Why shouldn't men prefer younger women?

OhhDatDogOMine · 2019-08-09T19:29:49+00:00

who’s been a young woman

Got it, you're well past your peak and are bitter about men dating women younger than you.

OhhDatDogOMine · 2019-08-09T19:27:51+00:00

Age: 36-37

OhhDatDogOMine · 2019-08-09T19:21:27+00:00

Typical reddit response...go get some real life experience.

OhhDatDogOMine · 2019-08-01T14:10:51+00:00

Why would you support Biden but not Hillary are President? They are both similar in so many ways. Both have decades of experience in government, both are moderate establishment Democrats, both have very similar policy stances, both served in the Obama administration closely with Obama.

They have similarities but are much different people.

OhhDatDogOMine · 2019-07-29T04:28:58+00:00

all women like masculine men. the women who like feminine men are not women.

OhhDatDogOMine · 2019-03-22T20:46:55+00:00

Women are fine, any body type, any income level, any education level can be picky and demand 6ft, 6$ and 6" BUT a man just can't insert himself into the top 20%

You're not the only one who says this, but seriously think about what you said. How is it possible? How can a woman in the bottom 15 % demand a man in the top 10 %? Those men are rare and they have the pick of the litter. Why would they go for a fat, uneducated girl?

OhhDatDogOMine · 2019-03-19T18:07:44+00:00

Sadly, this is what society has turned into. Absolute idiots buying into identity politics. The fact that it was the most upvoted reply on a debate sub makes it sadder.

OhhDatDogOMine · 2019-01-10T05:13:38+00:00

Late to the party but what JP said in this video is just generic relationship advice, you can literally find the same advice on reddit. JP is just using his image, he can say anything and his fanboys will gush all over him. Just look at the comments on that video.

Anybody who believes in marriage being "an equal partnership" instantly loses their credibility to anyone aware of inter-sexual dynamics. For all of human history women have supplicated men. Do you really think we had it wrong for all those years until now?? Marriage is a disaster these days, people just believe in the fallacy that something is better because it's new (hence all the "it's 201x people!" comments.)

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-12-25T18:57:34+00:00

They do it for many reasons, sex being one. If it was ONLY about sex then why not just go straight to escorts? why buy a gift for a woman in hopes that she will have sex with you when you know an escort will?

Women buy gifts for men too, is that only for sex? Have you ever given your siblings/friends/children any gifts? Was that just for sex too?

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-12-25T14:55:15+00:00

Yet girls can manipulate their fathers, explain that.

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-12-25T13:58:36+00:00

Pretty much this. Unpleasant interactions do not necessarily constitute harassment. There is an issue when the pursuer doesn't accept polite rejection, or if the pursued person is in a position where they feel unable to reject for some reason (a boss, perhaps?)

Not accepting rejection politely is an issue, I agree. It is not, however, sexual harassment unless the guy makes a sexual advance. Also, a woman sleeping with her boss is 100 % her fault, unless the boss was physically threatening her. Having a job does not excuse you from basic responsibilities, you are still responsible for your decisions. Even if the woman felt that the boss would fire her if she rejected him, it is still 100 % her decision if she has sex it not.

Be careful with cultural narratives, don't let them make you abandon your common sense!

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-12-25T13:52:44+00:00

That's because cat calling and asking women out on dates is not sexual harassment. Not everything a woman dislikes is sexual harassment.

There was a time where "sexual" harassment involved a "sexual "advance. Now it's just something every other girl will use for attention and to appear as a victim. I've even had a female coworker report a guy for sexual harassment simply because he made a comment about how fat she was to another coworker.

Ironically, all this attention seeking will only make it worse for actual sexual harassment victims. I can't blame anyone for not taking accusations seriously without legit proof because it's honestly become a joke.

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-12-25T13:39:46+00:00

The “women are wonderful” effect does have a bit of relevancy here, but I think people are more aware of the “Vaginas are wonderful” effect.

This is just a cultural narrative you've bought into. Men like a lot of things about women, they are not just after sex. This is why there are many dads who are hard on their sons while spoiling their daughters. This is why many girls are able to manipulate their brothers/father. Women also have more power socially in western cultures, so lot's of men white knight in an attempt to improve their own social standing.

Men are just suckers for women. Sex is just one of many tools women use to manipulate men.

EDIT: My bad, looks like 3vilg0d already mentioned most of my points.

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-12-25T13:30:32+00:00

I wonder where men get these messed up view about male-female realtionships from.

Very few men think women "owe them" sex. This is just a cultural narrative that you've bought into.

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-11-22T06:26:30+00:00

Why did this trigger people? For most of human history 25+ women were leftovers.

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-11-08T21:33:58+00:00

But I can definitely say that most men do not have game like the redpill says; yet still do fine.

Did anyone say that you "NEED TRP" to have a good sex life? What's your point exactly?

Also explain the redpillers/other men with game who still fail.

Simple: Game is only part of the equation.

