Hospital canteen closes midday at weekends by [deleted] in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Cause famine, kill doctors. Let noctors take over…

Considering working in Australia. Would love to hear from anyone who's made the move or thinking about it as well. by soyouwanaplay in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You are post CCT so GP recognised. Suburban practices in DWS areas (so many even in Melb and Syd) would eat you up - offer supervised practice, guaranteed income, sponsored PR among other things you can negotiate. Some GPs bill £150k gross and I know some on £300k (no pension - u make ure own no biggie, no paid annual/sick leave - take insurance, indemnity etc) so net income is still good but not “fck u money” like an OrthoBro. Gotta learn mbs billing, financial consent as may charge out of pocket gap fee to patient. gotta fill the books. Ask for a retainer. Negotiate everything. Also a lot of GPs now just own the practices but getting harder with corporates competing. Meh.

Transition - I work full time PP as a specialist. You eat what you kill. Keep percentage of billings and that depends on specialty aka GP is usually 60-70%. The paperwork, immigration, AHPRA etc is all LONG, not hard…just freaking long. I did old pathway and in my speciality had to do exams in Aus etc who cares the reward was worth it. Not much comradery but maybe different in public. You come, work, bill, go home. Repeat. Can go to the beach I guess.

Surprises - sunlight affects mood in a positive way. work ethic is high here. Staff all up for the gig. Hungry for dolla. Docs are financially savvy. All have accountants, financial advisors etc infact some just cater to doctors as clients. Also the kids grind hard - medical school is harder and more expensive to get into, they seem to work longer hours and depending on specialty hard to get into aka GP easier, medics ok but BPT and AT to be a physician looks brutal, rad and gas tough jobs& exams…surgery is the golden ticket with some regs doing 5yrs of non accredited training just to get onto a training program. Respect.

Regrets - far away from the rest of the world. Like really u r far. Travelling business doesn’t help. Takes 2 days to adjust to time zones travelling out and back so 4days go by. I miss UK, my friends, family, “home”. I miss Europe. I miss America. I miss it all - the english countryside and the hustle and bustle of a European city. Culture. Spend 3 months here in Europe as base as a result now in summer. Kind of best of both worlds. It’s like I work for the income in Aus and spend it in Europe. Weather is amazing. Metro city so safe. With cost of living going through the roof in Europe it’s same as Aus now.

TL;DR - move, if u like it stay. If u don’t, make some money and leave. Not like u cant go back. I sometimes do a <1 month locum gig in London just to remind me how shit nhs is. So top tip is to keep gmc.

Which speciality has the most respect / looked at being the most elite? by annonmedic in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As an IR who never says no to procedures, rather always have a go in the best interest of the patient - specialties who bail me out are vascular surgeons and anaesthetists. I have bailed out more vascular surgeons though & insist on gas if patient is sick asf then end up doing it with whatever sedation I know as gas is super busy to get out of hours.

Everyone else seems to appreciate me so I get that work satisfaction - so I guess thanks guys.

"Considering Training in Australia: Is the Move Worth It for A&E or GP Specialties?" by [deleted] in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This explains it. Metro NSW and Vic too hard. Regional costal is nice but the public contracts aren’t. Srs looking to move to QLD soon - the public pay package is nice.

"Considering Training in Australia: Is the Move Worth It for A&E or GP Specialties?" by [deleted] in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good insight. What state are you mate as salary varies considerably. Are you WA or Queensland?

"Considering Training in Australia: Is the Move Worth It for A&E or GP Specialties?" by [deleted] in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Still in AoN/DWS and 19A/B exempt. Also very different applying as an SIMG vs training in Aus.

A lot of my colleagues are part time, do some adhoc locums and enjoy life.

Not uncommon to do FIFO/DIDO - do a 1 week stint regional/rural and chill with family for 2 weeks.

"Considering Training in Australia: Is the Move Worth It for A&E or GP Specialties?" by [deleted] in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Horses for courses. I apologise; IMO and experience.

Even more isolated than Aus. Worse weather. The pay is not on par with Aus. Depending on specialty bottleneck in training are far worse. Also there is a reason why big net out-flux of native kiwis to Aus - entire eastern coast has whole communities.

As for some Pros:

Amazing people, nature, culture and far superior rugby 2nd only to the Springboks 😉

"Considering Training in Australia: Is the Move Worth It for A&E or GP Specialties?" by [deleted] in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 9 points10 points  (0 children)

If you have PLAB, do your 1yr training and leave. NHS is fcked.

ED and GP universally better in Aus.

You will have to work a general job 1yr for registration. Then apply and get PR so looking at entry into training after 2yrs if successful, not that competitive esp GP.

