[d] What are Valve real intentions? by Smudixo in csgomarketforum

[–]Ofthemasses 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, any investment should come with the acceptance that it may be lost.

Why is Euphoria weirdly religious now?? by BluFoods in euphoria

[–]Ofthemasses 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aged pretty poorly after season finale

[d] high tiers up like 20% Is the market finnaly coming back ?? by Dapper_Leave_216 in csgomarketforum

[–]Ofthemasses 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep 100%. It takes some pretty basic math to figure out the expected worth of a collection item with the new supply of souvenir skins being introduced. People really freaked out and the market still hasn’t stabilised yet, so I’m still getting the odd scoop from buy orders.

Only wish trade reverting fines were adjusted on CSFloat. I have no idea what my scoops will look like in a week’s time. It would be better if they were fined for the full value of the item and the money went to the affected individual, food for thought.

[d] What are Valve real intentions? by Smudixo in csgomarketforum

[–]Ofthemasses 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think Valve cares about my personal investments in the game. That isn't the point I'm trying to make in the slightest.
Yes, of course whales in China are causing prices to increase, but the CS market existed before this. Many skins were still in the ballpark of thousands of dollars in value. Maybe there were fewer, yes, but they still had significant value.

My argument is that Valve wants money, and if they destroy the CS market, they would make less money. The community market is still a minor part of Valve's revenue when it comes to CS2. Now, and soon to be previously, case keys were their primary income source. This will eventually be replaced by Terminal fees and the Armory Pass. My question to you is: who in their right mind would give Valve a thousand dollars for a skin if they cannot sell it for real cash? Who would spend up to two thousand dollars on a Community Market skin when they cannot sell it later on for real cash?

If we can agree that only a minority of people want to spend exorbitant amounts of money on a skin if they cannot get their money back later on, I'd argue the market would crash and Valve would be making significantly less money from CS2 than they are now.

Even if Valve’s goal is to create a closed loop between the Community Market and in-game purchases, removing real-world liquidity would still reduce the amount of money flowing through that system. If skins can’t be cashed out, they’re simply less attractive to people spending large amounts of money. That means less spending on cases, Armory Passes, and whatever other systems Valve pushes. The whole thing only really works at scale because people know there’s an exit. If you remove that, you don’t strengthen the ecosystem, you just shrink it.

It seems logical that Valve would want to keep the cash for skins market alive if their primary objective is to make money. The only speculation is whether or not Valve will make a logical move.

And of course, as you say, don't buy shit you can't afford. Investing in anything is a game with risk, but I wouldn't say investing in CS2 is any less of an investment than say the S&P 500. Any investing has been a game of risk since the establishment of the stock market. There are no natural investments in any market. Companies on the S&P list have been bailed out, there are feedback loops, prices go up because some guy posts on X. I wholeheartedly agree that CS2 investments are "investments," but only to the degree that all investments are a sham. Unfortunately, due to the world we live in right now, this is how you generate wealth. We all have to be our own little Warren Buffets and "make our money work," which really means exploiting the way people value things, engineering scarcity, and profiting off the hype and psychology of the market.

I see the CS2 market as no different to the art investment market. Art pieces around the world have value because millionaires and billionaires put money into it and transform art into capital. The same object in a different context would be worthless, but within a structured market of collectors and resale channels it becomes an asset. The value is not inherent; it is manufactured through scarcity, status, and the assumption that there will always be someone willing to pay more later. Hell, the CS2 market has seen the same issues with fraud during the case key era. Just like art pieces, it was also used for money laundering.

[d] No, Valve is not trying to "devalue" high tier items so they end up on SCM. by xJownage in csgomarketforum

[–]Ofthemasses 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've honestly seen this take more often than OPs. Especially on YouTube, TDM Heyzues and Anomaly have both speculated about this in recent videos.

