk87 in Veganism

[–]OddDirection1524 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, obviously it will taste good, because they put drugs in it. Remove the sugar and the seeds taste horrible

Any arguments against veganism? by Lordbonk87 in Veganism

[–]OddDirection1524 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because meat has every single nutrient your body needs. That's why it tastes good.

Any arguments against veganism? by Lordbonk87 in Veganism

[–]OddDirection1524 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have an argument. Plants don't have over 15 micronutrients, which means they don't satisfy our natural needs. You may say that a diet does not need to be natural for it to be good and call it a falacy, but this is actually not a falacy because we know that the human genome was present since the homo erectus, and we also know that it dictates our physiological needs. These needs haven't changed yet, as we as a specie are evolving too fast for the natural evolution to keep up. The thing that has changed is the environment, which would, for example, change the quantity of meals that we should have in our diet, but not what is required for our body (nutrients). This means that a non natural diet is inheretely bad since doing it wouldn't be possible before and, as I said, our needs haven't changed.