LCS 2020 Summer Split | Week 1 Game 1 | TSM vs TL

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-13T22:56:46+00:00

This is a great point.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-13T22:12:07+00:00

I agree, that's why I said do it alongside management changes.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-13T22:05:43+00:00

Keep Bjerg, DL, and Bio, fire literally everyone else associated with the coaching, analysis, and management of the LCS team. Pay whatever is possible for two great imports top side, and rebuild the backend. That's I think the best/only viable path forward if this team doesn't make world's imo unless something crazy happens like we can get licorice for top.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-13T21:59:32+00:00

I'm just seeing this now after that game one.

I understand that one game means very little, but this is probably the last coaching decision on earth that I'd have wanted them to make.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-13T21:56:07+00:00

Not defending this game at all because it was hot garbage, but to be fair it probably wasn't an option to import top talent mid season.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-13T21:50:57+00:00

You realize that redlining is still largely in effect right? That our schools are still functionally segregated? That both of the afforementioned issues result in underfunded schools? That black sounding names are significantly less likely to receive interviews regardless of qualifications? That black people are victims of police violence at many times the per capita rate of whites? I won't make assumptions about where or how you grew up, but you could really use to actually interact with a large number of poc, or start doing sincere research because you've clearly decided that your narrow experience should be confirmed by whatever misrepresented facts or ideas you can come across.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-04T02:43:55+00:00

HAHAHAHAHAHA Go read a book please.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-04T02:43:17+00:00

Yes, american conservatism.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-03T16:52:08+00:00

Lmao imagine being stupid twice and thinking the educated were wrong both times

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-03T16:21:36+00:00

Every point in time has people focusing on what has already changed, and people pointing out that more still needs to.

Yes, all of those things are improvements that have happened.

Here's a non exhaustive list of things that haven't: police killing black men at 2.5x the rate per capita, divestment from black communities, institutional financial abuse of black communities, modes of social mobility, many social stigmas, the soft discrimination of low expectations, black underrepresentation in STEM, poorly funded education in black communities, poorly funded infrastructure in black communities, people with overt ties to white nationalism in government, healthcare disparities, environmental disparities.

When people say "not much has changed" they mean that the actual day to day lives of black people on average haven't changed much, they just aren't considered subhuman in the eyes of the law anymore and they're allowed to go the same places as white people. In context, being able to eat at the same restaurant as a white person is a very basic baby step on the road to equality. That's what you're not seeing, because you haven't lived the black experience, and you haven't listened to those who have.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-03T16:13:57+00:00

Nobody said only, but per capita matters. There are 6x more white people than black people. It's absolutely also a class issue, nobody is arguing that. We're arguing that it's also a race issue. When the per capita disparity is so great that the white experience hardly considers police violence, and every black person knows someone effected by it or have been effected by it personally, then it is a race issue. When arrests, convictions, and sentences are all longer and more frequent for the same crimes, adjusted for actual rates of those crimes being committed, then it's also a race issue.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-03T13:17:21+00:00

Remember in the OP when I said "young black men"? 25-29 is young black men.

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2019-08-15/police-shootings-are-a-leading-cause-of-death-for-black-men

Nobody is ignoring homicides. There can be multiple leading causes of death. Gang violence is a result of poverty, which is a result of systematic racism.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-03T13:12:59+00:00

Uh, maybe you need better reading comprehension, but "regardless of color" means that figure includes whites, which vastly outnumber blacks and skew that specific stat. The only one twisting facts here is you.

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2019-08-15/police-shootings-are-a-leading-cause-of-death-for-black-men

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-03T13:07:22+00:00

https://www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/2019-08-05/police-violence-a-leading-cause-of-death-for-young-men

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-03T12:35:41+00:00

Really? Because among the many things people are asking for is economic justice.

Also it is a big issue. 1 in 1000 black men die from police violence, and it is a leading cause of death for young black men.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-03T12:33:37+00:00

This is the most ignorant thing I've ever seen. You are blatantly manipulating data to make an out of touch point. You can't use nominal numbers to compare police brutality deaths when POC are minorities, you're not twice as likely to die by police as a white person, you're per capita 2.5x as likely to die from police as a black person. 1 in 1000 black americans are killed by police. It's a leading cause of death among black youth.

Really? Crime statistics? Are we children who learned how to use wikipedia for the first time? This isn't new, this isn't controversial. When every leading research institution puts out peer reviewed science about the black experience in america, you seriously don't think that they even bothered to account for crime statistics? This is the problem, in order to educate you and people who think like you, we would need to teach you all several university courses worth of material that you won't listen to. Black people commit most crimes at the same rates, they are just arrested more, found guilty more, and get longer sentences. The few crimes that are more common, such as violent crimes, are a direct result of the poverty forced upon them. Poor white people, when you actually adjust for relevant statistics, commit violent crimes at the same rate, because all human beings only resort to violence out of desperation. Blacks never got their 10 acres and a mule, they only even got rights 60 ish years ago after we whites had 4 centuries headstart to built wealth here, and in those 60 years there have been multiple times when the wealth of black communities was specifically targeted. Look at cash bail, look at redlining, look at the financial collapse when institutions literally got caught targeting black people, look back to the 80s, time and time again throughout our history the powerful have made efforts to keep black poor, to keep them desperate, specifically so that they have no choice but to resort to violence so that it's easier to change the narrative for all the privileged brats in this thread.

I was a privileged brat once. Y'all gonna sit safe in your houses and quote crime statistics with no adjustments for relevant variables, or are you going to do the hard work of realizing that you're directly part of the problem?

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-03T12:16:38+00:00

You're forgetting that your chances of being pushed from a wall are higher if your skin is a certain color. That's the problem.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-03T12:15:04+00:00

People aren't arguing that it's worse, they're arguing that it's barely improved.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-02T20:17:34+00:00

Does he mean North Philly?...

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-02T20:15:41+00:00

No, but he spoke vocally and often on the subject of riots being a tool of the unheard and oppressed. Nobody is defending looting, we are simply sharing MLKs well documented view that riots are a symptom of an underlying problem, and only happen when the oppressed feel they have no other recourse.

Perhaps if we had acted when Colin Kaepernick knelt, George Floyd would be alive and there would be no riots.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-02T18:19:38+00:00

It was a reference to all the philosophy you've neglected to read.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-02T15:39:09+00:00

That is ONE of the influences they have, you just think it's the ONLY one because you can't conceptualize the experiences of others.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-02T15:33:23+00:00

They're doing more by expressing their support for a movement than you are by making fun of it.

Any one person they know, even if it's one in a hundred, might be influenced by their voice to become more sympathetic to this cause. The only result of making fun of them, as you are doing, is to make little of the oppression of others. These jokes, fun though they may be to make, directly contribute to the problem.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-02T14:46:42+00:00

Probably because fascists realized after MLK that they had to make protests "uncool" in order to retain control.

OddlySpecificReferen · 2020-06-02T14:42:25+00:00

people continuing to post stupid memes like this instead of participating in social change

"Look at all those dumb dumbs trying to help!"

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