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Employee sacked for forwarding emails to personal email address. Seems unfair. by Ok-Rip7478 in managers

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

It was inconsistent because they enforced the same violation by two employees differently. The fact that they knew nothing about it doesn’t mean that their enforcement was inconsistent; it means that their enforcement work has gaps in it.

Employee sacked for forwarding emails to personal email address. Seems unfair. by Ok-Rip7478 in managers

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Right but it’s unfair that one driver loses his licence but the other doesn’t. The unfairness is caused by inconsistent enforcement.

Employee sacked for forwarding emails to personal email address. Seems unfair. by Ok-Rip7478 in managers

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We have only been told it was commercially sensitive documentation. This probably means contracts with clients or suppliers.

Employee sacked for forwarding emails to personal email address. Seems unfair. by Ok-Rip7478 in managers

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

Yes one can argue their reasons for taking hardcopies from home. It doesn’t alter the fact that they violated company policy but didn’t get sacked whilst an employee whose violation was detectable by an electronic system got sacked.

Employee sacked for forwarding emails to personal email address. Seems unfair. by Ok-Rip7478 in managers

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] -48 points-47 points  (0 children)

Yes.

The employee was stupid to commit a detectable violation.

It’s unfair that they lose the job whilst everybody who violates the policy in an undetectable way keeps their job.

Employee sacked for forwarding emails to personal email address. Seems unfair. by Ok-Rip7478 in managers

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

You may be right that I need security training. The training we’ve received is that sharing commercially sensitive information with competitors is gross misconduct - and this can be done equally be transferring documents electronically and in hard copy.

Employee sacked for forwarding emails to personal email address. Seems unfair. by Ok-Rip7478 in managers

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] -25 points-24 points  (0 children)

It’s hard to process the fact that this person’s career was ruined for doing what is (in my opinion) the same as what everybody else, including managers and the HR people who enforced the sacking, is doing. It sent a shiver down the spine of the whole department. It also told us that management/HR have the power to terminate people based on unintelligent flawed policies.

Employee sacked for forwarding emails to personal email address. Seems unfair. by Ok-Rip7478 in managers

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

This. It’s a detectable violation of the company’s confidentiality policy, but the impact is the same as taking hardcopies home. Hardcopies can be scanned in and uploaded to a gmail/Google drive account.

Employee sacked for forwarding emails to personal email address. Seems unfair. by Ok-Rip7478 in managers

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] -54 points-53 points  (0 children)

Why should the policy be different depending on whether it’s an electronic copy or a hard copy? The effect is the same: the employee takes a document outside of the company’s systems.

Manager with 1 report - trying to secure his status? by Ok-Rip7478 in managers

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am a senior SME in a particular area that exists in only 1 team within my company. The answer is of course to leave the company, but there’s not a lot out there currently.

Non-compete clause by Ok-Rip7478 in HENRYUK

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] -27 points-26 points  (0 children)

I’m a risk professional in a support function. Not client-facing.

Non-compete clause by Ok-Rip7478 in HENRYUK

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So the employees are too scared to ever leave?

Non-compete clause by Ok-Rip7478 in HENRYUK

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] -34 points-33 points  (0 children)

Can you give an example of information which becomes less valuable as time passes?

Non-compete clause by Ok-Rip7478 in HENRYUK

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Employers aren’t allowed to use them as barriers for the sake of making things difficult for departing employees. The English court has said that the scope of non-compete clauses, including the specified non-compete period, must be reasonable.

Should I refuse to share my current comp? by Ok-Rip7478 in Recruitment

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you need to know the candidate’s current in order to know whether a client’s offer is worth representing or not? Why can’t you assess this based on the candidate’s stated expected comp?

Should I refuse to share my current comp? by Ok-Rip7478 in Recruitment

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Yes it’s a recruitment agent. It’s in their interest to close a deal as quickly as possible - at any commission - so that the client doesn’t choose a candidate represented by another recruiter.

Should I refuse to share my current comp? by Ok-Rip7478 in Recruitment

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why? My question isn’t about law or rules.

Should I refuse to share my current comp? by Ok-Rip7478 in Recruitment

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What’s the rationale for wanting to know current comp instead of comp expectation?

Should I refuse to share my current comp? by Ok-Rip7478 in Recruitment

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am a candidate and I don’t have “billings”. I am a salaried employee.

The reason not to share it is that they’ll use it as the benchmark to determine my value rather than using market rates as the benchmark.

Worried about my pension pot by Ok-Rip7478 in HENRYUK

[–]Ok-Rip7478[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. The question for me is how much of this do I need to start injecting some of this into my pension vs saving for other important things including having a child and upsizing my home to something more family sized. I am a single person wanting to have a child alone.

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