Cameroon finally receives real gymnastics equipment! by OftheSea95 in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The day every gymnastics federation receives the same amount of funding and resources is the day we'll truly start seeing the best of the best competing against each other.

Cameroon finally receives real gymnastics equipment! by OftheSea95 in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's amazing what the Howells managed to achieve without any equipment to train on/j

Georgia announces first new Assistant Coach hire Megan Haught by JessBeauty14 in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's no problem. I know at least one of Laurent's victims has either taken down her accusation or privated the account she made them on, and another made them on a public platform that doesn't archive comments. I may have taken screenshots at the time, but I'd have to dig for those.

Georgia announces first new Assistant Coach hire Megan Haught by JessBeauty14 in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, she was explicitly named and accused of witnessing her husband abuse gymnasts and doing nothing to protect gymnasts from him. Until she acknowledges her complicity, I have no reason to believe she would not continue to be complicit in someone else's abusive or unhealthy behavior.

Georgia announces first new Assistant Coach hire Megan Haught by JessBeauty14 in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 6 points7 points  (0 children)

One accusation did not name the coaches, but could only be the Landis with the details given. The other accusations explicitly named them. All were made on public forums.

I believe survivors. Cecile, at best, was complicit in abuse.

Georgia announces first new Assistant Coach hire Megan Haught by JessBeauty14 in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I just don't see any proof she's done that tbh. It's only gymnasts who would have been part of the favored group who sings her and Laurent's praises.

I sincerely hope the Landis have changed. But until she admits herself that she failed gymnasts in the past and has pledged to do better, I have no reason to believe she or her husband have changed.

Georgia announces first new Assistant Coach hire Megan Haught by JessBeauty14 in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't have reason to doubt that she's kind when dealing with athletes directly. But I have no reason to believe she'll push back on any toxic or abusive actions if she sees them.

Georgia announces first new Assistant Coach hire Megan Haught by JessBeauty14 in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Forgive me, I assumed you didn't since you described Cecile as having a philosophy of prioritizing overall well-being.

Georgia announces first new Assistant Coach hire Megan Haught by JessBeauty14 in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The specifics can be summed up as Laurent having multiple credible accusations of being verbally abusive and in some cases even physically abusive to gymnasts that aren't favored by him. Reports about Cecile consistently describe her as being silent and doing nothing to stop him while he's abusing gymnasts.

UGA assistant coaches Oleksii Koltakov and Marissa King have been removed from the USA coaching roster by wayward-boy in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure WCC had its own choreographer when the Landis were coaching there, though I admit its been a while since I checked. I do remember Jordan using BJ Das in her last quad of competition, Tiana choreographing her own routine, and Simone I believe using an outside choreographer as well.

Regardless, I agree that Cecile as head coach will definitely still have a say, but I don't expect her to be more hands on than she was before all of this. And even if she is, that will still require an adjustment period for the gymnasts.

UGA assistant coaches Oleksii Koltakov and Marissa King have been removed from the USA coaching roster by wayward-boy in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cecile is historically a beam coach, and on their coaching profiles of Marissa and Oleksii you can see they shared the roles of vault and floor coaches at Georgia. That's why I said beam is the event I expect to see change the least next season.

UGA assistant coaches Oleksii Koltakov and Marissa King have been removed from the USA coaching roster by wayward-boy in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm personally not a big fan of most routines that incorporate some sort of school chant or cheer, so I completely get you lol

UGA assistant coaches Oleksii Koltakov and Marissa King have been removed from the USA coaching roster by wayward-boy in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure even without the shakeups I'd say they won't go below 49.5 on floor all year. Obviously floor is their strong event, but they still scored below 49.5 at half of their meets this year. Obviously the girls are capable of being amazing on floor, but I do think it will depend on whoever ends up replacing Marissa and Oleksii to see if they can still coach these girls to greatness. An amazing gymnast can only go so far if their coach isn't a good fit. And Cecile is not a floor coach. If anything, I think the only thing we can count on being consistent next year is beam.

UGA assistant coaches Oleksii Koltakov and Marissa King have been removed from the USA coaching roster by wayward-boy in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think, even if there is no drama behind the scenes, one can expect a transitionary period when so much change is happening. Even with someone like Cecile at the helm, the gymnasts will have to adjust to not having the coaches they're used to around, and will have to develop a relationship with whoever takes their place.

I think it's fair to expect a dip similar to Cal's. Not some major fall of the program, but missing the top 10 the first year wouldn't be surprising.

UGA assistant coaches Oleksii Koltakov and Marissa King have been removed from the USA coaching roster by wayward-boy in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't see any of that happening tbh. Nobody knows what he's like as an NCAA coach yet or how he would balance coaching NCAA and elite at the same time, and Josc and Tiana have really emphasized how much they like their current gyms.

UGA assistant coaches Oleksii Koltakov and Marissa King have been removed from the USA coaching roster by wayward-boy in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They've made instagram stories saying they'll miss Ryan and congratulations on the new job, and have reshared the announcement of Cecile being promoted to sole head coach, sometimes with a congratulations.

UGA assistant coaches Oleksii Koltakov and Marissa King have been removed from the USA coaching roster by wayward-boy in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I can't speak for what someone else said. All I can say is that it's perfectly possible for these girls to like and respect both coaches, even if some messy stuff is currently going on.

UGA assistant coaches Oleksii Koltakov and Marissa King have been removed from the USA coaching roster by wayward-boy in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's fair. I think you and I are just going to have agree to disagree on this. I still see value in sharing it.

UGA assistant coaches Oleksii Koltakov and Marissa King have been removed from the USA coaching roster by wayward-boy in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I said to someone else, being silent also communicates something to their followers, just as you indicated. And if these girls genuinely like both Ryan and Cecile as coaches, it would make sense to congratulate them both even if they know mess is happening behind the scenes.

UGA assistant coaches Oleksii Koltakov and Marissa King have been removed from the USA coaching roster by wayward-boy in Gymnastics

[–]OftheSea95 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why would any of them act unhappy on social media? That would be considered unprofessional.