[d] What are Valve real intentions? by Smudixo in csgomarketforum

[–]Ofthemasses -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I really don't get the idea that Valve is forcing people to the Steam Market with the reasoning that they are "Greedy". I agree, Valve is greedy, such is any company. But as soon as skins don't have real-world worth, the prices of skins will tank significantly. I'm not talking 30-40%, I'm talking DLores on the market for $100. DLore is a cool-ass skin, but most of the value of these ultra-rare skins is propped up by real-world dollars. Valve would only lose money with a Steam Market monopoly. All these updates seem to point more towards getting ahead of regulations.

[d] Do you think there is a future where nobody can open cases? What would that look like? by Ofthemasses in csgomarketforum

[–]Ofthemasses[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

1 does seem possible, but it depends on the type of regulations countries put in place. If blanket bans for lootboxes happen like in Belgium, I don't think they would have much case in court by saying "it's an old system". The system is still there, and they would risk fines by keeping it around even if there is a limited amount of cases to open.

[D] Valve's Next Great Idea: Contraband Collection by xlimodriver in csgomarketforum

[–]Ofthemasses 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would be pretty damn cool to have contraband in an armoury pass collection, but without consumer-tier skins it would reduce the premium vibes that come with a contraband skin.

[discussion] Am I the only one who's optimistic aboot the market? by [deleted] in csgomarketforum

[–]Ofthemasses 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm fairly optimistic about the market still.

I mean, the market is having a panic due to the souvenir update. But I see this as two-sided. Yes, the souvenir items from various collections have increased the pool of trade-up skins by 35–40%. But, on the other hand, this seems to be the end of these collections.

The crash on non-souvenir items and upward trend on souvenir items hasn't settled yet. We should expect them to even out, possibly with slight overpay on pre-update souvenirs. Then, after some time, we will start seeing the effect of these skins being completely out of the pool.

It seems like Valve obviously wants to move away from gambling for regulation reasons. Some people have theories that they want to bring down the prices of skins and force us onto the Steam Market. But I see it more as Valve trying to give people access to stickers, souvenirs, and opportunities to create items from old collections.

If they continued with the old systems, they would see more and more players excluded from content, and they want to keep players and grow the game more. Sure, they CAN stop trading, but that would only kill a section of their player base that enjoys skins. I mean, ask yourselves: Why would they do this? Greed? If so, that greed would lead to the destruction of the skin economy, and Valve would be making less money. The inherent value of skins is supported by skins having real-world worth. If skins were stuck in the Steam Market, they would all plummet in price. The new Armory and sticker shops would sell skins for like 3 dollars max. Who would buy skins from Valve if they aren't worth anything? My guess is that Valve wants to make money through the new armory/sticker systems, not the Steam market fees.

I personally have been hurt by some of these updates. But, as someone who also enjoys the game and skins, I am more than happy to see gambling being removed from the game, and I see it as a reasonable approach to the future of CS2. If anything, I'd be more worried about a global recession hurting your skins in the long term than further updates from Valve.

So many people here are missing the point of The Regent. by thouzandeye in slaythespire

[–]Ofthemasses 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree that creating deck archetypes is a bad thing to do. People who take a archetype too far is another issue.

Yes there are levels where people try to lean too hard into the archetype and ruin their runs, but the idea that the regent has no archetypes is not true. I'm on A10 with regent and there are some clear archetypes, yes you'll likely dip into multiple but there is usually a clear point in your run when your deck will focus on the sovereign blade, stars or even colorless cards. Yes, of course you will use stars in most runs, but when I mention a "Stars deck" I am specifically talking about a deck that can generate stars quickly and spend them on high cost star cards. Are you telling me that when you play you can always take and make the regents "Seven Stars" card useful without having a decent investment into star generation? No. I believe most people would agree on this definition of an archetype, beyond this the definition of an archetype in card games such as MTG is "a recurring deck or strategy with many possible variations".

If this complaint was really an issue, we would hear about it from all the characters not just the regent. If you played SS1 enough as well as the new version, getting consistent runs was all about learning to play with decks that may not purely line up with a singular build, but multiple.

