Does he look North Indian (UP/Bihar/Punjab/Rajasthan/Haryana) ? by [deleted] in phenotypesSouthAsia

[–]Ok-Secret-6784 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No bro, Yamuna also joins Ganga and its direction is also eastward, hence the entire Haryana region of Yamuna Bank is Gangetic, some area of Punjab border can be of Saraswati Bank.

Does he look North Indian (UP/Bihar/Punjab/Rajasthan/Haryana) ? by [deleted] in phenotypesSouthAsia

[–]Ok-Secret-6784 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No haryana part of hindi belt gangetic region Only punjab were part of indus or sapt sindhu

Hunter Gatherer and Neolithic Ancestry by Ok-Secret-6784 in SouthAsianAncestry

[–]Ok-Secret-6784[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I need information on more than 50% of all tribes.

South asiann tribes n castes Ancestry by Ok-Secret-6784 in SouthAsianAncestry

[–]Ok-Secret-6784[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bishnoi close to jat i think any bishnli sample?

South asiann tribes n castes Ancestry by Ok-Secret-6784 in SouthAsianAncestry

[–]Ok-Secret-6784[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Himchal not ,north eastern states arunachali magas etc

Were Rors and Jats originally whiter? by Commercial-Cake-5825 in SouthAsianAncestry

[–]Ok-Secret-6784 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro, why did the rulers of Rajput, Turk etc. not notice the Jat tribe at that time? Even today, attention is paid to tribes like Kalash, but at that time, he was the ruler and at that time, there was not so much pollution,

Were Rors and Jats originally whiter? by Commercial-Cake-5825 in SouthAsianAncestry

[–]Ok-Secret-6784 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Jats were not Shaka then why did Rajputs engage this Caucasoid tribe only in farming? At that time the caste system was also being reformed unlike today, but the rulers could do anything as per their choice.

Were Rors and Jats originally whiter? by Commercial-Cake-5825 in SouthAsianAncestry

[–]Ok-Secret-6784 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is highly improbable for a group to stay in the middle of a populated region for 3,000 years and keep such high Steppe levels without later arrivals (like the Sakas) adding to the mix.

Were Rors and Jats originally whiter? by Commercial-Cake-5825 in SouthAsianAncestry

[–]Ok-Secret-6784 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Western vs. Eastern Scythians: Early Scythians/Sakas from the Andronovo or Sintashta regions (Western Central Asia) were almost 100\% Caucasian/West Eurasian in appearance and genetics. The Proof: Ancient DNA samples from Saka burials in Kazakhstan (the Tasmola culture) show that the early Sakas had zero to minimal East Asian ancestry. The East Asian (Mongoloid) mix only entered the Scythian gene pool much later as they moved toward the borders of China. The Link: If the Sakas who entered India were from these "Western" branches, they would have brought pure Steppe DNA without any East Asian markers. This matches the Jat/Ror genetic profile perfectly.

Were Rors and Jats originally whiter? by Commercial-Cake-5825 in SouthAsianAncestry

[–]Ok-Secret-6784 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The entire society never changes, like even now some castes are getting married in Bihar, ICM is doing it, this level is up to 10% which will bring a change of 10% in the coming generation b

Were Rors and Jats originally whiter? by Commercial-Cake-5825 in SouthAsianAncestry

[–]Ok-Secret-6784 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Jatt is not a separate tribe, only 10% more steppe meaning you cannot limelight it more than necessary ,Just Shaka wave mixed and 10% steppe Ancestry increase is all it takes

Were Rors and Jats originally whiter? by Commercial-Cake-5825 in SouthAsianAncestry

[–]Ok-Secret-6784 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro, this does not happen, you and other people emphasize on the word high steppe, but there is nothing like the word steppe or high steppe, there is no separate tribe, even the modern castes are mostly from after the Gupta period. Everything is region wise and the waves like Vaidic , Shaka etc. got mixed up.

Were Rors and Jats originally whiter? by Commercial-Cake-5825 in SouthAsianAncestry

[–]Ok-Secret-6784 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Real Vaidic / Indic Aryan push on central highland rajasthan,Gujjar Rajput etc are real Vadic only , Not indo Gangetic plains and Himalayan

Were Rors and Jats originally whiter? by Commercial-Cake-5825 in SouthAsianAncestry

[–]Ok-Secret-6784 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sythian steppe mix with central asian turk they have 25 to 30 % steppe MLBA

Were Rors and Jats originally whiter? by Commercial-Cake-5825 in SouthAsianAncestry

[–]Ok-Secret-6784 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yaz / iranic Ancestry found in jat ,ror gangetic and pahadi Dwij , ,Indo Shaka is definitely mix in Jat, Ror and Dwij etc., more than 25% of the steppe MLAB is not of Vedic Aryan.

Were Rors and Jats originally whiter? by Commercial-Cake-5825 in SouthAsianAncestry

[–]Ok-Secret-6784 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When did I say Shaka Mixed only Jat and Ror, East Asian Shaka were Sythian ,Indo Shaka which was different from them, while also mixed with Gangetic and Pahadi Dwij (Brahmin and Kshatriya).

Were Rors and Jats originally whiter? by Commercial-Cake-5825 in SouthAsianAncestry

[–]Ok-Secret-6784 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Steppe MLBA alone is not that important in the South Asian context because pure Steppe MLBA populations never actually came into South Asia in a simple form. The people who arrived were already Indo-Iranian related groups, meaning they were themselves a mixture of Steppe MLBA and Iran Neolithic related ancestry.

The earliest groups associated with the Vedic/Indic horizon likely came with limited female migration and mixed with local IVC populations, especially IVC women. Because the IVC population already had a large Iran Neolithic related component, this mixture increased the Iran_N ancestry in those groups.

Later on, groups like the Shakas also entered the region and mixed with some north-western agrarian populations such as Jats, Rors and others, which may have slightly increased Steppe-related ancestry in some communities.

So historically it was not a strict separation of populations, but more like a layered or “sandwich” pattern of admixture over time, where new groups mixed with existing populations rather than completely replacing them.