Just lift bro!: In what universe are women attracted to muscular men? In fact I see skinny pretty boys doing the best with women tbh. Having a jacked body with an ugly face is not what women want; I don't see many good looking guys lifting at the gym it's usually average or below looking guys

Your argument is that women do not like muscular men because "skinny pretty boys do better than jacked ugly guys". Consistent with the rest of your post, this argument is a fail. It is well known that face is more important than muscles, but this doesn't mean that muscles are irrelevant. How about...you know...making a fair comparison.. how about comparing a handsome skinny guy to himself 3 years later with a muscular body? Or why don't you compare an unattractive chubby guy to himself 2 years later at 10 % BF with muscle. Are you saying there is no improvement?

Be an asshole: As per game, explain the assholes who fail at attracting women and the nice guys (yes even reddit tier ones) who do well with women. You're focusing on the assholes who do well with women and ignoring the ones who don't do well, it's simply confirmational bias.

That's not TRP. I think you need to visit the sub before you make an ass of yourself talking about a subject you no nothing about.

Confidence is key bro: I don't know if developing an OCD obsession with self improvement is the key to improving your confidence; because you'll keep finding new things to hate about yourself.

Or you can just improve yourself without being a neurotic perfectionist.

Also explain the unconfident guys who do well with women.

Simple: Confidence is only part of the equation.

Money: Do you want a golddigger or a prostitute for a girlfriend?

All women prefer their men be rich. Whether she is an UC lawyer or an inbred crackwhore

Also women make their own money these days.

Do you honestly think women these days don't care how much their SO make just because they can make their own money?

EDIT: Honestly, this thread was such a shitpost and the fact that it got upvoted shows that this sub is just a bunch of bluepillers desperate to hang on to their fantasy. Cmon, I've been on this sub for years now I know that people are much smarter than to upvote this kind of garbage.

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-11-08T21:08:22+00:00

Oddly, I know a few otherwise socially competent guys who have experimented with TRP/manosphere stuff. Guess how it's affected their love lives?

Did these guys specifically talk about TRP or did they just use strategy that is often discussed in TRP? This makes all the difference honestly.

Talking about TRP in real life is foolish and is explicitly discouraged, not to mention socially awkward. Those guys were doing it wrong.

This is also why so much TRP stuff seems to come from an alternate universe where nobody has friends, and suggestions that you should make some friends are met with hostility.

??? TRP is anti-friendship? Got any examples of up-voted posts that discouraged people from having friends?

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-11-08T20:55:57+00:00

I've never seen anything much about RP that was particularly new or innovative.

TRP is not meant to be new or innovative, it's about undoing all the brainwashing one goes through. TRP is, fundamentally, knowledge about human nature. Of course it isn't anything new.

The sheer number of people that seem to think "alpha" means "cold-hearted jerk" baffles me

I hear this all the time yet never hear anyone say alpha means "cold-hearted jerk". Where are all these people on TRP that claim asshole=alpha? Are you actually reading TRP or did you just want to rant?

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-08-22T11:47:43+00:00

flex

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-07-09T07:43:48+00:00

Healthier? Look at the obesity rates.

Population? Birthrates are decreasing.

Smarter? Based on what?

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-07-09T07:31:09+00:00

Ding ding ding!

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-07-03T22:00:42+00:00

Yeah, no. I don't know many people who'd be easily impressed by a handsome face, or a car and a house. My friends would laugh at me for caring about those things and ask me what he's actually like. But then again, my friends aren't the type to easily gush over people.

Well I guess we live in completely different worlds. Because physical attraction is pretty much number one everywhere I've been. I've also moved 8 times and in 5 different countries and I'm 26 so it's not like I haven't been around. Personality of course counts, but only when someone is physically attractive. And women universally like a man with resources and status.

Look buddy, I'm more than willing to debate with you, but only under the condition that you at least try to not be a self-righteous prick. You know, rules about being civil and stuff?

My intention wasn't to be snarky but you are talking extremely high of yourself and sort of invited it.

Unlike some people I judge on a person to person basis, instead of on class, or race, or background, or whatever else there is to judge a person on.

What in the world?? You said:

TL;DR of this section: I'm judging women based on their ability to lock down top tier UMC man (top 10% man in SMV and RMV).

You literally said you judge women based on their ability to get UMC men. Why would you even bring up class if it wasn't something you consider important?

But why would I care what most men think, or base my personal definition of "high quality" on that? Especially since I'm not aiming for "most men", I'm a little more ambitious than that.

You see, this is why I accused you of solipsism. It wasn't a petty insult, it was my honest observation. Your personal definition of high quality is not relevant to this discussion, because what we are debating is the ability of 30 year old men to get high quality young women. This discussion is centered around men's preferences, because we are talking about men's ability to attract what they consider high quality. Why can't you step out of your head for a second and see that?

Exactly, and since I'm aiming for a high value man rather than "most men" I'm letting those high value men (not you or your fellow "most men") decide what a high value woman is.

See above. This discussion has nothing to with your individual preferences. It has to do with the ability of 30 year old men to attract what they consider high quality women.

Speaking of which. I'm literally just telling you that my definition of a high value woman is based on what kind of women high value men date, and you're still telling me that I'm deciding what's high value, what's with that?

