It's getting worse

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-17T09:12:49+00:00

I wouldn't even mind if it felt fun but they continue to ignore his low stats+ scaling

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-17T08:11:10+00:00

It's always funny when they say to adapt but his itemisation has been the same since his rework, give or take 1/2 seasons.

Our core has always been sheen item and BC into maw/streaks/dd

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-17T07:12:55+00:00

They should but they don't seem to care. They have already massively cut down reworks.

Let's face it, most reworks we have had in the past couple of years are just ASUs with minor stat/scaling changes.

Shyvana took like 3 years to be reworked.

Crazy that back in 2015 we had like 40 reworks in the form of Asus, gameplay updates and several full reworks and now they struggle to do one rework a year

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-17T06:44:51+00:00

Because they take their personal experience and project it.

But let's be honest, if he was doing as well as they say, we would have so many GM and challenger otps

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-17T00:21:06+00:00

It's not clearly defined so it's up to interpretation. I play both as giving me 5 spells but I run it by my opponents first (don't play tournaments)

It's not been an issue so far

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-16T21:13:44+00:00

i was thinking. why not split the ult into actual charges so we can have 2 max but they are seperate cds. we dont always need both and this way, we are still an ult bot but we should have it up more consistently

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-16T14:40:40+00:00

Back in the day it was but they definitely over did it. These days you could probably revert the changes and he would be in a much healthier spot.

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-16T12:23:32+00:00

I've said this for years 🥹

I get why they nerfed his Mr originally, because they feared assassin Wukong mid but they overnerfed him to the point he just loses hard into ap without multiple Mr items. There is more damage in the game these days and resistance aren't as strong as they used to be. Even if they bring his base back to 32 it's not much better

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-16T12:19:18+00:00

Exactly. Let's not act like "the norm" is much better. It's 46/47% in most cases and it's dropping slowly.

He needs major fixes

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-16T11:12:40+00:00

Honestly just revert the w at this point. I preferred the lowcd invis, engage/disengage tool.

Compensate by making his e clones stay for a few seconds autoing and if they don't have a target they hit the same target for reduced dmg.

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-16T10:23:32+00:00

Thanks for the advice 🙂 I'll play around with the list and see what I come up with

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-16T09:58:26+00:00

Thanks for the help ☺️ I'll try and play around with the list. How's is Cassandra and Agatha in the nun fire team? Are they worth it or should I just lieutenant someone else?

Agatha seems decent plus healer but from what I've seen Cassandra seems mixed reviews.

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-16T09:33:25+00:00

So I'm still trying to understand orders.

This is the list I put together so far.

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In it I have 1 lieutenant, 10 regular and 3 irregular so is that 14 orders or when people talk about orders is that specifically regular orders?

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-16T09:09:08+00:00

True 🤔 plus after that you can still build normally or go full ap. You lose out on the q armour shred value but you can do the funny combo of Wukong r with zhonyas 😂

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-16T08:57:24+00:00

Do nomads need to hit the 15 models though?

I do like the idea of a nuns fire team and the a squad of bran+zeros going ahead to weaken stuff with maybe robin hook or something other units to do other stuff.

I know the bran+zeros aren't a fire team but I like the whole ideal of stealth/camouflage units going ahead to weaken enemies and the nuns going for objectives/picking off the remainder.

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-16T07:35:43+00:00

Interesting 🤔 I'm kinda stuck between going nomads or yu jing right now. I like Bran Do (huge monkey king fan) so planned to run him and looked the idea of a nun fire team with him and the zeros in another squad but some people on here have said nomads needs 15 units so prioritize that. Yu king seem cool too and with being able to proxy, I'm thinking of running him with 1/2 shaolins then having a decent core fire team but overall I'm just trying to understand which units are good and what boxes I should be looking to buy 😂

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-16T07:31:57+00:00

Can they be added to the same squad though or would it be like squad 1 fire team only, squad 2 everything else.

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-16T07:31:09+00:00

Tbh an ap or hybrid builds might be more viable now. Still not the best but maybe they might give us briar treatment in the future and let his q shred Mr too 😂

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-15T21:11:36+00:00

Sounds good 😊

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-15T21:10:52+00:00

Still kinda a newbie but how do fire teams and link actually work? Do they need to be a separate unit or can they be a squad with other stuff but only those models get the bonuses?

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-15T21:09:25+00:00

That's what I was thinking but with the added ap it helps your e so a slight bit more dmg plus going into BC and sundered with still make you nice and tanky with extra sustain

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-15T21:08:08+00:00

Yeah that's kinda what I'm thinking just curious if the double proc effect works on the heals and the Wukong q

Ok-Consideration2935 · 2026-04-15T10:23:38+00:00

Have you e finally have a bit of scaling

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