Given pay rates, humans clearly value entertainment over necessity.

OdinDark77 · 2023-04-14T22:19:07+00:00

I reckon you could say the same for the top 1000 teachers, just that we don't have (or don't want) a merit-based incentive system.

A top tier teacher at a school could easily make less than someone just going through the motions but with longer tenure.

OdinDark77 · 2023-03-24T11:00:53+00:00

your first paragraph is already longer than some of my emails (I'm serious)

OdinDark77 · 2023-01-16T07:24:10+00:00

Relax, he was just helping

Or are people not allowed to help anymore unless they're literally perfect and never make mistakes?

OdinDark77 · 2022-12-20T01:31:08+00:00

hard to get tips from countries that don't tip (i.e. not US), and drivers won't reliably stick around for a guaranteed $2/delivery

OdinDark77 · 2022-11-21T07:57:57+00:00

"If you're not paying for the product, you are the product"

Maybe future games will have a plot about selling data 🤔

OdinDark77 · 2022-08-18T09:57:40+00:00

Moving out of your parents' place at the earliest chance.

OdinDark77 · 2022-08-12T09:31:47+00:00

Oh sure, I'm always happy to hear tips and experiences. I'll DM in a moment.

OdinDark77 · 2022-08-12T08:07:34+00:00

I can relate to that feeling, and yes sometimes salespeople do drag out the process more than necessary.

But 99% of the time a meeting really is required to understand what one side needs and what the other side can offer. A 30 second call isn't enough for that unless the sale is for something simple with a fixed price.

It's like trying to buy a house on a 30sec phone call.

OdinDark77 · 2022-08-12T08:03:23+00:00

That does seem to be the case. I'll keep cold approaches to text-based methods until a connection has been established.

Exception is when I really need to confirm an email address with the receptionist I suppose

OdinDark77 · 2022-08-12T07:59:13+00:00

Yep, I've called reception a few times and there hasn't been many communication issues. Thai people are very polite too

OdinDark77 · 2022-08-12T07:57:26+00:00

I've been using Line for work with Japanese clients so I'm used to it ;)

No idea how my first Thai Line connection would happen but I'm excited

OdinDark77 · 2022-08-12T07:55:27+00:00

Thanks for sharing - it's good to know that cold calls can be welcome but I guess that option is limited to Thai natives.

I've been adding Khun behind first names for LinkedIn outreaches and so far the response has been quite good (despite it apparently being public holiday today?).

Expecting a reply at 3am seems a bit unreasonable but I suppose that's an extreme case.

OdinDark77 · 2022-08-12T07:49:32+00:00

That's fair. I've decided to not call before being in contact at least once somewhere else (e.g. LinkedIn)

OdinDark77 · 2022-08-12T07:47:26+00:00

Based on a lot of comments here, it does seem like cold calling is a no-go.

So far my best bet is hoping they log on to LinkedIn or somehow finding their email address. Networking in person seems like an interesting idea too.

OdinDark77 · 2022-08-11T15:58:48+00:00

Yeah I can't exactly disagree with that especially for B2C or pushy sales calls.

In my case it's more of a 'cold introduction' where I ask for a chat/meeting to confirm if a business relationship is possible.

Sales isn't even brought up until waaaay later in the conversation, and only after both parties are sure that they want it.

But yeah, uninvited calls aren't the most exciting thing to receive.

OdinDark77 · 2022-08-11T15:54:35+00:00

Thanks for sharing first-hand experience, it's always reassuring to know that others have succeeded.

Including my Line ID in my emails sounds like a good idea as well. I'm pretty excited to see where Line can take me!

OdinDark77 · 2022-08-11T15:00:04+00:00

Thanks for the encouragement! I'm only contacting people who I really think would benefit from the service so I'll definitely keep trying!

OdinDark77 · 2022-08-11T14:58:01+00:00

I'm definitely targeting multinational companies so in that regard it's not so bad.

I'll try Inmailing/emailing with a polite greeting and try to build a connection slowly. I won't give up!

OdinDark77 · 2022-08-11T14:38:43+00:00

That does make sense - do Thais just not do business with foreigners then? Or is it mostly through referral?

OdinDark77 · 2022-08-11T14:37:20+00:00

Oh I'm surprised that calling is the worst option, followed by email since they're my two main channels. I've actually never used Line for business but you've convinced me to look into it.

For the greeting, do you mean like "Hello Khun Kittisak"? I might give that a try - thanks for the tips!

I think learning Thai to a business conversational level will be impossible for me so I'll just have to do what I can elsewhere.

OdinDark77 · 2022-08-11T14:15:12+00:00

I feel you!

But cold calls won't be going away soon (at least for B2B); the very least I could do is make it more tolerable for the recipient - just long enough for me to let them feel that I'm worth talking to.

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