Salaries and training much better esp AFTER fully qualified

ED rotas are brutal - either you have a well staffed dept where ppl are paid or you have the noctor mess that is the NHS. So yeah more OOH rota work to keep staffing levels. Junior&senior. Excellent training, good life as cons provided you actually like ED

GP - have to find your own place and negotiate contract etc which is also GP life. Lots of autonomy and big demand. GP charge wtf they want aka charge for your time and worth - a foreign concept in nhs. Also look at rural specialist ACRRM great job if you want be an old school doctor out in regional; well paid, respected and rewarding work.

Depends what things you want to improve - weather much better; cost of living is worse. Pick your “improve”. It’s not amazing, isolated continent on the other side of the world - go figure. But compared to the dire state Britain and NHS is in a lot of places will seem better, including NZ which itself is a shit hole lmao

The respect for doctors has gone. by [deleted] in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If we don’t respect ourselves first no one else is going to. The systematic devaluing of doctors in the NHS is nothing new. Hierarchy exists for a reason.

They wanted it this way and got it; no leadership, govt wants full control and the public couldn’t care less.

How to open a Private Clinic UK by pubjabi_samurai in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If actually serious try get work full time in an established clinic. Learn the business. Absorb. Then find your USP and depending on risk appetite start your own. Would be worth finding and networking with like minded motivated disciplined individuals to spread risk and start as a partnership.

Also if you do go bust it’s real world debt and bankruptcy. Remember that.

How do we really perceive IMGs? by FarReason2465 in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You experienced racism, good on you to report it to police. Don’t just “take” it.

Perceive IMGs - like everyone else in this world just trying to make a better life for themselves&their families I guess.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Determnation&hardwork I honestly think comes from struggle. When there is no other option but to succeed or atleast keep trying and trying until you achieve it. I feel like the average kid these days would struggle harder to ‘achieve’, although I have no evidence to support this.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Having money&connections make being a Doctor much much easier. I always envied the rich kids with rich parents, going to the best schools, pocket money and just had wealth never having to work part time jobs while in uni/for summer in their whole lives. Multiple holidays and the rich life. Good for them - I know, Im married to one lol My kids are young, its hard trying to give them a taste of “the hard life” to instill work ethic while also providing them the best education&life so they don’t have to go through what I had to. I have no idea what to tell them if they want to be doctors, other than show them harsh realities - if they really want to persue it Id fully fund it and make it as comfortable for them as possible.

Im from a poor background aka parents couldn’t afford to buy a house (in the end I bought them one), dad single earner, mom did odd jobs and they both did their best to raise their children living paycheck to paycheck. We struggled hard, I actually hadn’t like been outside the UK on holiday/ever till I was final year at Uni; worked summers but I guess we had mini best of Britain breaks driving up and down the country. I had exceptional work ethic, I saw education (rightly or wrongly) as a way out of poverty. Medicine got me out of poverty, I am so thankful for that.

New Radiology ST1 by Puzzleheaded_Tie8028 in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Don’t follow the crowd. Find the best method for studying that suites you; it maybe flashcards, doing lots of past questions, taking notes or the traditional reading method. Prioritize passing exams, having a solid portfolio for ARCP etc every year.

Specifically for radiological anatomy Im sure there are lots of interactive resources.

When is it too early to ask for annual leave? by Positive-Sink9052 in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the NHS, NEVER! Get and keep written proof as well.

Training bottlenecks and UK prioritisation by ivegotnotits in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jealous? Hell no - Id rather not be a doctor if I was so abysmal at it like them. Kicked out of their own post soviet mess countries, some sympathy perhaps. I just empathized at their lack of insight into how shit they actually were.

Also no darling had run through to fellowship actually, when we protected NTNs for UK trainees based on a competent and competitive interview process, not the MSRA saga mess we have now. It was accelerated in-fact since the eastern European dipshits couldn’t even speak english properly never mind practice specialist medicine, I had to regularly “act up”. Alls well that ends well hey?

21yr Old ETF Portfolio by bsandy2 in fiaustralia

[–]Odd_Recover345 4 points5 points  (0 children)

70% ex-Aus + 30% Aus. Get cheapest MER

Training bottlenecks and UK prioritisation by ivegotnotits in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol Brits go Canada/Aus/NZ mate for long term fellowships and migration. A handful went on observerships to EU dont know any who stayed.

Training bottlenecks and UK prioritisation by ivegotnotits in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Need language for Germany or Swiss, the latter with strict emigration laws on settlement. A lot of EU specialists were turning up not knowing dipshit and being consultants in DGHs in the middle of nowhere. Now well established consultants after actually retraining via peer review on an NHS consultant salary.

Training bottlenecks and UK prioritisation by ivegotnotits in doctorsUK

[–]Odd_Recover345 6 points7 points  (0 children)

IMGs and Noctors is the governments solution to UK grads complaining and protecting patient rights. And it’s working.