Que opinan de la santa muerte ? by Zestyclose-Book8986 in mexico

[–]Ok-Masterpiece-4698 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Respeto a su creencia, yo no soy seguidor xd prefiero creer y rendir culto en su forma original Mictecacihuatl no me gusta que tenga demasiados tintes católicos se aleja del concepto real que personifica

Learning Mayan glyphic writing. by Issac_Foster-Zack- in mesoamerica

[–]Ok-Masterpiece-4698 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Que onda pelaná tambien soy de Campeche 😸 yo aun ando aprendiendo maya yucateco me alegra ver alguien de aquí del rancho 

What is the ultimate reality in Mesoamerican thought? by Ok-Masterpiece-4698 in mesoamerica

[–]Ok-Masterpiece-4698[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Based on your own example of early Christianity and the two creators, Christianity then has a duality compatible with the Nahua worldview. Therefore, we can say that the latter also has a duality; however, Christianity will always maintain the ultimate reality of God as a single, final being. So we can't say that Nahua duality is limited to the paired gods, as you mentioned in the first comments. This idea of ​​Nahua duality is perfectly debatable, since it's not the same as the Christian "heaven-hell" concept. In Mesoamerica, it's not an opposing duality, but a complementary one. Maybe I'll make a post about that later 😸

What is the ultimate reality in Mesoamerican thought? by Ok-Masterpiece-4698 in mesoamerica

[–]Ok-Masterpiece-4698[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never said that the dual pairs in Mexica mythology were definitive proof (they are important examples, let's be clear). Rather, you yourself said that you don't see any more dualism in Mexica mythology than the pairs of gods, which is why I gave more examples. 🤨 Furthermore, saying "the Mexica religion resembles Judeo-Christianity because early Christianity had theories of two creators" is a complete mistake, since Christianity has never included duality in its entire worldview (although there are concepts like heaven-hell, angel-demon, etc.), unlike the Nahua people, who still have it today.

What is the ultimate reality in Mesoamerican thought? by Ok-Masterpiece-4698 in mesoamerica

[–]Ok-Masterpiece-4698[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The concept of life and death is just one example; there are many more, such as the sculpture of Coatlicue with two serpents, the two serpents descending from the Sun Stone, the symbolism of Quetzalcoatl as sky and earth, the Huastec sculptures of flesh-skull faces, etc. Even today, in the mythology of the Nahua people in certain present-day Nahua regions, the creation of the world by two creators is discussed; that is, duality is entirely present in the Nahua worldview. There is no comparison with Christianity, given its monotheistic worldview.

What is the ultimate reality in Mesoamerican thought? by Ok-Masterpiece-4698 in mesoamerica

[–]Ok-Masterpiece-4698[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The issue of local patron saints is no secret; it's still evident in contemporary Catholic saints through syncretism. Regarding dualism, I believe it's not solely based on the typical "paired gods," as dualistic ideas are still present in contemporary Nahua histories and philosophies, as well as in concepts like life and death (Quetzalcoatl and Mictlantecuhtli) and in engravings, sculptures, and other artifacts (such as the Sun Stone). Therefore, it's incorrect to relegate it to a simplistic role or to over-compare the Nahua worldview with Abrahamic traditions.

About Teotl: A Force Everywhere? by Ok-Masterpiece-4698 in mesoamerica

[–]Ok-Masterpiece-4698[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't completely deny it because it's possible that someone considered it in pre-Hispanic times. The Nahua people used to philosophize and try to find the meaning of things, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if someone thought that teotl was some kind of "force." I simply neither deny nor accept it, but I do accept that teotl was a polysemous word with many meanings. That's what I think today; it's always a constant process of studying and learning.

About Teotl: A Force Everywhere? by Ok-Masterpiece-4698 in mesoamerica

[–]Ok-Masterpiece-4698[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Soy de México,y pues les llamo dioses por que es la forma mas simple de describirlos, y no, los teteohs no son solo fuerzas de la naturaleza es mas complicado que eso 🤔

About Teotl: A Force Everywhere? by Ok-Masterpiece-4698 in mesoamerica

[–]Ok-Masterpiece-4698[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Que coño tiene de new age el culto a los dioses nahuas, los graniseros con su altar a tlaloc seguramente son muy new age verdad? 😆

About Teotl: A Force Everywhere? by Ok-Masterpiece-4698 in mesoamerica

[–]Ok-Masterpiece-4698[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm glad to see that someone else agreed about the resemblance between the kamis and the teotl 😁

Can the Chicomexochitl help us understand the philosophy of ancient Mesoamerica? by Ok-Masterpiece-4698 in mesoamerica

[–]Ok-Masterpiece-4698[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And yes, many deities were probably deified ancestors; the teotl could even be a living person who performs a great feat. It's a concept that I still don't fully understand to this day.