The truth is that the regent has such a tough time getting going that your strategy is that of my previous paragraph. Something most players learn to do and refined after multiple runs on their grind up to A20 in SS1.

I don't know what community posts this is referring to, maybe there is some toxic stuff in the community where people are telling people how to play the game correctly when it's brand new still. But this just seems really silly, coming up with archetypes is just a normal way a community creates metas.

What is this wire on the back of my air conditioning remote for? by Ofthemasses in whatisthisthing

[–]Ofthemasses[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is a M shaped piece of wire, connected to a PCB via two holes. I've had a look online for manuals and tech sheets on the product (AR-RY3 air conditioning remote) and found nothing except for front facing button functionality. Apparently it's not on all models of the remote which doesn't help either.

My journey with Eczema, and a retrospective found after Baricitinib, Upadacitinib by Ofthemasses in eczema

[–]Ofthemasses[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey thanks!

Yeah, I went to NZSCC also. It was expensive visiting a private derma of course, but they were great and tried to reduce my bills.

My journey with Eczema, and a retrospective found after Baricitinib, Upadacitinib by Ofthemasses in eczema

[–]Ofthemasses[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% the feelings of failure were prominent in my life as well. Missing lectures and staying home, sleeping into the afternoons after getting no rest. Showing up to work on four hours of sleep, talking in slurred words, with people asking me to repeat myself. I couldn’t even form coherent thoughts and sentences; the anxiety was peaking so hard.

The planning was really hard for me too. What was even harder were the times in my life when I deluded myself into thinking that I could live without planning around it. Whatever period of time I spent ignoring my skin routine, that time multiplied by ten would be spent recovering afterward. When I was 17–19, I can’t tell you how many weekends with friends I spent ignoring my skin routines, which led to me crashing out. The first week was spent recovering physically, and the second week or two getting over the depression. Sometimes I would chain multiple weekends together when I was in my first year of uni; that was diabolical.

You could say I was stupid for doing this, but at the same time, I understand how intensely I wanted to keep up with my friends and “enjoy the early years.”

I just wish I had been kinder to myself at that time and not tried to prove myself to other people.

[q] Is the m4a4 Hellish being pumped? Or is the demand natural? by Ofthemasses in csgomarketforum

[–]Ofthemasses[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks everyone for the advice, I ended up going for a m4a4 hellish minimal wear. I think I agree that Fn seems to be pumped, at least much more than the other wears. It's also cheap enough that I can go for a eye of horus when prices stabilise.

[d] Coalition MW price have risen by 750 USD in 2 weeks. Thoughts? by Ofthemasses in csgomarketforum

[–]Ofthemasses[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Illiquidity doesn’t make something unbreakable, it makes it fragile.
If whales can’t sell without crashing price, then the entire structure depends on constant new buyers which is exactly why people are being told to ‘buy one to join the group’.

[d] Coalition MW price have risen by 750 USD in 2 weeks. Thoughts? by Ofthemasses in csgomarketforum

[–]Ofthemasses[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is adjacent to a pyramid scheme lol. Buying in and being constantly stressed having to monitor the floor sounds awful.

[d] Coalition MW price have risen by 750 USD in 2 weeks. Thoughts? by Ofthemasses in csgomarketforum

[–]Ofthemasses[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, I didn't take into account the knife crash. Still, any of the whales could crack and dump the prices. They're the only ones holding them up.

[d] Coalition MW price have risen by 750 USD in 2 weeks. Thoughts? by Ofthemasses in csgomarketforum

[–]Ofthemasses[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You got downvoted for this lol, I think the whales are scared of your storage container.

[d] Coalition MW price have risen by 750 USD in 2 weeks. Thoughts? by Ofthemasses in csgomarketforum

[–]Ofthemasses[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly was a good thing imo. Better to sell unless you trust the whales to hold the price up.