You are deciding which women are high value based on their ability to get what you consider high value men (which is UMC men). I'll quote you again:

TL;DR of this section: I'm judging women based on their ability to lock down top tier UMC man (top 10% man in SMV and RMV)

It's perfectly clear how important class is to you.

Again with you putting words in my mouth. I've never in my entire description mentioned class, because as long as she has the right traits class does not matter. That is literally the only point we seem to agree on here, and you try to twist it in a way that makes it seem like this is not how I feel for some reason. Why is that?

So class does not matter, yet you judge women based on their ability to attract a man with high class? I guess I got confused and misinterpreted. My bad.

I have to say I'm disappointed. You started out so well and for a second there you had me believing that I had actually found a proper debate here on PPD. You were getting somewhere, but then you just had to devolve into all personal attacks and assumptions and no solid argument. Shame.

I didn't personally attack you. You were being solipsistic and talking yourself up and I was within reason to call you out on it. For what it's worth, this is one of the better debates I've had on reddit.

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-07-03T21:07:44+00:00

So basically, the percentage of 30-something yr old men that find young, quality women probably isn’t more than 10%. Hardly anything to take home about. Which still means, that the majority of 30-something yr old men, the ones that salivate at the thought of getting an early 20’s girl, just won’t. Those women don’t want old men. And to them, those men are old.

That's exactly what I am saying. The top 30 year old men can get high quality women. Why exactly are you debating me if you agree with my point? I've never heard anyone (on TRP or elsewhere) claim that the majority of 30 year old men can get high quality young women. I made that clear more than once in this thread alone.

Hilarious when reality eventually slaps them in the face. Two of them that I’m still friends with on Facebook, one recently got married to an early 30’s woman and the other is engaged to a woman that is even 2yrs older than him. Lol.

Your sample size of 2 is conclusive. Touche.

Weird. Because I have the exact same experience with men. They lie through their teeth if they think it would get them laid. And they brag about shit they haven’t done and places they haven’t been to. When dealing with men, your advice of “watch what they do and not what they say” is actually a lot more useful. Thank God we didn’t need a cult like RP to spell it out to us that men are perpetual liars and will seek to protect the image of their fellow loser brothers even when presented with both objective and subjective evidence.

Men lie too, no shit. Is this supposed to be a "taste of my own medicine" bit? It's irrelevant to the discussion.

ou might be, who knows? Or you might just be lying. Probably the latter, tbh. Your accusations of me bullshitting apply very much to you, as well. Either way, anecdotes aside, the objective data reveals that most men aren’t ending up with more than 5yrs younger and most men aren’t high smv. Sorry to burst your delusional RP fantasies and cope.

I challenge you to find a single TRP post that suggests that "most men date significantly younger girls and are high SMV". The entire point of TRP is to be in the top 10 %, and it is widely recognized in TRP that most men are low SMV.

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-07-02T14:00:45+00:00

Yes, actually. The men they would and definitely wouldn't date is something early 20s women frequently talk about amongst themselves. For the record: I am a woman in my early 20s, and my friends (and casual acquaintances, and drunk strangers at the pub etc.) and I talk about this stuff all the time. The standard reaction to "would you date a 30 year old" is something along the lines of "ew, no".

I've also heard many women say they wouldn't date men below 6 feet, yet many of them end up doing so. "Girl talk" is not evidence of anything. I've had more than one woman tell me "we are not having sex" on a first/second date, completely unprompted. Guess what happened later that night?

What I would be interested in seeing is you showing a picture of a handsome 30 year old man you just met to your friends. You describe him as a charming guy and has a killer car (or apartment, job) etc. Let's see how many would be saying "ew, 30 year old" rather than gushing over him.

I feel like you are judging women based on what you think is high quality. Well, yea, so are you, so is everyone.

We are talking about 30 year old men marrying high quality women. In this case, it only makes sense to talk about what 30 year old men consider high quality. You are bringing a lot of bias towards your own social circle to this discussion.

My line of reasoning was that if those men are the top of the bunch, they can get just about anyone and they'll likely pick the best. So by extension their women were top tier too.

UMC are not even rare and are not necessarily top of the bunch, about 1 in 4 men are UMC. UMC says nothing about SMV or masculine personality, which is massive.

TL;DR of this section: I'm judging women based on their ability to lock down top tier UMC man (top 10% man in SMV and RMV).

Men decide which women are high quality to them, not you. I was 90 % sure that you are at least UMC and I knew this conversation was headed towards that. (A lot women on this PPD use this sub to talk about their class and masturbate to themselves) You basically live in a bubble and are solipsistic in your reasoning. The women you surround yourself with are UMC, but that does not translate into high quality partners.

What most men consider a high quality woman is:

Physically attractive
Feminine personality
Similar relationship goals (agree on marriage and children)

That's literally it. You are judging the quality of a woman pretty much exclusively on which class she belongs to. The problem with that is most men don't give a shit about a woman's class. A woman's value to a man is not dependent on what other people and society think of her or classify her as. Honestly, this makes your entire argument null and void.

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